10g Catchup + - Page 5

PEMfish · 01-28-2008, 05:28 PM

-Glass thickness?
-Feel free to post here...

tbittner · 01-28-2008, 06:22 PM

The sump I had made was 40x22x18 and I made it out of 1/4" acrylic. It didn't bow or anything with a euro brace welded on top of it.

1/4" just seemed really fragile BUT it held up great! I kept about 40g in it too.

PEMfish · 01-28-2008, 08:01 PM

Sounds like 1/4th it is then. I'll get some local estimates.
Btw, no bowing is a pretty standard thing. Glass don't bow much - it breaks.

tbittner · 01-28-2008, 08:19 PM

Ahhh, now my comment was about acrylic. I'm not sure what thickness in glass you will need.

PEMfish · 01-28-2008, 08:29 PM

Oh, I might screw the DIY as much as I like doing things like this, it ain't savin me no money and is beginning to be a hassle.
For seemingly no reason my other orders are STILL not here, @#$%^&! So I am pissed tonight.

PEMfish · 02-02-2008, 11:58 AM

Ops, I went to my LFS. I needed RO and carbon. But I saw fish too. So now I have to chose again.
Any 2 or 3 of these;

Kribensis
Leleupi
Marlieri
Ornatus

+pleco.

PEMfish · 02-03-2008, 12:28 PM

I made a model out of yard sticks. Its alot more of a cube that I thought. How ever, I will still need a creative solution for air. I don't like bubble columns and will sleep just inches from it so that rules out the conventional air line to the bottom with a stone. The filter, unless I hear ( hint ) of something good as or better than an Aqua Clear ( AC ) for the same price, filter won't help me. I think, anyway. I could run a pipe from the bottom of the tank all the way up the back ( on the out side ) and have it pour back into the top, the top of the pipe being open. An air column in it during the day. It would also help circulation in the rock work.

PEMfish · 02-04-2008, 10:29 PM

This was derailing for awhile. The ( except from Jack ) only considerable quote would have a shipping price of more than the tank its self.
I looked into glass online and found it to affordable. But shipping. I looked up the company and they are close by. So 50lbs of glass shipped ground ( DHL ) is only $10-20!!!
So the trim/supports/braces...? Ideas?
$120 for glass ( shipped ) and silicone.

PEMfish · 02-06-2008, 01:33 PM

today is a big DIY research day.
So I don't forget ( notes get lost ) I will record notes here.
1/4" glass walls
Bottom = 14 1/4 " x 17 1/4"
Front = 15 " x 24"
Back = 15 " x 24"
2 Sides = 24 " x 17 1/4"
Top Front/Back brace = 14 1/4 " x 2"
Top Sides brace = 17 1/4 " x 2"
emery cloth or silicone carbide sandpaper and then nail polish remover to clean b4 silicone

I think I will use angle iron and JB Weld for top brace ( and maybe bottom one to ), it will be powder coated. I will look into this to see if its plausible.

PEMfish · 02-06-2008, 01:54 PM

Powder coat would be $50 for both. Ideas?

PEMfish · 02-06-2008, 10:04 PM

framerguy · 02-06-2008, 11:02 PM

Are you sure you want angle iron at the top of the tank. Even with coating I would be a little leary of it. Angle iron rusts like crazy.

PEMfish · 02-07-2008, 05:02 PM

No, that idea is out.
New ones?

PEMfish · 02-09-2008, 05:45 PM

I have heard I need 3/8". I have also herd 1/4" will be ok. Will 1/4" be ok?

PEMfish · 02-09-2008, 09:59 PM

Due to some budge ouches the start date has been pushed back. Also, I think I will finish the FW rehab first. Were looking at alittle wile here.
Trim/brace ideas?

01-28-2008, 05:28 PM	#61 (permalink)
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01-28-2008, 06:22 PM	#62 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,043 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + The sump I had made was 40x22x18 and I made it out of 1/4" acrylic. It didn't bow or anything with a euro brace welded on top of it. 1/4" just seemed really fragile BUT it held up great! I kept about 40g in it too. __________________ Terry My chronicle 120g with 300g sump/refug, Outer Orbit HQI/T5HO 24-Hour Light System: : 48" 250W HQI 4x54W Lots of fish. 150g predator tank full of killers. 450g tank is IN the HOUSE!

01-28-2008, 08:01 PM	#63 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,621 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + Sounds like 1/4th it is then. I'll get some local estimates. Btw, no bowing is a pretty standard thing. Glass don't bow much - it breaks. __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

01-28-2008, 08:19 PM	#64 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,043 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + Ahhh, now my comment was about acrylic. I'm not sure what thickness in glass you will need. __________________ Terry My chronicle 120g with 300g sump/refug, Outer Orbit HQI/T5HO 24-Hour Light System: : 48" 250W HQI 4x54W Lots of fish. 150g predator tank full of killers. 450g tank is IN the HOUSE!

01-28-2008, 08:29 PM	#65 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,621 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + Oh, I might screw the DIY as much as I like doing things like this, it ain't savin me no money and is beginning to be a hassle. For seemingly no reason my other orders are STILL not here, @#$%^&! So I am pissed tonight. __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

02-02-2008, 11:58 AM	#66 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,621 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + Ops, I went to my LFS. I needed RO and carbon. But I saw fish too. So now I have to chose again. Any 2 or 3 of these; Kribensis Leleupi Marlieri Ornatus +pleco. __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

02-04-2008, 10:29 PM	#68 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,621 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + This was derailing for awhile. The ( except from Jack ) only considerable quote would have a shipping price of more than the tank its self. I looked into glass online and found it to affordable. But shipping. I looked up the company and they are close by. So 50lbs of glass shipped ground ( DHL ) is only $10-20!!! So the trim/supports/braces...? Ideas? $120 for glass ( shipped ) and silicone. __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

02-06-2008, 01:33 PM	#69 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,621 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + today is a big DIY research day. So I don't forget ( notes get lost ) I will record notes here. 1/4" glass walls Bottom = 14 1/4 " x 17 1/4" Front = 15 " x 24" Back = 15 " x 24" 2 Sides = 24 " x 17 1/4" Top Front/Back brace = 14 1/4 " x 2" Top Sides brace = 17 1/4 " x 2" emery cloth or silicone carbide sandpaper and then nail polish remover to clean b4 silicone I think I will use angle iron and JB Weld for top brace ( and maybe bottom one to ), it will be powder coated. I will look into this to see if its plausible. __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

02-06-2008, 01:54 PM	#70 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,621 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + Powder coat would be $50 for both. Ideas? __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

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02-06-2008, 11:02 PM	#72 (permalink)
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02-09-2008, 05:45 PM	#74 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,621 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + I have heard I need 3/8". I have also herd 1/4" will be ok. Will 1/4" be ok? __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

02-09-2008, 09:59 PM	#75 (permalink)
PEMfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kane Co. Il. Posts: 1,621 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 10g Catchup + Due to some budge ouches the start date has been pushed back. Also, I think I will finish the FW rehab first. Were looking at alittle wile here. Trim/brace ideas? __________________ Paul `EM My cichlid tank plans, or Piranhas...; See how it all came to be; http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...g-catchup.html http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ets-ready.html Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. I'll make the whole damn world jealous if given the money to do so. Don't make mistakes and learn from them, read and learn how to avoid mistakes.

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