Terry's 120g money pit - Page 26

tbittner · 02-15-2008, 08:47 PM

Thanks CMG. I googled for information and there just isn't anything safe that will dissolve cured silicon. It's just going to take a lot of patience and elbow grease. I'm about half way through the silicon under the remaining piece. It's just really nerve wracking.

panmanmatt · 02-15-2008, 08:55 PM

Terry, get yourself a good sharp linoleum knife and run it under the glass. It will slice through the silicone. That's what I did when I needed to replace the top trim on one of my tanks.

tbittner · 02-15-2008, 09:51 PM

TADA!!!

boozeman · 02-15-2008, 09:53 PM

tbittner · 02-15-2008, 10:05 PM

I've never seen a brace like that before. They have 4 1/2" pieces siliconed on to the inside of each side, and then a 2' x 2' piece that is siliconed onto the top of those pieces AND it goes from edge to edge of the tank. There are also 6" pieces that go from edge to edge on both sides of the tank.

The center piece is siliconed onto the top edges of the tank and siliconed on to the surface of the smaller pieces. I had to order another 4 1/2" piece for the other side and the big piece. Total price, including shipping, $300. So I bought a 450g 3/4" thick glass aquarium that is drilled for a closed loop for $800.

I won't count the material for the stand and the lights and the live rock and the livestock and the....

framerguy · 02-15-2008, 10:08 PM

Geez, I miss one day on RS and you fill up two pages! Way to go on the glass, and it looks like you got a new mitre saw out of the deal too!! Here's a victory dance...

tbittner · 02-16-2008, 07:23 AM

I had bought the mitre saw and a table saw a while ago. We are going to be building a garage later this year. We are also going to Woodcrafters to take some lessons on the use of Routers. We would like to make new cabinets for the kitchen, fish tanks, birds, etc.

Working with wood is actually a very relaxing activity and it's a great break from working with computers all day.

Back to the tank project.

For the return connections inside the tank for the closed loop, which would you use?

Eductors?
Champion Lighting & Supply :: Plumbing :: Eductors :: Modular Pump Eductor 1"

Or the 3/4" flare nozzels?
Champion Lighting & Supply :: Plumbing :: Modular Pipe

The only concern I have with the eductors is how do you keep livestock out of them?

Craig Manoukian · 02-16-2008, 07:58 AM

Heating the silicone with a hair dryer makes it much easier.

boozeman · 02-16-2008, 08:05 AM

for the penductors you will need a pressure rated pump for them to work properly

tbittner · 02-16-2008, 08:16 AM

Good point. I wasn't planning on a pressure rated pump. I was going to use a Hammerhead for the closed loop.

Although, if I upgrade to a Manta Ray, and use the Eductors, that would probably provide enough flow for this tank...

hmmmmm.......

pbittner · 02-16-2008, 05:19 PM

Oh my - just reading this - I am exhausted! I am living this!! Well I am trying to help - most of the time we have different mind views - but it will all be beautiful when it is completed - I keep having to remind Terry that this is an evolutionary project - it will take lots and lots of time! The work to make it happen is half the fun - well that is my story and I'm sticking with it!! Thanks to all of you - for giving Terry a "good" sounding board - I know nada when it comes to this stuff - you guys are a tremendous help THANK YOU!!!

Craig Manoukian · 02-16-2008, 05:34 PM

Welcome pbittner!

tbittner · 02-16-2008, 10:01 PM

uh oh, my wife found my home away from home....

shhhhh........

tbittner · 02-16-2008, 10:09 PM

I had received my temperature probe equipment for my controller a couple days ago. I got one of them hooked up. I'm going to hook another one up now so I can get comparision readings. The one I have hooked up agrees with the chiller though so I'm feeling good about that.

I got four probes. One for the fuge, one for the skimmer tub, and one each for the 120 and 150 tanks. I'm not going to hook those up just yet. They will go in the big, replacement tanks for the 120 and 150.

Oh yeah, one other thing. Did you all know that groupers grow REALLY FAST?!?!?!? Geez, this guy is the size of the triggers already! I'll try to get pictures of him but he lives in the rock crevices. He was out swimming around during feeding time tonight though. He is THE most beautiful fish I've seen but he is going to get big quick!

hma · 02-17-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tbittner

I had received my temperature probe equipment for my controller a couple days ago. I got one of them hooked up. I'm going to hook another one up now so I can get comparision readings. The one I have hooked up agrees with the chiller though so I'm feeling good about that.

I got four probes. One for the fuge, one for the skimmer tub, and one each for the 120 and 150 tanks. I'm not going to hook those up just yet. They will go in the big, replacement tanks for the 120 and 150.

Oh yeah, one other thing. Did you all know that groupers grow REALLY FAST?!?!?!? Geez, this guy is the size of the triggers already! I'll try to get pictures of him but he lives in the rock crevices. He was out swimming around during feeding time tonight though. He is THE most beautiful fish I've seen but he is going to get big quick!

Unfortunately, that is right Terry. Cephalopholis miniata grows relatively fast up to about 2/3 of his final size, then the growth stagnates almost always in the aquarium. I could observe this even already and also with fishes of one of my friends it was mostly as described before. The final size of the Cephalopholis miniata was about 30 cm.

02-15-2008, 08:47 PM	#376 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit Thanks CMG. I googled for information and there just isn't anything safe that will dissolve cured silicon. It's just going to take a lot of patience and elbow grease. I'm about half way through the silicon under the remaining piece. It's just really nerve wracking. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-15-2008, 08:55 PM	#377 (permalink)
panmanmatt Acropora Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 1,978 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Terry's 120g money pit Terry, get yourself a good sharp linoleum knife and run it under the glass. It will slice through the silicone. That's what I did when I needed to replace the top trim on one of my tanks. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

02-15-2008, 09:51 PM	#378 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit TADA!!! __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-15-2008, 09:53 PM	#379 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

02-15-2008, 10:05 PM	#380 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit I've never seen a brace like that before. They have 4 1/2" pieces siliconed on to the inside of each side, and then a 2' x 2' piece that is siliconed onto the top of those pieces AND it goes from edge to edge of the tank. There are also 6" pieces that go from edge to edge on both sides of the tank. The center piece is siliconed onto the top edges of the tank and siliconed on to the surface of the smaller pieces. I had to order another 4 1/2" piece for the other side and the big piece. Total price, including shipping, $300. So I bought a 450g 3/4" thick glass aquarium that is drilled for a closed loop for $800. I won't count the material for the stand and the lights and the live rock and the livestock and the.... __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-15-2008, 10:08 PM	#381 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,469 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit Geez, I miss one day on RS and you fill up two pages! Way to go on the glass, and it looks like you got a new mitre saw out of the deal too!! Here's a victory dance... __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 375gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum

02-16-2008, 07:23 AM	#382 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit I had bought the mitre saw and a table saw a while ago. We are going to be building a garage later this year. We are also going to Woodcrafters to take some lessons on the use of Routers. We would like to make new cabinets for the kitchen, fish tanks, birds, etc. Working with wood is actually a very relaxing activity and it's a great break from working with computers all day. Back to the tank project. For the return connections inside the tank for the closed loop, which would you use? Eductors? Champion Lighting & Supply :: Plumbing :: Eductors :: Modular Pump Eductor 1" Or the 3/4" flare nozzels? Champion Lighting & Supply :: Plumbing :: Modular Pipe The only concern I have with the eductors is how do you keep livestock out of them? __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-16-2008, 07:58 AM	#383 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,179 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit Heating the silicone with a hair dryer makes it much easier. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

02-16-2008, 08:05 AM	#384 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit for the penductors you will need a pressure rated pump for them to work properly __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

02-16-2008, 08:16 AM	#385 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit Good point. I wasn't planning on a pressure rated pump. I was going to use a Hammerhead for the closed loop. Although, if I upgrade to a Manta Ray, and use the Eductors, that would probably provide enough flow for this tank... hmmmmm....... __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-16-2008, 05:19 PM	#386 (permalink)
pbittner Midas Blenny Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 124 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Terry's 120g money pit Oh my - just reading this - I am exhausted! I am living this!! Well I am trying to help - most of the time we have different mind views - but it will all be beautiful when it is completed - I keep having to remind Terry that this is an evolutionary project - it will take lots and lots of time! The work to make it happen is half the fun - well that is my story and I'm sticking with it!! Thanks to all of you - for giving Terry a "good" sounding board - I know nada when it comes to this stuff - you guys are a tremendous help THANK YOU!!!

02-16-2008, 05:34 PM	#387 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,179 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit Welcome pbittner! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

02-16-2008, 10:01 PM	#388 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit uh oh, my wife found my home away from home.... shhhhh........ __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-16-2008, 10:09 PM	#389 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Terry's 120g money pit I had received my temperature probe equipment for my controller a couple days ago. I got one of them hooked up. I'm going to hook another one up now so I can get comparision readings. The one I have hooked up agrees with the chiller though so I'm feeling good about that. I got four probes. One for the fuge, one for the skimmer tub, and one each for the 120 and 150 tanks. I'm not going to hook those up just yet. They will go in the big, replacement tanks for the 120 and 150. Oh yeah, one other thing. Did you all know that groupers grow REALLY FAST?!?!?!? Geez, this guy is the size of the triggers already! I'll try to get pictures of him but he lives in the rock crevices. He was out swimming around during feeding time tonight though. He is THE most beautiful fish I've seen but he is going to get big quick! __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

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