BigAl's 10g . . . - Page 6

Craig Manoukian · 01-04-2008, 09:42 AM

Both Big guy!

panmanmatt · 01-04-2008, 09:55 AM

Just buy the cheapest magnetic glass cleaner you can find and glue it to the egg crate.

Dual purpose frag rack, holds the frag and cleans the glass every time you move it.

BigAl07 · 01-04-2008, 09:59 AM

Hey Matt! Check this link out....
Mag-Racks | The Magnetic Coral Frag Rack

If I had some way of "embedding" the magnets I would make these myself!

panmanmatt · 01-04-2008, 10:09 AM

I have seen them before. You can embed the magnets in epoxy and they should be fine. I have no experience working with epoxy or I would attempt it myself.

BigAl07 · 01-04-2008, 10:58 AM

I have TONS of epoxy experience but was worried about it in the tank long term. I'm talking about your regular epoxy (liquid 2-part) not the marine putty we use for rocks. I wonder what the toxicity of it would be.

I have some pretty AWESOME Nimble Nano Magnets that are embedded in acrylic that would also work for this. I contacted the guy who makes Nimble Nano's and asked him about making me some of these. If I had experience with acrylic I would try it this weekend

Jason25 · 01-04-2008, 11:40 AM

AL,

I am sure you probably already know this but just in case you don't, pull the MSDS for any epoxy you might you use and you find out if it will leach or not, some of the epoxies will not exude any chemicals once they fully cure. I am guessing you can access any MSDS through your job but if not PM me and I can get from mine.

BigAl07 · 01-04-2008, 11:53 AM

Thanks Jason. I happen to have the packaging for the "5 Minute Epoxy" I had in mind. I think I'll look that up right now. GREAT idea! Funny how a "computer nerd" has to be reminded such things as this.

and you're EXACTLY right about having MSDS access and worse case EXPERIENCE in this area

Maybe I need more sleep

Thanks bro!!

Techno-Vicki · 01-04-2008, 12:23 PM

Very interesting, but what about just layering the shelves using PVC pipes. You could use some kind of hook to hang some from the top. I have seen both.

BigAl07 · 01-04-2008, 12:36 PM

That's a good idea Vicki. I was looking for a "quick fix" until I can get the pump for my 90g in and get it up and running. Once it's "ready for critters" I'll be moving all the Live Rock and corals into that and then building a modular rack system from Egg-crate and PVC (like you suggested). I may look it over this weekend and see what I can "fashion" to get me through maybe 6-8 weeks (estimated time frame from now to when I can start adding corals to the new tank).

Thanks for you input.

Techno-Vicki · 01-04-2008, 12:42 PM

Remember when you construct it, some of the layers can extend over the tow of others. The mushrooms needing less light can go on the lower levels. I need to work on something along those lines for my tank.

On another topic, I decided to start changing my water in my 24 twice a week after seeing how well your tank is doing. The skimmer I have is worthless and I am tired of looking at my corals suffer. I discussed this with Jack last night. I think I have him understanding my concerns now.

BigAl07 · 01-04-2008, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Techno-Vicki

On another topic, I decided to start changing my water in my 24 twice a week after seeing how well your tank is doing. The skimmer I have is worthless and I am tired of looking at my corals suffer. I discussed this with Jack last night. I think I have him understanding my concerns now.

Hey don't throw Me under the bus with Jack! I need to STAY on his good side... that's My "hook-up" for equipment~ If he's always changing water in your tank because of me and MY ideas he's not going to be very happy with me.

I may start laying out the Egg-Crate for my multi-tiered Frag Rack this weekend. Sounds like a FUN project!!

Techno-Vicki · 01-04-2008, 12:55 PM

I didn't say he would change the water, I just wanted him to understand I need to change the water. Don't worry, I didn't throw you under the bus

BigAl07 · 01-04-2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason25

AL,

I am sure you probably already know this but just in case you don't, pull the MSDS for any epoxy you might you use and you find out if it will leach or not, some of the epoxies will not exude any chemicals once they fully cure. I am guessing you can access any MSDS through your job but if not PM me and I can get from mine.

I don't think it's a GO for this one. Check out
http://www.henkelcamsds.com/pdf/01-81501.pdf

panmanmatt · 01-04-2008, 02:48 PM

What about this stuff? Think it'll work for encasing magnets?

Underwater Glue

BigAl07 · 01-04-2008, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panmanmatt

What about this stuff? Think it'll work for encasing magnets?

Underwater Glue

Sounds like a PLAN to me. Did you happen to read the "Customer Testimonials" on it. Just in case here is what was posted:

Quote:

Used this product and love it! I tried many others but this glue by far worked the best for building my magnetic frag racks. Sealed magnets perfectly. Also found it very safe to be in my reef tank. Didn't notice any negative effects on the hundreds of corals and fish I have.

How perfect!!

01-04-2008, 09:42 AM	#76 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . Both Big guy! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

01-04-2008, 09:55 AM	#77 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,255 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . Just buy the cheapest magnetic glass cleaner you can find and glue it to the egg crate. Dual purpose frag rack, holds the frag and cleans the glass every time you move it. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-04-2008, 09:59 AM	#78 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . Hey Matt! Check this link out.... Mag-Racks \| The Magnetic Coral Frag Rack If I had some way of "embedding" the magnets I would make these myself! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

01-04-2008, 10:09 AM	#79 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,255 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . I have seen them before. You can embed the magnets in epoxy and they should be fine. I have no experience working with epoxy or I would attempt it myself. __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

01-04-2008, 10:58 AM	#80 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . I have TONS of epoxy experience but was worried about it in the tank long term. I'm talking about your regular epoxy (liquid 2-part) not the marine putty we use for rocks. I wonder what the toxicity of it would be. I have some pretty AWESOME Nimble Nano Magnets that are embedded in acrylic that would also work for this. I contacted the guy who makes Nimble Nano's and asked him about making me some of these. If I had experience with acrylic I would try it this weekend __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

01-04-2008, 11:40 AM	#81 (permalink)
Jason25 Elegance coral Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,117 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . AL, I am sure you probably already know this but just in case you don't, pull the MSDS for any epoxy you might you use and you find out if it will leach or not, some of the epoxies will not exude any chemicals once they fully cure. I am guessing you can access any MSDS through your job but if not PM me and I can get from mine.

01-04-2008, 11:53 AM	#82 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . Thanks Jason. I happen to have the packaging for the "5 Minute Epoxy" I had in mind. I think I'll look that up right now. GREAT idea! Funny how a "computer nerd" has to be reminded such things as this. and you're EXACTLY right about having MSDS access and worse case EXPERIENCE in this area Maybe I need more sleep Thanks bro!! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

01-04-2008, 12:23 PM	#83 (permalink)
Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,170 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . Very interesting, but what about just layering the shelves using PVC pipes. You could use some kind of hook to hang some from the top. I have seen both. __________________ "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal." - Henry Ford (1863-1947)

01-04-2008, 12:36 PM	#84 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . That's a good idea Vicki. I was looking for a "quick fix" until I can get the pump for my 90g in and get it up and running. Once it's "ready for critters" I'll be moving all the Live Rock and corals into that and then building a modular rack system from Egg-crate and PVC (like you suggested). I may look it over this weekend and see what I can "fashion" to get me through maybe 6-8 weeks (estimated time frame from now to when I can start adding corals to the new tank). Thanks for you input. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

01-04-2008, 12:42 PM	#85 (permalink)
Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,170 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . Remember when you construct it, some of the layers can extend over the tow of others. The mushrooms needing less light can go on the lower levels. I need to work on something along those lines for my tank. On another topic, I decided to start changing my water in my 24 twice a week after seeing how well your tank is doing. The skimmer I have is worthless and I am tired of looking at my corals suffer. I discussed this with Jack last night. I think I have him understanding my concerns now. __________________ "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal." - Henry Ford (1863-1947)

01-04-2008, 12:55 PM	#87 (permalink)
Techno-Vicki Dancing Mandarins Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sanger, CA (on Kings River) Posts: 1,170 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . I didn't say he would change the water, I just wanted him to understand I need to change the water. Don't worry, I didn't throw you under the bus __________________ "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal." - Henry Ford (1863-1947)

01-04-2008, 02:48 PM	#89 (permalink)
panmanmatt Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waretown, NJ Posts: 2,255 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: BigAl's 10g . . . What about this stuff? Think it'll work for encasing magnets? Underwater Glue __________________ The mind is like a parachute, it only works when opened. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

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