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tbittner · 02-12-2008, 07:26 AM

What salt are you using? Some salt takes 3 days to a week to full disolve.

michael_cb_125 · 02-12-2008, 07:29 AM

Reef Crystals
And I have so much flow I thought it would have been disolved by now.

tbittner · 02-12-2008, 07:32 AM

I'm sure others will speak up but I've read where people have issues with Reef Crystals taking a long time to fully disolve. I use IO and it disolves 100% within an hour.

Are you sure it's not micro bubbles?

michael_cb_125 · 02-12-2008, 07:34 AM

Its not micro bubbles, it just has a slight milky color. Not terrible, but bad enought to bother me.

tbittner · 02-12-2008, 07:38 AM

What is your calcium level? Could it be a calcium snow storm?

michael_cb_125 · 02-12-2008, 07:55 AM

I have been crazy busy, and have not had time to check level and such. Tonite, I should have some time to test water and finish hooking up stuff. Hopefully I will get my Aqua-Controller JR. Hooked up and running.
My Rock will be here next week, and I am still waiting to hear from Jack about my light, It is taking WAY longer than I had expected to get this stupid light. I am going to talk with my dad tonite about "investing" in some live rock.

Question?
I have 120 pounds of marcorock comming next week. How much true LIVE ROCK. ahould I add to this for filtration purposes. Should I add alot to get the bacteria kicking, or can I get just a little and everything will be fine. Also How long will it take for the Dry Rock to cure and have a good bacteria Population? I think I would be nice to just have a little bit of LIVE ROCK to get the process started. Plus wouldnt that reduce any chances of introducing "stuff" that I do not want.
I just want to get some different opionions. THANKS~Michael

bluespotjawfish · 02-12-2008, 07:57 AM

Hi Michael, glad to see you finally have water in this baby!

RC is usually clear within the hour. Could it be the start of a bacteria bloom? Do you have any sand or rocks in there yet?

Test, test, and test again a simulated power outage so you do not flood the sump when the power goes off (because the power will be off when it least convenient for you and your brother too).

michael_cb_125 · 02-12-2008, 08:24 AM

There is nothing in the tank. Just water and salt mix. No sand, rock, additives, anything. That is why I am puzzled.

Octoman · 02-12-2008, 09:19 AM

I think when you mix salt in a large volume of water, it is much easier to notice the stuff that takes a while to dissolve. If you mixed the salt just in a bucket, you probably wouldn't notice the same amount of cloudiness, and when you do a water change it gets diluted so quickly that you never notice it in the display. It took my tank a week to clear up totally when I first added salt to the whole system.

hma · 02-12-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbittner

What salt are you using? Some salt takes 3 days to a week to full disolve.

yepp agree with Terry..... my first salt mixture for my FO has also needed approx. 5 days.

BigAl07 · 02-12-2008, 09:46 AM

I also found that because I was adding salt to COLD water it took FOREVER to dissolve. I added water straight from the RO/DI unit to my tank initially (was VERY cold) and the salt didn't really dissolve a LOT until I got it above 65 degrees. Last night I mixed SW in a 35 can and it dissolved fairly well with the temp at 78 degrees and a MJ900 along with a Mag7 churning the water up.

framerguy · 02-12-2008, 10:49 AM

I think BigAl has a good point there..what's the temp?

kathywithbirds · 02-12-2008, 10:53 AM

Dude, you JUST put water and salt in the tank. Relax, it'll happen.

OK, class, now sit cross legged in front of your tanks, hands on knees with first finger and thumb touching, take a deep breath, let it out, and repeat after me: "uuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmm, ssssssssssllllllllllllllllooooooooooooowwwwwwwww ........ uuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmm ssssssssssllllllllllllllloooooooooooooowwwwwwww .........

michael_cb_125 · 02-12-2008, 10:57 AM

I know, I was just asking. DONT YELL AT ME!!!!

Just Kidding

kathywithbirds · 02-12-2008, 11:00 AM

BTW, where's the pictures?

02-12-2008, 07:26 AM	#901 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 240 What salt are you using? Some salt takes 3 days to a week to full disolve. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-12-2008, 07:29 AM	#902 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,205 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 240 Reef Crystals And I have so much flow I thought it would have been disolved by now. __________________ 240 Gallon MIXED REEF SUPER TANK Well at least thats what I want it to be 240 Gallon Custom Made Starphire Tank Life Reef Custom Sump,Life Reef Skimmer, Little Giant Return, 2 1200gph Koralias, 2 1580 GPH Tunze Turbelles, 1 Vortec, 72" Solaris I series, PM Kalk Reactor, Custom Made Fug, way to many more things to list Jose say hello to your NEW LITTLE FRIEND!!!!!!!!

02-12-2008, 07:32 AM	#903 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 240 I'm sure others will speak up but I've read where people have issues with Reef Crystals taking a long time to fully disolve. I use IO and it disolves 100% within an hour. Are you sure it's not micro bubbles? __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-12-2008, 07:34 AM	#904 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,205 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 240 Its not micro bubbles, it just has a slight milky color. Not terrible, but bad enought to bother me. __________________ 240 Gallon MIXED REEF SUPER TANK Well at least thats what I want it to be 240 Gallon Custom Made Starphire Tank Life Reef Custom Sump,Life Reef Skimmer, Little Giant Return, 2 1200gph Koralias, 2 1580 GPH Tunze Turbelles, 1 Vortec, 72" Solaris I series, PM Kalk Reactor, Custom Made Fug, way to many more things to list Jose say hello to your NEW LITTLE FRIEND!!!!!!!!

02-12-2008, 07:38 AM	#905 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 240 What is your calcium level? Could it be a calcium snow storm? __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-12-2008, 07:55 AM	#906 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,205 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 240 I have been crazy busy, and have not had time to check level and such. Tonite, I should have some time to test water and finish hooking up stuff. Hopefully I will get my Aqua-Controller JR. Hooked up and running. My Rock will be here next week, and I am still waiting to hear from Jack about my light, It is taking WAY longer than I had expected to get this stupid light. I am going to talk with my dad tonite about "investing" in some live rock. Question? I have 120 pounds of marcorock comming next week. How much true LIVE ROCK. ahould I add to this for filtration purposes. Should I add alot to get the bacteria kicking, or can I get just a little and everything will be fine. Also How long will it take for the Dry Rock to cure and have a good bacteria Population? I think I would be nice to just have a little bit of LIVE ROCK to get the process started. Plus wouldnt that reduce any chances of introducing "stuff" that I do not want. I just want to get some different opionions. THANKS~Michael __________________ 240 Gallon MIXED REEF SUPER TANK Well at least thats what I want it to be 240 Gallon Custom Made Starphire Tank Life Reef Custom Sump,Life Reef Skimmer, Little Giant Return, 2 1200gph Koralias, 2 1580 GPH Tunze Turbelles, 1 Vortec, 72" Solaris I series, PM Kalk Reactor, Custom Made Fug, way to many more things to list Jose say hello to your NEW LITTLE FRIEND!!!!!!!!

02-12-2008, 07:57 AM	#907 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,082 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 240 Hi Michael, glad to see you finally have water in this baby! RC is usually clear within the hour. Could it be the start of a bacteria bloom? Do you have any sand or rocks in there yet? Test, test, and test again a simulated power outage so you do not flood the sump when the power goes off (because the power will be off when it least convenient for you and your brother too). __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

02-12-2008, 08:24 AM	#908 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,205 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 240 There is nothing in the tank. Just water and salt mix. No sand, rock, additives, anything. That is why I am puzzled. __________________ 240 Gallon MIXED REEF SUPER TANK Well at least thats what I want it to be 240 Gallon Custom Made Starphire Tank Life Reef Custom Sump,Life Reef Skimmer, Little Giant Return, 2 1200gph Koralias, 2 1580 GPH Tunze Turbelles, 1 Vortec, 72" Solaris I series, PM Kalk Reactor, Custom Made Fug, way to many more things to list Jose say hello to your NEW LITTLE FRIEND!!!!!!!!

02-12-2008, 09:19 AM	#909 (permalink)
Octoman Majano Slayer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,256 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 240 I think when you mix salt in a large volume of water, it is much easier to notice the stuff that takes a while to dissolve. If you mixed the salt just in a bucket, you probably wouldn't notice the same amount of cloudiness, and when you do a water change it gets diluted so quickly that you never notice it in the display. It took my tank a week to clear up totally when I first added salt to the whole system. __________________ Mark My tank thread... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-euphoria.html Tank build... http://55reef.blogspot.com/

02-12-2008, 09:46 AM	#911 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,342 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 240 I also found that because I was adding salt to COLD water it took FOREVER to dissolve. I added water straight from the RO/DI unit to my tank initially (was VERY cold) and the salt didn't really dissolve a LOT until I got it above 65 degrees. Last night I mixed SW in a 35 can and it dissolved fairly well with the temp at 78 degrees and a MJ900 along with a Mag7 churning the water up. __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

02-12-2008, 10:49 AM	#912 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 240 I think BigAl has a good point there..what's the temp? __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

02-12-2008, 10:53 AM	#913 (permalink)
kathywithbirds Social Darwinism victim Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Hood, NJ Posts: 5,695 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 240 Dude, you JUST put water and salt in the tank. Relax, it'll happen. OK, class, now sit cross legged in front of your tanks, hands on knees with first finger and thumb touching, take a deep breath, let it out, and repeat after me: "uuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmm, ssssssssssllllllllllllllllooooooooooooowwwwwwwww ........ uuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmm ssssssssssllllllllllllllloooooooooooooowwwwwwww ......... __________________ (\ /) This is Bunny crying. ( ; ; ) He thinks Brainy and Bunnina . ' ' ...are having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang Start: 163.5 Current: I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale...

02-12-2008, 10:57 AM	#914 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 3,205 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 240 I know, I was just asking. DONT YELL AT ME!!!! Just Kidding __________________ 240 Gallon MIXED REEF SUPER TANK Well at least thats what I want it to be 240 Gallon Custom Made Starphire Tank Life Reef Custom Sump,Life Reef Skimmer, Little Giant Return, 2 1200gph Koralias, 2 1580 GPH Tunze Turbelles, 1 Vortec, 72" Solaris I series, PM Kalk Reactor, Custom Made Fug, way to many more things to list Jose say hello to your NEW LITTLE FRIEND!!!!!!!!

02-12-2008, 11:00 AM	#915 (permalink)
kathywithbirds Social Darwinism victim Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Hood, NJ Posts: 5,695 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 240 BTW, where's the pictures? __________________ (\ /) This is Bunny crying. ( ; ; ) He thinks Brainy and Bunnina . ' ' ...are having an affair. "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." ~Lin Yutang Start: 163.5 Current: I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale, I'm not looking at the scale...

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