Labor of Love. I hope. - Page 6

fishnu · 04-25-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BarbMazz

Dear John (yes, it's one of THOSE again),

I see the Damsel didn't survive the cycle. Shame. I think the tank was way too small for her, too. Another poor Damsel bites the dust. Tsk.

Barb

ps the tank looks great! isn't it fun to finally have water and rocks in there?

I'm too old for damsels anyway, Barb. They run faster than I do. And they mean it.

You mean I was SUPPOSED to put water in this thing? All this time?

fishnu · 04-27-2008, 12:31 AM

OK. Patched and pumping.

I am a little disappointed. I allocated too much space the fuge....Skimmer size was fixed, so I skimped on the baffles and pump space. As a result, I get lots of microbubbles when I run full out. Turning the ball valve on the pump down cuts my flow alot. I think I will need to replan the sump at some point...lower, longer, wider baffles.

In the meantime, I'm ready for mermaid in the tank. Where do I order one of those?

fishnu · 04-27-2008, 01:37 PM

Still got a ton of micro bubbles. I think it's coming from the return lines dumping into the sump. I cut the return pipes too short and they are dropping water the last inch before the water line in the sump. I will need to play with this. Noisy too.

When I broke down my curing tanks and cleaned everything up to place in my sump, I had to replace my sedra3500 on my g2 and I cleaned my skimmer. Now I feel like my skimmer is breaking in again, and I am having a hard time adjusting it.

I will be doing some small rescaping to mask the frame better.

PEMfish · 04-27-2008, 04:43 PM

I like it! but the way the rock and sand don't meet,,, that looks, er, odd. Over all its a nice looking start.

Dentoid · 04-27-2008, 04:50 PM

Looks great John! How are you liking the light?

fishnu · 04-27-2008, 05:34 PM

Lights are great Scott. I'll send you a PM.

I built the rock frame to hold the rocks off the sand for circulation, and then I aquascaped in the clouds. Now I need to re-scape to cover the frame. I don't want to have rock right up to the front of the glass, so I will need to work this through one rock at a time.

John

BarbMazz · 04-27-2008, 05:39 PM

John, I forget how big your sump is, but check out Greg's (framerguy's) chronicle, Awkareum...

he has a great sump muffler design that works really well. It cuts down on bubbles AND noise.

Shoot him a PM if you want to know more about it. I have one in my sump and I'm sold on it.

fishnu · 04-27-2008, 05:43 PM

My sump is 30 x 18 x 12. I used the first 12 for the g2, 3 for baffles, 6 for the pump and 9 for the refugium. I think most of the bubbles are because I cut the drain pipes too short and they are dropping water above the waterline of the sump. I will fix that first, and then play with the skimmer to fine tune it.

It's tough to tune a skimmer when you have no poop to skim.

fishnu · 04-27-2008, 11:17 PM

OK, extended the drain pipes below the waterline of the sump and I still have a ton of bubbles. I assume I am getting some air into the lines somewhere...possibly where I had the leak yesterday. I see alot of bubbles in the sump, but I also see alot coming out of the pressure side.

I am not going to fix this tonight.

WHAT EATS MICROBUBBLES?

sasquatch · 04-27-2008, 11:30 PM

WHAT EATS MICROBUBBLES? socks lol

fishnu · 04-28-2008, 08:13 AM

LOL.

Was considering gas-x.

I read on wetweb last night if you suspect a venturi leak in the pressure side to smear vaseline on the joints and see if it goes away. I don't see a drip when I turn off pumps, but that doesnt mean there isn't a pinhole venturi suction.

Looking at my baffles I am definitely seeing some bubbles swim down the bubble trap, so that is part of the problem; However I think I am seeing more bubbles come out the return pipes than are in the pump chamber.

I will play with vaseline tonight.

No wisecracks Barb.

Frankie · 04-28-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sasquatch

WHAT EATS MICROBUBBLES? socks lol

Exactly! Thats all i use on my over flow. Works like a charm and pulls all the nasties out of the sump.

BarbMazz · 04-28-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fishnu

LOL.

Was considering gas-x.

I read on wetweb last night if you suspect a venturi leak in the pressure side to smear vaseline on the joints and see if it goes away. I don't see a drip when I turn off pumps, but that doesnt mean there isn't a pinhole venturi suction.

Looking at my baffles I am definitely seeing some bubbles swim down the bubble trap, so that is part of the problem; However I think I am seeing more bubbles come out the return pipes than are in the pump chamber.

I will play with vaseline tonight.

No wisecracks Barb.

I promise, no wisecracks!

I had the Dreaded Microbubbles. My problem was the anti-siphon holes in the elbow right behind the locline in the return into the tank. I forget how your return is set up, and I'm too lazy to look.

I put my finger over the anti-siphon holes, and VOILA no bubbles! My fix was to replace the elbow with one with no holes. My sump is huge so it can take the water that would siphon when the power fails. (Yes, I'm bragging about how big my sump is.)

Dentoid · 04-28-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BarbMazz

(Yes, I'm bragging about how big my sump is.)

Size is everything Barb!

fishnu · 04-28-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dentoid

Size is everything Barb!

That lets me out.

04-27-2008, 12:31 AM	#77 (permalink)
fishnu Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 998 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Labor of Love. I hope. OK. Patched and pumping. I am a little disappointed. I allocated too much space the fuge....Skimmer size was fixed, so I skimped on the baffles and pump space. As a result, I get lots of microbubbles when I run full out. Turning the ball valve on the pump down cuts my flow alot. I think I will need to replan the sump at some point...lower, longer, wider baffles. In the meantime, I'm ready for mermaid in the tank. Where do I order one of those? __________________ *I'd rather be good slow than bad fast.* Fishnu, Lord of Fishes Mantis Shrimp Club My Tank Thread The Wisdom of Fishnu - Mistakes on the path. 75 Gal Refurbished and Refinished Dutch Aquariums System Tank drilled with 2 1.5" bulkheads and 30 Gal Sump / Refugium Combo; 90 Lbs Fiji LR; ASM G2; OR6500 Pump; 2 Koralia Nanos; 2 150W HQI 2 96W Actinics; Gamma 25w UV; Kent Maxxima Hi S 60GPD RO/DI. Amphiprion percula (OMEN); Sphaeramia nematoptera (CODY); stenopus hispidus (PIMP THE SHRIMP); Selected hermits and snails. Euphyllia divisa, Euphyllia glabrescens, Pink Acanthastrea (Lord?), Zoas, selected mushrooms (Rhodactis, Actinodiscus, Sarcophyton ...). Looking for mermaid.

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fishnu Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 998 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Labor of Love. I hope. Lights are great Scott. I'll send you a PM. I built the rock frame to hold the rocks off the sand for circulation, and then I aquascaped in the clouds. Now I need to re-scape to cover the frame. I don't want to have rock right up to the front of the glass, so I will need to work this through one rock at a time. John __________________ *I'd rather be good slow than bad fast.* Fishnu, Lord of Fishes Mantis Shrimp Club My Tank Thread The Wisdom of Fishnu - Mistakes on the path. 75 Gal Refurbished and Refinished Dutch Aquariums System Tank drilled with 2 1.5" bulkheads and 30 Gal Sump / Refugium Combo; 90 Lbs Fiji LR; ASM G2; OR6500 Pump; 2 Koralia Nanos; 2 150W HQI 2 96W Actinics; Gamma 25w UV; Kent Maxxima Hi S 60GPD RO/DI. Amphiprion percula (OMEN); Sphaeramia nematoptera (CODY); stenopus hispidus (PIMP THE SHRIMP); Selected hermits and snails. Euphyllia divisa, Euphyllia glabrescens, Pink Acanthastrea (Lord?), Zoas, selected mushrooms (Rhodactis, Actinodiscus, Sarcophyton ...). Looking for mermaid.

04-27-2008, 05:39 PM	#82 (permalink)
BarbMazz Madame Klanganator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Near Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 3,321 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Labor of Love. I hope. John, I forget how big your sump is, but check out Greg's (framerguy's) chronicle, Awkareum... he has a great sump muffler design that works really well. It cuts down on bubbles AND noise. Shoot him a PM if you want to know more about it. I have one in my sump and I'm sold on it. __________________ A Snail's Pace Beginning: an old lady's first reef http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...tml#post366161 ~not knowing how near the truth is we seek it far away~

04-27-2008, 05:43 PM	#83 (permalink)
fishnu Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 998 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Labor of Love. I hope. My sump is 30 x 18 x 12. I used the first 12 for the g2, 3 for baffles, 6 for the pump and 9 for the refugium. I think most of the bubbles are because I cut the drain pipes too short and they are dropping water above the waterline of the sump. I will fix that first, and then play with the skimmer to fine tune it. It's tough to tune a skimmer when you have no poop to skim. __________________ *I'd rather be good slow than bad fast.* Fishnu, Lord of Fishes Mantis Shrimp Club My Tank Thread The Wisdom of Fishnu - Mistakes on the path. 75 Gal Refurbished and Refinished Dutch Aquariums System Tank drilled with 2 1.5" bulkheads and 30 Gal Sump / Refugium Combo; 90 Lbs Fiji LR; ASM G2; OR6500 Pump; 2 Koralia Nanos; 2 150W HQI 2 96W Actinics; Gamma 25w UV; Kent Maxxima Hi S 60GPD RO/DI. Amphiprion percula (OMEN); Sphaeramia nematoptera (CODY); stenopus hispidus (PIMP THE SHRIMP); Selected hermits and snails. Euphyllia divisa, Euphyllia glabrescens, Pink Acanthastrea (Lord?), Zoas, selected mushrooms (Rhodactis, Actinodiscus, Sarcophyton ...). Looking for mermaid. Last edited by fishnu : 04-27-2008 at 11:15 PM.

04-27-2008, 11:17 PM	#84 (permalink)
fishnu Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 998 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Labor of Love. I hope. OK, extended the drain pipes below the waterline of the sump and I still have a ton of bubbles. I assume I am getting some air into the lines somewhere...possibly where I had the leak yesterday. I see alot of bubbles in the sump, but I also see alot coming out of the pressure side. I am not going to fix this tonight. WHAT EATS MICROBUBBLES? __________________ *I'd rather be good slow than bad fast.* Fishnu, Lord of Fishes Mantis Shrimp Club My Tank Thread The Wisdom of Fishnu - Mistakes on the path. 75 Gal Refurbished and Refinished Dutch Aquariums System Tank drilled with 2 1.5" bulkheads and 30 Gal Sump / Refugium Combo; 90 Lbs Fiji LR; ASM G2; OR6500 Pump; 2 Koralia Nanos; 2 150W HQI 2 96W Actinics; Gamma 25w UV; Kent Maxxima Hi S 60GPD RO/DI. Amphiprion percula (OMEN); Sphaeramia nematoptera (CODY); stenopus hispidus (PIMP THE SHRIMP); Selected hermits and snails. Euphyllia divisa, Euphyllia glabrescens, Pink Acanthastrea (Lord?), Zoas, selected mushrooms (Rhodactis, Actinodiscus, Sarcophyton ...). Looking for mermaid.

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04-28-2008, 08:13 AM	#86 (permalink)
fishnu Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 998 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Labor of Love. I hope. LOL. Was considering gas-x. I read on wetweb last night if you suspect a venturi leak in the pressure side to smear vaseline on the joints and see if it goes away. I don't see a drip when I turn off pumps, but that doesnt mean there isn't a pinhole venturi suction. Looking at my baffles I am definitely seeing some bubbles swim down the bubble trap, so that is part of the problem; However I think I am seeing more bubbles come out the return pipes than are in the pump chamber. I will play with vaseline tonight. No wisecracks Barb. __________________ *I'd rather be good slow than bad fast.* Fishnu, Lord of Fishes Mantis Shrimp Club My Tank Thread The Wisdom of Fishnu - Mistakes on the path. 75 Gal Refurbished and Refinished Dutch Aquariums System Tank drilled with 2 1.5" bulkheads and 30 Gal Sump / Refugium Combo; 90 Lbs Fiji LR; ASM G2; OR6500 Pump; 2 Koralia Nanos; 2 150W HQI 2 96W Actinics; Gamma 25w UV; Kent Maxxima Hi S 60GPD RO/DI. Amphiprion percula (OMEN); Sphaeramia nematoptera (CODY); stenopus hispidus (PIMP THE SHRIMP); Selected hermits and snails. Euphyllia divisa, Euphyllia glabrescens, Pink Acanthastrea (Lord?), Zoas, selected mushrooms (Rhodactis, Actinodiscus, Sarcophyton ...). Looking for mermaid.

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