Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment - Page 113

Frankie · 06-14-2008, 11:06 PM

The only thing i read in the requirements was not refugium. I can live with that. Thats why i posted there. i need to know things. I was completely honest in all my water parameters and occupants. I'll see what they come back with.

If I cannot do it then that is fine also. My tank still ROCKS!

tbittner · 06-14-2008, 11:07 PM

YES IT DOES!!! I think that is where I get confused. You obviously have a system that is tuned to perfection, so why mess with it?

Frankie · 06-14-2008, 11:14 PM

There are still a few issues that only a probiotic system can really take care of.

Frankie · 06-15-2008, 09:55 AM

Score! G.Alexander seems to think i can do this. He loaded me up with home work and some info on my system's needs. No response on if i can keep my mangrove though. I can ditch the cheato but the mangrove might end up in its own system if i cannot keep it in this one. I sung songs to make those roots grow to just give it up. Check out the stabilizing roots starting to grow. Their starting to lift the mangrove out of the substrate.

Angel Girl · 06-15-2008, 02:23 PM

good picture

Frankie · 06-15-2008, 02:34 PM

TY Lee

Now go post on your thread! Slacker~

Craig Manoukian · 06-15-2008, 02:35 PM

Good morning Lee! How are you going to spoil your dad today?

tbittner · 06-15-2008, 11:00 PM

That is so cool! Congrats Frankie!

I was telling a guy at work about how some folks grow mangroves in their fuges. He confessed that when he was in the everglades, he picked a couple small sprouts and brought them home with him. He has then in a planter and he said they've tripled in size over the last couple of years. He doesn't know what he is going to do with them. I said I'd give them a shot in my fuge. Problem is, I'm positive he has them in fresh water. Can they be acclimated to saltwater? Based on what I've read, I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but I'm not positive.

JWarren · 06-15-2008, 11:25 PM

Terry, they grow in salt water. I've got thousands down here where I am. They grow on the banks of the Indian River. The banks where they thrive are mostly muddy bottoms, packed with nutrients. There roots are exposed when the tide goes out and are the home to many different animals. Hatchlings find safe haven there in those roots from large preditors.

Frankie · 06-16-2008, 02:21 AM

From my research Terry, acclimating them from fresh to salt is almost impossible. Even ones taken from Fla. shores are hard to acclimate to aquariums. I have tried. The only times i have had success was with pods and growing them out. The big one i have is the first to actually grow this well. I believe it has to do with tank maturity and water quality levels being consistent.

Frankie · 06-18-2008, 11:40 PM

I have been dealing with low Mg lately. I am trying a new product my lfs has so i don't have to mess with Epsom Salt and guessing the right ratio. Its called ions by Seachem. I am dosing it for one week. I'll let you know what the results are. If they are not sufficient i will have to do Randy's concoction again.

JWarren · 06-19-2008, 01:35 AM

What level are you trying to keep it at Frankie?

vdituri · 06-19-2008, 02:08 AM

This is just a shot in the dark, but it could be that pods are more adaptable before they sprout and emit certain enzymes or hormones to grow so that they can process the type of water they are going to grow in.

This is true of alot of organisms plant and animal in nature.
The young are more adaptable to change before reaching maturity.

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Originally Posted by Frankie

From my research Terry, acclimating them from fresh to salt is almost impossible. Even ones taken from Fla. shores are hard to acclimate to aquariums. I have tried. The only times i have had success was with pods and growing them out. The big one i have is the first to actually grow this well. I believe it has to do with tank maturity and water quality levels being consistent.

Frankie · 06-19-2008, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWarren

What level are you trying to keep it at Frankie?

Well right now i would just like to be able to read Mg at all! LOL, My kit doesn't even show it on their count chart. it's my fault. I got caught up in other things and didn't dose for the low Mg in TMPR. I am also considering replacing my Ca++ reactor media with D-D ROWAlith C+ & Dolomite.
DOLOMITE (Calcium Magnesium Carbonate)
Another reefer named Brian Jackson did this with tremendous results. I am going to run it by Boomer though before going for it.

BigAl07 · 06-19-2008, 09:10 AM

So would this "Kill 2 birds with 1 stone" bro?

06-14-2008, 11:06 PM	#1681 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,555 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment The only thing i read in the requirements was not refugium. I can live with that. Thats why i posted there. i need to know things. I was completely honest in all my water parameters and occupants. I'll see what they come back with. If I cannot do it then that is fine also. My tank still ROCKS! __________________ If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

06-14-2008, 11:07 PM	#1682 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment YES IT DOES!!! I think that is where I get confused. You obviously have a system that is tuned to perfection, so why mess with it? __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

06-14-2008, 11:14 PM	#1683 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,555 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment There are still a few issues that only a probiotic system can really take care of. __________________ If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

06-15-2008, 09:55 AM	#1684 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,555 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment Score! G.Alexander seems to think i can do this. He loaded me up with home work and some info on my system's needs. No response on if i can keep my mangrove though. I can ditch the cheato but the mangrove might end up in its own system if i cannot keep it in this one. I sung songs to make those roots grow to just give it up. Check out the stabilizing roots starting to grow. Their starting to lift the mangrove out of the substrate. __________________ If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

06-15-2008, 02:23 PM	#1685 (permalink)
Angel Girl Bryozoan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: south carolina Posts: 53 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment good picture

06-15-2008, 02:34 PM	#1686 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,555 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment TY Lee Now go post on your thread! Slacker~ __________________ If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

06-15-2008, 02:35 PM	#1687 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,352 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment Good morning Lee! How are you going to spoil your dad today? __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

06-15-2008, 11:00 PM	#1688 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment That is so cool! Congrats Frankie! I was telling a guy at work about how some folks grow mangroves in their fuges. He confessed that when he was in the everglades, he picked a couple small sprouts and brought them home with him. He has then in a planter and he said they've tripled in size over the last couple of years. He doesn't know what he is going to do with them. I said I'd give them a shot in my fuge. Problem is, I'm positive he has them in fresh water. Can they be acclimated to saltwater? Based on what I've read, I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but I'm not positive. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

06-15-2008, 11:25 PM	#1689 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment Terry, they grow in salt water. I've got thousands down here where I am. They grow on the banks of the Indian River. The banks where they thrive are mostly muddy bottoms, packed with nutrients. There roots are exposed when the tide goes out and are the home to many different animals. Hatchlings find safe haven there in those roots from large preditors. __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

06-16-2008, 02:21 AM	#1690 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,555 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment From my research Terry, acclimating them from fresh to salt is almost impossible. Even ones taken from Fla. shores are hard to acclimate to aquariums. I have tried. The only times i have had success was with pods and growing them out. The big one i have is the first to actually grow this well. I believe it has to do with tank maturity and water quality levels being consistent. __________________ If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

06-18-2008, 11:40 PM	#1691 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,555 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment I have been dealing with low Mg lately. I am trying a new product my lfs has so i don't have to mess with Epsom Salt and guessing the right ratio. Its called ions by Seachem. I am dosing it for one week. I'll let you know what the results are. If they are not sufficient i will have to do Randy's concoction again. __________________ If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

06-19-2008, 01:35 AM	#1692 (permalink)
JWarren Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,425 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Frankie's 120gal. glass experiment What level are you trying to keep it at Frankie? __________________ John Typhoon RO/DI filter unit. My Saltwater web site. Help build ReefPedia!

06-19-2008, 09:10 AM	#1695 (permalink)
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