BigAl's slow chronicle . . . - Page 10

AQTCJAK · 09-10-2007, 10:44 PM

looking good

ScubaDrew · 09-11-2007, 01:50 PM

I guess my first suggestion should have been to check the size BEFORE testing your might!

Way to get'r done, looks good!

BigAl07 · 09-11-2007, 02:04 PM

I'm calling around today to try and find these parts locally... so far no one seems to understand English or my descriptions.... grrrrrrrrr

Allen

forestal · 09-11-2007, 02:42 PM

lookin good....love that cabinet

BigAl07 · 09-11-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forestal

lookin good....love that cabinet

Thanks. I hope to have some final pictures in the next day or so. Then it's time to move it into it's long term location and have someone come over and start "shoring up" the foundation. Fun Fun Fun!!

Well so far NO ONE carried 3/4 Loc-line here locally. I'm getting ready to call an Industrial Machine supply house because they use loc-line on machining equipment for coolant and such.

Allen

Frankie · 09-11-2007, 10:13 PM

Cabinet looks awesome BigAl!

BigAl07 · 09-11-2007, 10:39 PM

Thanks Frank. Means a lot since your stand was a huge inspiration for this one.

Allen

Dentoid · 09-11-2007, 10:42 PM

Very nice cabinetry Al!

kathywithbirds · 09-12-2007, 01:42 AM

Hey, that cabinet is a wood version of Oceanic's tech tank stands... they open on the side.

And did you say the MONSTER tank is going in the Living Room? I take it you're not moving to Princeton... you're spending your money on the tanks and going for Camden...

BigAl07 · 09-12-2007, 09:02 AM

Thank you both kathy and Scott

Your kind words are appreciated.

I have ran into a situation and I get different advice from everyone I talk to locally here and the problem is that few people locally are running anything like what I want to do.Some people are using Wet/Dry filter systems but no one really uses a refugium/sump set up. In fact, when I mention refugium here locally people are like, " What did he just call Me?"

So here I go...

My stand (main part) is 48" wide. The system came with a 29g sump tank that's 30" long. I want a refugium without a doubt but I also need room for an in-sump skimmer. I am insistent on a refugium because I have seen the benefits of one first hand in my first tank. The I could go with JUST a refugium in the stand but it requires much slower flow than a sump therefore I need something that can handle the total volume of my tank with sufficient flow. Here is what I am thinking...

"T" off the drain line into a small custom built refugium tank that's slightly elevated to allow it to drain (via a bulkhead) into the main drain area of the existing 29g Sump tank along with the majority of the main line from the Display Tank. Is there any OTHER way of doing this? I dont want the skimmer to be IN my fuge and I also dont want to skip the SUMP due to the fuge being a slow flow item.

Ideas? Suggestion? Donations?

forestal · 09-12-2007, 09:09 AM

You might consider doing a seperate refugium in your side cabinet or on top witha slow pump to it from the sump (giving more room for the skimmer) and draining to tank by gravity...or even a hang on the back fuge, similar to cpr one,but you could custom build one fairly easy with acrylic...or lots of companies may make some the right size,
eg:

BEELZEBOB · 09-12-2007, 09:45 AM

i like the large ps one.

thats like a reefin wet dream. all that nitrate reduction, long cyndrical skimmer, and those nice acrylic baffles and tempting lines 00000 my my my! va va Voom!

framerguy · 09-12-2007, 09:58 AM

Awesome cabinet- I worked as a high end cabinet maker for 6 yrs. and I know good work when I see it. A hang on fuge attached to the sump under the tank would be easiest IMO, then you don't have to worry about the flow in the sump, just pump what you want from the sump to the fuge!

BigAl07 · 09-12-2007, 10:23 AM

thanks for your input! I may end up doing that.. a HOB on the sump itself might be a good idea. I need to find one that's HOB that's of sufficient size for my tank. I don't want to come up short in the FUGE department. Or I cold build an elevated platform beside the fuge on the "return end and make a similar design but instead of HOB it could be just sitting on the platform and have a pump pushing water into the fuge and gravity fed back to the return line. So many options.....

What size would be suggested for a FUGE for this 90g setup...

Allen

framerguy · 09-12-2007, 10:34 AM

10% MT volume is the "recommended" size. I've got a 55g on my 75g MT! Gail says I overdo everything though...

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,342 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's slow chronicle . . . I'm calling around today to try and find these parts locally... so far no one seems to understand English or my descriptions.... grrrrrrrrr Allen __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,342 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's slow chronicle . . . Thanks Frank. Means a lot since your stand was a huge inspiration for this one. Allen __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,342 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's slow chronicle . . . Thank you both kathy and Scott Your kind words are appreciated. I have ran into a situation and I get different advice from everyone I talk to locally here and the problem is that few people locally are running anything like what I want to do.Some people are using Wet/Dry filter systems but no one really uses a refugium/sump set up. In fact, when I mention refugium here locally people are like, " What did he just call Me?" So here I go... My stand (main part) is 48" wide. The system came with a 29g sump tank that's 30" long. I want a refugium without a doubt but I also need room for an in-sump skimmer. I am insistent on a refugium because I have seen the benefits of one first hand in my first tank. The I could go with JUST a refugium in the stand but it requires much slower flow than a sump therefore I need something that can handle the total volume of my tank with sufficient flow. Here is what I am thinking... "T" off the drain line into a small custom built refugium tank that's slightly elevated to allow it to drain (via a bulkhead) into the main drain area of the existing 29g Sump tank along with the majority of the main line from the Display Tank. Is there any OTHER way of doing this? I dont want the skimmer to be IN my fuge and I also dont want to skip the SUMP due to the fuge being a slow flow item. Ideas? Suggestion? Donations? __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

09-12-2007, 09:09 AM	#146 (permalink)
forestal Torch coral Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vernon, CT Posts: 582 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's slow chronicle . . . You might consider doing a seperate refugium in your side cabinet or on top witha slow pump to it from the sump (giving more room for the skimmer) and draining to tank by gravity...or even a hang on the back fuge, similar to cpr one,but you could custom build one fairly easy with acrylic...or lots of companies may make some the right size, eg: __________________ Peace, Dan

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framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's slow chronicle . . . Awesome cabinet- I worked as a high end cabinet maker for 6 yrs. and I know good work when I see it. A hang on fuge attached to the sump under the tank would be easiest IMO, then you don't have to worry about the flow in the sump, just pump what you want from the sump to the fuge! __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

09-12-2007, 10:23 AM	#149 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,342 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's slow chronicle . . . thanks for your input! I may end up doing that.. a HOB on the sump itself might be a good idea. I need to find one that's HOB that's of sufficient size for my tank. I don't want to come up short in the FUGE department. Or I cold build an elevated platform beside the fuge on the "return end and make a similar design but instead of HOB it could be just sitting on the platform and have a pump pushing water into the fuge and gravity fed back to the return line. So many options..... What size would be suggested for a FUGE for this 90g setup... Allen __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: BigAl's slow chronicle . . . 10% MT volume is the "recommended" size. I've got a 55g on my 75g MT! Gail says I overdo everything though... __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

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