Akwar'eum - Page 19

vdituri · 03-05-2008, 09:43 PM

Very nice indeed!

framerguy · 03-09-2008, 02:51 PM

As some of you know my turbinaria cup has looked like it's allergic to something lately, the Goniopora has all but expired and the GSP has been hiding a lot. It finally occured to me as I was about to dose the tank with Vodka that these symptoms began to occur about three weeks into using Vodka for nitrate reduction. So last Tuesday I stopped cold turkey. I know you are supposed to gradually reduce it's use but I was so worried about everyone that I just stopped. I expected some nitite readings. Anyway, the GSP perked up immediately, and the Cup is open like it hasn't been in weeks. The Goniopora may not recover but I am nursing it as well as I can. My readings today were as follows:
Alk: 7dKH
PH: 8.12
Temp: 79.3
Sal: 36ppt, 1.027sg
NH3/4: 0
NO2: trace
NO3: 1
Ca: 390
Mg: 1325

I'm pretty happy with those readings. I guess I shan't try Vodka again except to pour it over icecubes. Maybe add a little cranberry juice to it!

Cheers! And don't use Vodka in your tank!

Dentoid · 03-09-2008, 03:06 PM

Great observation Greg! Maybe you were using too much vodka and everything was drunk!

Glad to hear things are getting back to normal in the Akwar'eum.

framerguy · 03-09-2008, 03:17 PM

The odd thing was I was only using 1/5-1/10th the "recommended" dose. It was like a light switched on as I was about to push the plunger in the syringe last Tuesday. A little more time needs to pass to be absolutely sure but I really think that was it.

hma · 03-09-2008, 07:12 PM

You can make much wrong if you dosing vodka. I would like to know, have you measured from the first day 8ml? I am use, like you already know, for a long time vodka. At the moment these are 6ml I us already since many months without slightest loss onder even signs of a problem.

cheeks69 · 03-09-2008, 09:28 PM

As I'm sure you know the Vodka is simply food for bacteria, did you notice any change in your water clarity ? If in fact you overdosed and there was a drastic increase in your aerobic bacterial levels then the first reaction would've been from the fish not the inverts, so how are the fish doing ?

hma · 03-09-2008, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheeks69

As I'm sure you know the Vodka is simply food for bacteria, did you notice any change in your water clarity ? If in fact you overdosed and there was a drastic increase in your aerobic bacterial levels then the first reaction would've been from the fish not the inverts, so how are the fish doing ?

100% agreed

framerguy · 03-09-2008, 09:44 PM

Robert, the fish are doing fine and the clarity hasn't changed that I've noticed. The Cup coral is a little bit hived up tonight so my analysis may have been premature but I don't think so. Sorry Heinz, I was dosing (point).8ml, less than 1ml. And it still may not have been what is wrong, but the coincidence with timing is right on. The GSP has perked up like crazy and the cup polyps are really extended for the first time in a long time. Even Gail was noticing the corals were all extending more today. Again, it may be merely a coincidence. Heinz has used Vodka with GREAT success and I count his tanks among the best on RS. I was very careful and diligent in my dosing so it wasn't a shock thing, I think it was an accumulation thing. It's all speculation at this point but even so, I think I will lay off of the Vodka in the tank and rely on the turf scrubber and water management for nutrient export. I really appreciate the views and inputs, and suggestions.

framerguy · 03-10-2008, 08:07 PM

My frameshop and antique market is inside a renovated textile mill with a restaraunt, furniture store, bowling alley, ballroom, etc. The guy that owns the building asked me if I would like to set up a saltwater system for show that people might pay to see. I asked him what the budget would be and he said he probably could spare a couple thousand for it. ...

I grinned at him and looked at Gail and she said "that won't even buy the aquarium". He asked what it would take and I said "$15 grand might get it going and stocked". ...I think the project is on hold. I don't think anyone would pay to see it, what ya'll think. I might could set up a donation/maintenance jar somewhere and collect a little bit. It would be another attraction to get folks to stop in. Man, wouldn't that be fun setting up a show tank with someone elses money! It could be a school fieldtrip destination!

vdituri · 03-10-2008, 08:29 PM

Tack on another couple grand to the budget and I'll fly out and help.
Be there in a flash.

framerguy · 03-10-2008, 08:34 PM

You got it big guy!

Dentoid · 03-10-2008, 08:48 PM

Sounds like a dream Greg! I guess it would depend on your communities need for this kind of entertainment whether people want to pay to see it.

Craig Manoukian · 03-10-2008, 08:48 PM

Me too, me too!

tbittner · 03-10-2008, 09:03 PM

I'll come down and help too!

framerguy · 03-10-2008, 09:42 PM

I kind of figured I would have no shortage of volunteers to spend Dannys money. Gail and I have been thinking of where to put it so that people can see and enjoy it but not actually touch it to tap on the glass, or throw pennies in it, or spit in it...not that the spit would hurt it, it's just gross, and people would do it. It may get done yet, I'll keep you posted!

03-05-2008, 09:43 PM	#271 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,722 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Very nice indeed! __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

03-09-2008, 02:51 PM	#272 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum As some of you know my turbinaria cup has looked like it's allergic to something lately, the Goniopora has all but expired and the GSP has been hiding a lot. It finally occured to me as I was about to dose the tank with Vodka that these symptoms began to occur about three weeks into using Vodka for nitrate reduction. So last Tuesday I stopped cold turkey. I know you are supposed to gradually reduce it's use but I was so worried about everyone that I just stopped. I expected some nitite readings. Anyway, the GSP perked up immediately, and the Cup is open like it hasn't been in weeks. The Goniopora may not recover but I am nursing it as well as I can. My readings today were as follows: Alk: 7dKH PH: 8.12 Temp: 79.3 Sal: 36ppt, 1.027sg NH3/4: 0 NO2: trace NO3: 1 Ca: 390 Mg: 1325 I'm pretty happy with those readings. I guess I shan't try Vodka again except to pour it over icecubes. Maybe add a little cranberry juice to it! Cheers! And don't use Vodka in your tank! __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

03-09-2008, 03:06 PM	#273 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Akwar'eum Great observation Greg! Maybe you were using too much vodka and everything was drunk! Glad to hear things are getting back to normal in the Akwar'eum. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

03-09-2008, 03:17 PM	#274 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum The odd thing was I was only using 1/5-1/10th the "recommended" dose. It was like a light switched on as I was about to push the plunger in the syringe last Tuesday. A little more time needs to pass to be absolutely sure but I really think that was it. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

03-09-2008, 07:12 PM	#275 (permalink)
hma Acropora Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 1,950 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum You can make much wrong if you dosing vodka. I would like to know, have you measured from the first day 8ml? I am use, like you already know, for a long time vodka. At the moment these are 6ml I us already since many months without slightest loss onder even signs of a problem. __________________ Heinz Luck is a good health and a bad memory (Albert Schweitzer) Balling Method : Balling +Plus Video : Centropyge potteri Tools : Balling Calculator My Chronicle and ReefDreams HM-Aquarium Photo Calendar 2008 "IF SHARKS DIE, THE SEA DIES"

03-09-2008, 09:28 PM	#276 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,617 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Akwar'eum As I'm sure you know the Vodka is simply food for bacteria, did you notice any change in your water clarity ? If in fact you overdosed and there was a drastic increase in your aerobic bacterial levels then the first reaction would've been from the fish not the inverts, so how are the fish doing ? __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

03-09-2008, 09:44 PM	#278 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Robert, the fish are doing fine and the clarity hasn't changed that I've noticed. The Cup coral is a little bit hived up tonight so my analysis may have been premature but I don't think so. Sorry Heinz, I was dosing (point).8ml, less than 1ml. And it still may not have been what is wrong, but the coincidence with timing is right on. The GSP has perked up like crazy and the cup polyps are really extended for the first time in a long time. Even Gail was noticing the corals were all extending more today. Again, it may be merely a coincidence. Heinz has used Vodka with GREAT success and I count his tanks among the best on RS. I was very careful and diligent in my dosing so it wasn't a shock thing, I think it was an accumulation thing. It's all speculation at this point but even so, I think I will lay off of the Vodka in the tank and rely on the turf scrubber and water management for nutrient export. I really appreciate the views and inputs, and suggestions. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

03-10-2008, 08:07 PM	#279 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum My frameshop and antique market is inside a renovated textile mill with a restaraunt, furniture store, bowling alley, ballroom, etc. The guy that owns the building asked me if I would like to set up a saltwater system for show that people might pay to see. I asked him what the budget would be and he said he probably could spare a couple thousand for it. ... I grinned at him and looked at Gail and she said "that won't even buy the aquarium". He asked what it would take and I said "$15 grand might get it going and stocked". ...I think the project is on hold. I don't think anyone would pay to see it, what ya'll think. I might could set up a donation/maintenance jar somewhere and collect a little bit. It would be another attraction to get folks to stop in. Man, wouldn't that be fun setting up a show tank with someone elses money! It could be a school fieldtrip destination! __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

03-10-2008, 08:29 PM	#280 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,722 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Tack on another couple grand to the budget and I'll fly out and help. Be there in a flash. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

03-10-2008, 08:34 PM	#281 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum You got it big guy! __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

03-10-2008, 08:48 PM	#282 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Akwar'eum Sounds like a dream Greg! I guess it would depend on your communities need for this kind of entertainment whether people want to pay to see it. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

03-10-2008, 08:48 PM	#283 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 17,893 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Me too, me too! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

03-10-2008, 09:03 PM	#284 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum I'll come down and help too! __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

03-10-2008, 09:42 PM	#285 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum I kind of figured I would have no shortage of volunteers to spend Dannys money. Gail and I have been thinking of where to put it so that people can see and enjoy it but not actually touch it to tap on the glass, or throw pennies in it, or spit in it...not that the spit would hurt it, it's just gross, and people would do it. It may get done yet, I'll keep you posted! __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

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