Akwar'eum - Page 15

hma · 02-13-2008, 04:39 AM

This is neither a skin problem nor metabolism problem, this looks rather unambiguously like bites off polyps. I was able likewise to observe this in my Lobophytum. My Hippo tang had bitten off from time to time somewhat of the Lobo and because he has, as everybody knows, no teeth, is eaten only the external skin layer with the polyps. Observe your fish for a longer period, because „the malefactor " bites off only now and then a piece.

If these are really bites, you must do nothing else. In the reef this is a completely normal behaviour. If these are, however, no bites, it can also be a limitation of trace elements or amino acids. However, it would surprise me if these were no bites. Sinularia sp. is, actually, the last coral them such problems points. Limitations one sees at first in SPS- then in LPS- and at last in Soft- corals.

framerguy · 02-13-2008, 09:19 AM

Could it be the scribble face rabbitfish that is biting if that is what is happening. That's the only one I would suspect.

hma · 02-13-2008, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by framerguy

Could it be the scribble face rabbitfish that is biting if that is what is happening. That's the only one I would suspect.

yepp .... can absolutely be Greg.

tbittner · 02-13-2008, 10:26 AM

I know my rabbitfish seem to eat anything/everything. Not only are they pretty, they are also at the top of my list for members of an awesome CUC.

framerguy · 02-13-2008, 11:47 AM

I'm afraid that tearing the foot loose so I could dip this guy may have done him in anyway. He looked quite dead this morning but I've thought that before about other corals and they surprised me. Now I wish I had left him alone but Monday Morning Quarterbacking doesn't work and never has.

hma · 02-13-2008, 12:44 PM

With iodine dips I am very careful. I would never apply them with Soft corals, exclusively with SPS corals and also exclusively and only if they have parasites (Acropora, Millepora sp. Etc.). Never with LPS corals. The Sinularia is are very hardy Greg, she will recover again, am sure.

framerguy · 02-13-2008, 02:19 PM

Thanks for the reassurance Heinze. I learn more and more about reefing everyday. I just don't like for my charges to have to suffer for me to learn.

hma · 02-13-2008, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by framerguy

Thanks for the reassurance Heinze. I learn more and more about reefing everyday. I just don't like for my charges to have to suffer for me to learn.

i am too Greg .... , there am sure !

tbittner · 02-13-2008, 06:58 PM

Don't we all?

And that is what makes RS so special. People are willing to share their experiences, whether they work or not. That helps to make all of us better capable of keeping a successful, beautiful reef.

framerguy · 02-13-2008, 10:32 PM

here is tonights photo

The little guy seems to be doing much better. If it turns out it is in fact Scotty the rabbitfish who is nipping...what do I do? Scott, help me out here? I really like this guy, but I don't want him to do that anymore...if it's him...and it probably is dang it

Hmmmm, I wonder if that's where all of my clove polyps have gone. Aww Man!

tbittner · 02-13-2008, 10:42 PM

Do you have a QT tank you can move him to temporarily? Just to see if your corals start to recover?

Dentoid · 02-13-2008, 11:06 PM

Hang in there Greg! Give it some time to recover.

framerguy · 02-13-2008, 11:22 PM

Terry, I do have a 10g tank for QT but I haven't had any critters to add for ages so I'll have to blow the dust off of it, but that's a great idea.

Thanks Scott, I'm hangin' in there and feel much better tonight after I got home and saw improvement.

We have an appointment to look at a house on Monday. I can't wait! It seems perfect. 2Br, 2Ba, Extra room/game room(tank room!), T&G boards for walls (very cabinny), stone fireplace, lot's of light, large lake off the back deck, all for $189K. I hope my hopes aren't dashed! I'll keep ya posted.

Oh yeah, it has 5 acres of land also.

hma · 02-14-2008, 06:17 AM

Do the rabbitfish for approx. 10-14 days in your Qt, feed him there richly and give to him EVERY DAY a fresh salad (lettuce) or spinach or dandelion etc. Nori is also suitable but a disadvantage of Nori is, he will eat this very fast, salad or spinach mostly remains half a day in the tank and, however, he will nibble over and over again in it. In this way my Hippo tang has given up with that bite in my Lobo.
Rabbit fish graze, like tangs also, the whole day algae, find they not enough, they also already bite off once the polyps of corals (in corals are ALGAE = Zooxanthelles).. If they have a substitute which still tastes better, they will fast accept this. If the Rabbit fish comes again to your DT, you further give every day salad etc.

tbittner · 02-14-2008, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by framerguy

Terry, I do have a 10g tank for QT but I haven't had any critters to add for ages so I'll have to blow the dust off of it, but that's a great idea.

Thanks Scott, I'm hangin' in there and feel much better tonight after I got home and saw improvement.

We have an appointment to look at a house on Monday. I can't wait! It seems perfect. 2Br, 2Ba, Extra room/game room(tank room!), T&G boards for walls (very cabinny), stone fireplace, lot's of light, large lake off the back deck, all for $189K. I hope my hopes aren't dashed! I'll keep ya posted.

Oh yeah, it has 5 acres of land also.

The house sounds great! But have you figured out how much it will cost to convert the lake to saltwater?

02-13-2008, 04:39 AM	#211 (permalink)
hma Acropora Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 1,896 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum This is neither a skin problem nor metabolism problem, this looks rather unambiguously like bites off polyps. I was able likewise to observe this in my Lobophytum. My Hippo tang had bitten off from time to time somewhat of the Lobo and because he has, as everybody knows, no teeth, is eaten only the external skin layer with the polyps. Observe your fish for a longer period, because „the malefactor " bites off only now and then a piece. If these are really bites, you must do nothing else. In the reef this is a completely normal behaviour. If these are, however, no bites, it can also be a limitation of trace elements or amino acids. However, it would surprise me if these were no bites. Sinularia sp. is, actually, the last coral them such problems points. Limitations one sees at first in SPS- then in LPS- and at last in Soft- corals. __________________ Heinz Luck is a good health and a bad memory (Albert Schweitzer) Balling Method : Balling +Plus Video : Centropyge potteri Tools : Balling Calculator My Chronicle and ReefDreams HM-Aquarium Photo Calendar 2008 "IF SHARKS DIE, THE SEA DIES"

02-13-2008, 09:19 AM	#212 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Could it be the scribble face rabbitfish that is biting if that is what is happening. That's the only one I would suspect. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

02-13-2008, 10:26 AM	#214 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum I know my rabbitfish seem to eat anything/everything. Not only are they pretty, they are also at the top of my list for members of an awesome CUC. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-13-2008, 11:47 AM	#215 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum I'm afraid that tearing the foot loose so I could dip this guy may have done him in anyway. He looked quite dead this morning but I've thought that before about other corals and they surprised me. Now I wish I had left him alone but Monday Morning Quarterbacking doesn't work and never has. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

02-13-2008, 12:44 PM	#216 (permalink)
hma Acropora Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 1,896 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum With iodine dips I am very careful. I would never apply them with Soft corals, exclusively with SPS corals and also exclusively and only if they have parasites (Acropora, Millepora sp. Etc.). Never with LPS corals. The Sinularia is are very hardy Greg, she will recover again, am sure. __________________ Heinz Luck is a good health and a bad memory (Albert Schweitzer) Balling Method : Balling +Plus Video : Centropyge potteri Tools : Balling Calculator My Chronicle and ReefDreams HM-Aquarium Photo Calendar 2008 "IF SHARKS DIE, THE SEA DIES"

02-13-2008, 02:19 PM	#217 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Thanks for the reassurance Heinze. I learn more and more about reefing everyday. I just don't like for my charges to have to suffer for me to learn. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

02-13-2008, 06:58 PM	#219 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Don't we all? And that is what makes RS so special. People are willing to share their experiences, whether they work or not. That helps to make all of us better capable of keeping a successful, beautiful reef. __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-13-2008, 10:32 PM	#220 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum here is tonights photo The little guy seems to be doing much better. If it turns out it is in fact Scotty the rabbitfish who is nipping...what do I do? Scott, help me out here? I really like this guy, but I don't want him to do that anymore...if it's him...and it probably is dang it Hmmmm, I wonder if that's where all of my clove polyps have gone. Aww Man! __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

02-13-2008, 10:42 PM	#221 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Do you have a QT tank you can move him to temporarily? Just to see if your corals start to recover? __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

02-13-2008, 11:06 PM	#222 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Akwar'eum Hang in there Greg! Give it some time to recover. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

02-13-2008, 11:22 PM	#223 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,266 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Terry, I do have a 10g tank for QT but I haven't had any critters to add for ages so I'll have to blow the dust off of it, but that's a great idea. Thanks Scott, I'm hangin' in there and feel much better tonight after I got home and saw improvement. We have an appointment to look at a house on Monday. I can't wait! It seems perfect. 2Br, 2Ba, Extra room/game room(tank room!), T&G boards for walls (very cabinny), stone fireplace, lot's of light, large lake off the back deck, all for $189K. I hope my hopes aren't dashed! I'll keep ya posted. Oh yeah, it has 5 acres of land also. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination Last edited by framerguy : 02-13-2008 at 11:36 PM. Reason: added acreage

02-14-2008, 06:17 AM	#224 (permalink)
hma Acropora Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 1,896 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Akwar'eum Do the rabbitfish for approx. 10-14 days in your Qt, feed him there richly and give to him EVERY DAY a fresh salad (lettuce) or spinach or dandelion etc. Nori is also suitable but a disadvantage of Nori is, he will eat this very fast, salad or spinach mostly remains half a day in the tank and, however, he will nibble over and over again in it. In this way my Hippo tang has given up with that bite in my Lobo. Rabbit fish graze, like tangs also, the whole day algae, find they not enough, they also already bite off once the polyps of corals (in corals are ALGAE = Zooxanthelles).. If they have a substitute which still tastes better, they will fast accept this. If the Rabbit fish comes again to your DT, you further give every day salad etc. __________________ Heinz Luck is a good health and a bad memory (Albert Schweitzer) Balling Method : Balling +Plus Video : Centropyge potteri Tools : Balling Calculator My Chronicle and ReefDreams HM-Aquarium Photo Calendar 2008 "IF SHARKS DIE, THE SEA DIES"

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