HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank - Page 34

Craig Manoukian · 12-31-2007, 10:55 AM

Great news and great information, thanks Heinz!

Dentoid · 12-31-2007, 10:57 AM

I learn something new everyday! Thanks! I won't be getting any cowfish anytime soon, but it's good information to have.

vdituri · 12-31-2007, 12:18 PM

Sorry to hear about your Toby pufferfish Heinz.
They are a beautiful fish.
Glad to hear everyone else is recovering.

Thanks also for the tip about RO water baths helping to remove toxins.
It makes perfect sense now that you say it, but I would never have thought about it.

bluespotjawfish · 12-31-2007, 01:33 PM

Boy, where have I been? Sorry for your loss! That's what happens when you say you are happy with your tank, you put a curse on it. Glad you were able to save some of your stuff though.

hma · 01-01-2008, 10:08 AM

News of the Hawaiian, he still lives and is back in 115gal. He has proceeded immediately to his old sleeping place and now there he is since hours. I think he got it. In a few more days he will also (hopefully) swim again cheerfully through the aquarium.

Result:
Of poisoning the water have died with my Toby my Kole tang and the small yellow box fish as well as a sea urchin. All the other occupants have survived the misfortune thanks the quick reaction.

And again I have learnt a little bit in addition !

BTW .... A Happy New Year 2008 to all of you

DrHank · 01-01-2008, 10:52 AM

Sorry for your losses Heinz. Hopefully things will return to normal soon.

lcstorc · 01-01-2008, 11:54 AM

Glad to hear the Hawaiian pulled through. It's great that you knew exactly what to do to save him and most of the rest of the tank,
I will miss the box fish though. He was an absolute cutie.

hma · 01-02-2008, 10:56 AM

The Hawaiian is BACK.

Today he has eaten to first times again. He still does a small white spot (not to see on the photo), but this spot will disappear during the next days, with well fortified feed. He swims again in the aquarium and I am glad about that .

Picture from today:

lcstorc · 01-02-2008, 11:17 AM

What wonderful news.
I am very glad he is doing better.

vdituri · 01-02-2008, 09:24 PM

Glad your Hawaiin is doing much better.
I saw one of the LFS with a shipment of Tobys Sunday and thought of you.

I am surprised that the urchin succumbed to the poisoning. Are they considered delicate?

hma · 01-02-2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdituri

Glad your Hawaiin is doing much better.
I saw one of the LFS with a shipment of Tobys Sunday and thought of you.

I am surprised that the urchin succumbed to the poisoning. Are they considered delicate?

The poison of the puffer fish is extremely effective. It is Tetrodotoxine, one of the most dangerous poisons in the nature; it paralyzes the nerve tracts or the sodium connections and is absolutely deadly for all animals with a nervous system, like fish, cancers, sea urchins etc.

bluespotjawfish · 01-02-2008, 11:03 PM

Ouchy! Glad to see the old boy is doing better!

tbittner · 01-02-2008, 11:29 PM

Is this true of ALL puffers? I have a porcupine puffer in my tank...

*gulp*

Techno-Vicki · 01-02-2008, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hma

The metabolism is stimulated by the freshwater bath, the fish can deliver about gills and kidney, taken up poisons / gases. A comparable bath in fresh salted water have not the same results. Moreover, poisons and gases dissolve in fresh water substantially better than in alkaline salted water.

The fish takes up poisons not only by food, but also about its skin / mucous membrane. With a freshwater bath a part of the mucus on the skin is removed and with it also possible taken up poisons.

Heinz, I am so sorry for your losses. I agree, we lose in this hobby, but the gains are always much greater. Thank you for your wisdom.

Vicki

hma · 01-03-2008, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbittner

Is this true of ALL puffers? I have a porcupine puffer in my tank...

*gulp*

Yes Terry ..... sorry, but this is 100% true, also for your porcupine. Should he die once and you do not discover this on time (latest 3 hours), the whole fish trimming can die of the resigning poison. This is the reason why puffers have no natural enemies, they are fatally toxic for each them would eat.

12-31-2007, 10:55 AM	#496 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 17,911 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank Great news and great information, thanks Heinz! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

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Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank I learn something new everyday! Thanks! I won't be getting any cowfish anytime soon, but it's good information to have. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

12-31-2007, 12:18 PM	#498 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,725 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank Sorry to hear about your Toby pufferfish Heinz. They are a beautiful fish. Glad to hear everyone else is recovering. Thanks also for the tip about RO water baths helping to remove toxins. It makes perfect sense now that you say it, but I would never have thought about it. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

12-31-2007, 01:33 PM	#499 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,140 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank Boy, where have I been? Sorry for your loss! That's what happens when you say you are happy with your tank, you put a curse on it. Glad you were able to save some of your stuff though. __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

01-01-2008, 10:08 AM	#500 (permalink)
hma Acropora Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 1,950 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank News of the Hawaiian, he still lives and is back in 115gal. He has proceeded immediately to his old sleeping place and now there he is since hours. I think he got it. In a few more days he will also (hopefully) swim again cheerfully through the aquarium. Result: Of poisoning the water have died with my Toby my Kole tang and the small yellow box fish as well as a sea urchin. All the other occupants have survived the misfortune thanks the quick reaction. And again I have learnt a little bit in addition ! BTW .... A Happy New Year 2008 to all of you __________________ Heinz Luck is a good health and a bad memory (Albert Schweitzer) Balling Method : Balling +Plus Video : Centropyge potteri Tools : Balling Calculator My Chronicle and ReefDreams HM-Aquarium Photo Calendar 2008 "IF SHARKS DIE, THE SEA DIES"

01-01-2008, 10:52 AM	#501 (permalink)
DrHank Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 2,251 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank Sorry for your losses Heinz. Hopefully things will return to normal soon. __________________ Jim Dr Hank's 210 Build: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nks-tanks.html Dr Hank's 155 Bowfront:http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-bowfront.html

01-01-2008, 11:54 AM	#502 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,473 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank Glad to hear the Hawaiian pulled through. It's great that you knew exactly what to do to save him and most of the rest of the tank, I will miss the box fish though. He was an absolute cutie. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

01-02-2008, 10:56 AM	#503 (permalink)
hma Acropora Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 1,950 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank The Hawaiian is BACK. Today he has eaten to first times again. He still does a small white spot (not to see on the photo), but this spot will disappear during the next days, with well fortified feed. He swims again in the aquarium and I am glad about that . Picture from today: __________________ Heinz Luck is a good health and a bad memory (Albert Schweitzer) Balling Method : Balling +Plus Video : Centropyge potteri Tools : Balling Calculator My Chronicle and ReefDreams HM-Aquarium Photo Calendar 2008 "IF SHARKS DIE, THE SEA DIES"

01-02-2008, 11:17 AM	#504 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 18,473 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank What wonderful news. I am very glad he is doing better. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

01-02-2008, 09:24 PM	#505 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,725 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank Glad your Hawaiin is doing much better. I saw one of the LFS with a shipment of Tobys Sunday and thought of you. I am surprised that the urchin succumbed to the poisoning. Are they considered delicate? __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

01-02-2008, 11:03 PM	#507 (permalink)
bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,140 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank Ouchy! Glad to see the old boy is doing better! __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

01-02-2008, 11:29 PM	#508 (permalink)
tbittner Watch this Ma! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 5,562 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: HMA’s 115 gal. Reef Tank Is this true of ALL puffers? I have a porcupine puffer in my tank... gulp __________________ Terry 150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g. 450g reef 300g sump.

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