Billyr98's Real Upgrade! 450g Starphire Custom Reef Tank! - Page 4

Dentoid · 07-25-2007, 09:20 AM

RADICAL!

BigAl07 · 07-25-2007, 09:34 AM

Seriously check on that slab thickness. Frankie's right. If it's a standard residential basement only slab (not designed as a garage) it's going to be 3-4" thick which isn't near enough for that point load.

Also I like to see lumber like that in a simple "cradle/u-support" when it's on a jack like that. I have a slide show here that we show to our field reps of that small plate at the top of the jack warping slightly and allowing the weight to be concentrated on a single member instead of spread across the gang there. Right now's the time to add a small level of protection while it's not "loaded".

I can't WAIT to see that tank in action!

Allen

boozeman · 07-25-2007, 09:37 AM

beautifull !!!!
looks deceptively small in that pic...good luck getting it home

can't wait to see it in person

billyr98 · 07-25-2007, 09:38 AM

its the same slab holding the rest of the house... i have a post holding 2x10s like 3 ft away on the same slab... Oh well- Wish ME LUCK!

BigAl07 · 07-25-2007, 09:40 AM

But when we build these basements we allow for those posts by pouring a "thickend slab" under the spot where the post is at.

Allen

Frankie · 07-25-2007, 03:15 PM

The tank looks awesome billy! Are they shipping it to you or are you picking it up? I am very excited for you. That is a beautiful made tank.

BigAl07 · 07-25-2007, 08:06 PM

I want to come over to Billy's house to play with his aquarium. That's going to be a thing of BEAUTY!!!

Allen

kathywithbirds · 07-28-2007, 11:54 AM

Hey, I'm in Camden County, can I come snorkeling in that when it's up and running? I'll fit, I'm barely 5'1.

mps9506 · 07-28-2007, 04:06 PM

I'm with cheeks I'm really digging the external overflows, I'm surprised more people don't go that route.

cioutlaw · 07-28-2007, 09:10 PM

Very nice tank!

Verifying the concrete thickness does sound like a good idea or You could always spread the load at the floor like you did at the ceiling. I think it would be good insurance.

Frankie · 07-29-2007, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mps9506

I'm with cheeks I'm really digging the external overflows, I'm surprised more people don't go that route.

They are starting to Mike. I see it more and more now on other forums. I just don't think it was an option a few years ago. I didn't even think about it when i built my coast to coast. Then i saw this dude with a coast to coast on the out side and kicked myself!

billyr98 · 07-29-2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kathywithbirds

Hey, I'm in Camden County, can I come snorkeling in that when it's up and running? I'll fit, I'm barely 5'1.

absolutely... come over anytime to see the setup...

AdvanceAquatics · 07-29-2007, 07:31 PM

Wow this is going to deffently a wild tank i cant wait to see it in full effect....And I just noticed your in Cherry Hill, Im in Lumberton....

"HINT HINT: I want to see 2"

jhnrb · 07-31-2007, 07:03 PM

I agree with the others on the support. before you set weight on the supports add a piece of 4 x 6 between the three laminated 2 x's and the support, use simpson HD 2.7 to connect the 4 x 6 to the three 2 x's, at the bottom add a 1/4" steel plate with holes cut in each corner or at least on two sides and anchor with 3/4 swedge's (do not drill through the bottom of slab and if you do drill over size and put althreat in with simpson epoxy. This will give you a great load distribution, relieve the point load a bit on the sq. thin plate at top and bottom of jack. just a thought for you to consider. You can brace with a 2 x 4 now while you make the modification and I do believe you will in great shape for the long term. good luck keep us posted. looks like a fantastic project to follow and I am looking for the build out of your system.

BigAl07 · 07-31-2007, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FFrankie

They are starting to Mike. I see it more and more now on other forums. I just don't think it was an option a few years ago. I didn't even think about it when i built my coast to coast. Then i saw this dude with a coast to coast on the out side and kicked myself!

So how "feasible" is the external overflow on a smaller tank.. say 90/120 size? I REALLY like the look and idea of that and think I need to investigate it more.

Billy keep us posted buddy!!

Allen

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,619 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Billyr98's Real Upgrade! 450g Starphire Custom Reef Tank! Seriously check on that slab thickness. Frankie's right. If it's a standard residential basement only slab (not designed as a garage) it's going to be 3-4" thick which isn't near enough for that point load. Also I like to see lumber like that in a simple "cradle/u-support" when it's on a jack like that. I have a slide show here that we show to our field reps of that small plate at the top of the jack warping slightly and allowing the weight to be concentrated on a single member instead of spread across the gang there. Right now's the time to add a small level of protection while it's not "loaded". I can't WAIT to see that tank in action! Allen __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,619 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Billyr98's Real Upgrade! 450g Starphire Custom Reef Tank! But when we build these basements we allow for those posts by pouring a "thickend slab" under the spot where the post is at. Allen __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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jhnrb Scopas Tang Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Eureka, CALIF. Posts: 477 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Billyr98's Real Upgrade! 450g Starphire Custom Reef Tank! I agree with the others on the support. before you set weight on the supports add a piece of 4 x 6 between the three laminated 2 x's and the support, use simpson HD 2.7 to connect the 4 x 6 to the three 2 x's, at the bottom add a 1/4" steel plate with holes cut in each corner or at least on two sides and anchor with 3/4 swedge's (do not drill through the bottom of slab and if you do drill over size and put althreat in with simpson epoxy. This will give you a great load distribution, relieve the point load a bit on the sq. thin plate at top and bottom of jack. just a thought for you to consider. You can brace with a 2 x 4 now while you make the modification and I do believe you will in great shape for the long term. good luck keep us posted. looks like a fantastic project to follow and I am looking for the build out of your system.

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