Milky film on top of water - Page 2

sasquatch · 12-25-2006, 09:14 PM

Ken?? how long has this been set up and how much crushed coral is there

lcstorc · 12-25-2006, 09:30 PM

If you need something to break the fall of the water use rock. I put rock in the part of the wet/dry that was under water and it not only cut the bubbles and sound but it has turned live and I now regularly add to the reef and replace with more base rock. Adding a light helps it to show growth more quickly but is not necessary. I have lots of worms and feather dusters and pods in there now as well since they have the rock to live in/on.

Ken · 12-25-2006, 09:34 PM

Just got my hands on a Salifert Alkanlinity and Calcium test kits. How about these numbers dKH =32+ and Alkalinity=11.4+ the Calcium is 160ppm. Now what??? Can I raise the calcium pretty fast or does that have to be done slowly. I asume the alkalinity and dKH will decrease with more water changes. I thought it was hard to get it up (so to speak) not down.

cheeks69 · 12-25-2006, 09:38 PM

Wow this tank is way unbalanced, which salt mix are you using ? Have you tested the salt before adding it to the tank ? What are you dosing ? With your alk that high I believe your livestock is in real danger, I'm going to move this thread to the chemistry forum so Boomer can give you better help.

Ken · 12-26-2006, 11:11 AM

Here are a couple other numbers I checked the dKH and alkalinity last night and kKH=32+ Alkalinity+11.42+ also the Calcium is 160ppm. My Ph stays very steady at 8.2-8.3. I assume water changes will bring the dKH and alkalinity down. What will that do to my Ph? Can I bring the Calcium up in a hurry or does it need to come up slow? Will Kent Marine comcentrated Liquid Calcium do it? Yes there are bio balls in the sump which I have been removing alittle at a time.

lcstorc · 12-26-2006, 11:47 AM

You definitely need to get those numbers in line. What does your NSW test at or what salt are you using? If done with a good quality salt water changes will at least head you in the right direction. What do your standard paramaters say? Amm, trites, trates, ph, phos? Maybe there is a key there. Wait you did give the ph. Here is a link to the calculator. You should make several smaller adjustments to get things in line but this tells you how much to add depending on what you are using to get a particular parameter in line.
Here is a good chemistry lesson.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm
and the calculator
http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chem_calc3.html
Hope this helps and/or Boomer joins in.

Ken · 12-26-2006, 12:08 PM

Thanks Lynn this link looks like a realy good place to start.
Ken

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12-25-2006, 09:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,948 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milky film on top of water If you need something to break the fall of the water use rock. I put rock in the part of the wet/dry that was under water and it not only cut the bubbles and sound but it has turned live and I now regularly add to the reef and replace with more base rock. Adding a light helps it to show growth more quickly but is not necessary. I have lots of worms and feather dusters and pods in there now as well since they have the rock to live in/on. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

12-25-2006, 09:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ken Midas Blenny Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 85 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Milky film on top of water Just got my hands on a Salifert Alkanlinity and Calcium test kits. How about these numbers dKH =32+ and Alkalinity=11.4+ the Calcium is 160ppm. Now what??? Can I raise the calcium pretty fast or does that have to be done slowly. I asume the alkalinity and dKH will decrease with more water changes. I thought it was hard to get it up (so to speak) not down.

12-25-2006, 09:38 PM	#19 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,855 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Milky film on top of water Wow this tank is way unbalanced, which salt mix are you using ? Have you tested the salt before adding it to the tank ? What are you dosing ? With your alk that high I believe your livestock is in real danger, I'm going to move this thread to the chemistry forum so Boomer can give you better help. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

12-26-2006, 11:11 AM	#20 (permalink)
Ken Midas Blenny Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 85 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Milky film on top of water Here are a couple other numbers I checked the dKH and alkalinity last night and kKH=32+ Alkalinity+11.42+ also the Calcium is 160ppm. My Ph stays very steady at 8.2-8.3. I assume water changes will bring the dKH and alkalinity down. What will that do to my Ph? Can I bring the Calcium up in a hurry or does it need to come up slow? Will Kent Marine comcentrated Liquid Calcium do it? Yes there are bio balls in the sump which I have been removing alittle at a time.

12-26-2006, 11:47 AM	#21 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,948 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Milky film on top of water You definitely need to get those numbers in line. What does your NSW test at or what salt are you using? If done with a good quality salt water changes will at least head you in the right direction. What do your standard paramaters say? Amm, trites, trates, ph, phos? Maybe there is a key there. Wait you did give the ph. Here is a link to the calculator. You should make several smaller adjustments to get things in line but this tells you how much to add depending on what you are using to get a particular parameter in line. Here is a good chemistry lesson. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm and the calculator http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chem_calc3.html Hope this helps and/or Boomer joins in. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

12-26-2006, 12:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ken Midas Blenny Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 85 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Milky film on top of water Thanks Lynn this link looks like a realy good place to start. Ken

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