Quantcast
Substrate differences

Become a Sponsor Our Sponsors
Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Substrate differences

  1. #1
    Torch coral goma's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    West Melbourne, FL
    Posts
    575

    Substrate differences

    I was just looking at Bigjacko's thread and noticed that he used Caribsea Florida Crushed shell for substrate (relatively large pieces). I used the standard very small particle sand in mine and noticed that I always have pieces of sand flying around my tank. Is there any benefit to using the larger pieces (besides it not flying around the tank) or is it more personal preference?
    Greg and Mellina
    goma = Greg, Olivia, Mellina and Addison
    Red Sea Max 250
    Oceanic 1/6 HP Chiller - Eheim Compact +3000 pump for the chiller. Eshopps RS-75 sump, EuroReef In-Sump Skimmer, Lifereef overflow with a MagDrive 7 return pump. 2 Bulk Reef Supply reactors, one with carbon and one with GFO. ATO from Autotopoff, Overflow silencer, easily made from Hofer Gurgle Buster Silencer

    Greg and Mellina's RSM 250 on Reef Sanctuary
    Greg and Mellina's Saltwater Adventure Blog
    My Flickr

  2. #2
    Star Polyps Bigjacko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    159

    Re: Substrate differences

    I wouldn't have used this if I could start again.

    I have read in a few places that the Florida crushed shell can be a nitrate factory

    It doesn't fly around the tank mind you.

  3. #3
    Torch coral goma's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    West Melbourne, FL
    Posts
    575

    Re: Substrate differences

    Thanks, I wonder if there is something that would provide a happy balance, no nitrates but doesn't fly around...
    Greg and Mellina
    goma = Greg, Olivia, Mellina and Addison
    Red Sea Max 250
    Oceanic 1/6 HP Chiller - Eheim Compact +3000 pump for the chiller. Eshopps RS-75 sump, EuroReef In-Sump Skimmer, Lifereef overflow with a MagDrive 7 return pump. 2 Bulk Reef Supply reactors, one with carbon and one with GFO. ATO from Autotopoff, Overflow silencer, easily made from Hofer Gurgle Buster Silencer

    Greg and Mellina's RSM 250 on Reef Sanctuary
    Greg and Mellina's Saltwater Adventure Blog
    My Flickr

  4. #4
    Sailfin Marlin redsea reefer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    L.A, California
    Posts
    8,509

    Re: Substrate differences

    Carib-sea special grade reef sand is probably what your looking for.

  5. #5
    Scopas Tang TonyV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    San Jose, CA.
    Posts
    494

    Re: Substrate differences

    I recently switched to a larger grade (#3) of sand and wish I did it from the start. My Carib-Sea was too fine and blew all over the place. I have so much flow in my tank (MP20, and two Maxi 1200 circ pumps) it became a daily task to clear the rocks and coral of the sand. My Yellow Coris Wrasse was also causing sand storms with the finer stuff.
    My Setup:
    Red Sea Max 130D, AquaticLife T5 HO 4x24, Vortech MP40w ES, 18 Gallon Sump, BM NAC6 Skimmer, Stealth 150W Heater, Aqua Euro 1/10th HP Chiller

  6. #6
    NaClH2O Addicted Reefmack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Charlotte, NC, USA
    Posts
    29,388

    Re: Substrate differences

    The Red Sea base doesn't fly around either.
    aka Terry
    Excellence in reefkeeping is achieved by mastering the fundamentals, and learning from mistakes.
    34g Red Sea Max 130 (April 07), ~50-60 lbs. live rock. Lighting: Sol Super Blue LED with AI controller. Vortech MP10ES & battery backup, LifeReef Siphon, Sump, SWC Extreme 120 cone skimmer, Tunze Osmolator ATO, ReefKeeper Lite L3 controller

    Reefmack's RSM 130 and...Red Sea Max Owners Club

  7. #7
    Torch coral goma's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    West Melbourne, FL
    Posts
    575

    Re: Substrate differences

    Would it be possible to remove the current sand without destroying the current environment? I'm concerned about harming the current inhabitants. Or would it be better to just put a coarser base on top? How did you guys do it?
    Greg and Mellina
    goma = Greg, Olivia, Mellina and Addison
    Red Sea Max 250
    Oceanic 1/6 HP Chiller - Eheim Compact +3000 pump for the chiller. Eshopps RS-75 sump, EuroReef In-Sump Skimmer, Lifereef overflow with a MagDrive 7 return pump. 2 Bulk Reef Supply reactors, one with carbon and one with GFO. ATO from Autotopoff, Overflow silencer, easily made from Hofer Gurgle Buster Silencer

    Greg and Mellina's RSM 250 on Reef Sanctuary
    Greg and Mellina's Saltwater Adventure Blog
    My Flickr

  8. #8
    Scopas Tang TonyV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    San Jose, CA.
    Posts
    494

    Re: Substrate differences

    Quote Originally Posted by goma View Post
    Would it be possible to remove the current sand without destroying the current environment? I'm concerned about harming the current inhabitants. Or would it be better to just put a coarser base on top? How did you guys do it?
    Yes - heres how I did it...

    During my weekly water changes, I would siphon up small patches of my old substrate and replace it with new substrate. I prefer the look of a white sand bed so I frequently stir. The larger stuff mixes well with the smaller stuff. What became a daily activity of blowing sand off my rocks and coral is now all but eliminated.

    Terry is also correct...the Red Sea stuff does not blow around. I also contribute the finer grades of sand causing the small debris floating around. Ever since my switch, I no longer see as much floating particles in my water. My water clarity is also much better and my SPS are thanking me for it.
    My Setup:
    Red Sea Max 130D, AquaticLife T5 HO 4x24, Vortech MP40w ES, 18 Gallon Sump, BM NAC6 Skimmer, Stealth 150W Heater, Aqua Euro 1/10th HP Chiller

  9. #9
    Torch coral goma's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    West Melbourne, FL
    Posts
    575

    Re: Substrate differences

    Thanks Tony - Am I understanding then that it took you a couple of weeks to completely replace the old substrate?
    Greg and Mellina
    goma = Greg, Olivia, Mellina and Addison
    Red Sea Max 250
    Oceanic 1/6 HP Chiller - Eheim Compact +3000 pump for the chiller. Eshopps RS-75 sump, EuroReef In-Sump Skimmer, Lifereef overflow with a MagDrive 7 return pump. 2 Bulk Reef Supply reactors, one with carbon and one with GFO. ATO from Autotopoff, Overflow silencer, easily made from Hofer Gurgle Buster Silencer

    Greg and Mellina's RSM 250 on Reef Sanctuary
    Greg and Mellina's Saltwater Adventure Blog
    My Flickr

  10. #10
    Golden Moray JimmyJ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Western WA, USA
    Posts
    2,515

    Re: Substrate differences

    Quote Originally Posted by redsea reefer View Post
    Carib-sea special grade reef sand is probably what your looking for.
    This is the same one I use and with my 2 circ pumps and MP10 the only sand I see moving is a few pieces accross the sand bed when the MP10 flow kicks up. Nothing gets picked up off the bed and into the water. Below is a link to exactly what I have.

    CaribSea Dry Aragonite Special Grade Reef Sand
    -Jim

    RSM 130D started 3/18/10, 35#'s (dry) Fiji and Key Largo Rock, 35#'s CaribSea Aragonite Special Grade Reef Sand, Vortech MP10, DIY COD Media Rack

    Jimmy's Tank Thread

    Tank Photos


  11. #11
    Torch coral goma's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    West Melbourne, FL
    Posts
    575

    Re: Substrate differences

    Smartest thing I ever did - Over my last two water changes I siphoned out all of my sea sand. Last night I replaced it all with Nature's Ocean Premium Special Aragonite Reef Sand. What a difference it makes. Even after only 12 hours, when the lights came on today my wife said "Wow, that water is clean"!! There are still some particles flying about, but they will find homes in the larger pieces of sand. The tank looks cleaner and the water 10 times clearer, I just can't get over what a difference it has made.
    Greg and Mellina
    goma = Greg, Olivia, Mellina and Addison
    Red Sea Max 250
    Oceanic 1/6 HP Chiller - Eheim Compact +3000 pump for the chiller. Eshopps RS-75 sump, EuroReef In-Sump Skimmer, Lifereef overflow with a MagDrive 7 return pump. 2 Bulk Reef Supply reactors, one with carbon and one with GFO. ATO from Autotopoff, Overflow silencer, easily made from Hofer Gurgle Buster Silencer

    Greg and Mellina's RSM 250 on Reef Sanctuary
    Greg and Mellina's Saltwater Adventure Blog
    My Flickr

  12. #12
    Reef Shark Dweezil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Posts
    5,629

    Re: Substrate differences

    Pictures?
    ~Tammy
    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" ~ Abraham Lincoln

    WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...Please remember only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you...JESUS CHRIST and the AMERICAN SOLIDER. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

    My Tank Thread

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226