RSM 250 Started 2/12/10 - Page 13

Bobi1956 · 02-18-2010, 10:23 AM

Thanks guys !!! For now I have turned off the skimmer so I can identify the culprit.

Bobi1956 · 02-18-2010, 11:47 AM

Just talked to Pinky at Red Sea and she is sending me the SICCE skimmer pump

goma · 02-18-2010, 12:11 PM

Good for you on getting the Sicce pump, there have been others that called and told they could buy the Sicce pump...

Bobi1956 · 02-18-2010, 08:15 PM

Well I told her that I had just set my system up and after one night running with no heater and no lights and the hood in the full up position I was 82 F. and that I had bought a heater to maintain temperature, not a skimmer pump and that I didn't think I should have to buy what should already be there.

Reefmack · 02-18-2010, 08:36 PM

Good deal Bob!

Dweezil · 02-18-2010, 08:39 PM

I'm glad you said it because I could not agree more. Let us know if it's any better for you.

Bobi1956 · 02-18-2010, 09:24 PM

Started fishless cycle today using pure ammonium chloride and 4 oz One & Only NaH2O-PURE Live Nitrifying Bacteria from Dr. Tim's Aquatics. One drop of the ammonium chloride per gallon of water (60 for me) for 2 meq/l ammonium level. Will test water tomorrow and communicate my levels. This is my first experience with the fishless cycling and precured dry rock.

Reefmack · 02-18-2010, 09:38 PM

I'm really interested in the ammonia cycling results - that would be so much better IMO than the rotting shrimp, and would be much better and quicker than a shrimp to test fully cured rock for the ability to control the nitrogen cycle. It might just take one dose of ammonia to test the rock.

Bobi1956 · 02-18-2010, 09:57 PM

Hey Terry how's it going - here is the protocol I'm following using Dr Tims reagent grade ammonium chloride - thought you might want to read

http://www.drtimsaquatics.com/fishle...FVRf2godVmz_kA

Reefmack · 02-18-2010, 10:17 PM

Good information Bob. I think you started out with dry rock? (don't want to go back looking LOL!) The graph was a nice representation of the cycling process! Looking forward to you getting those little bacteria multiplying onto the rock & substrate and if it will take you the full 25 days or less. I think using just the pure ammonia would be a nice way to quickly test the capabilities of fully cured live rock too.

Bobi1956 · 02-18-2010, 10:20 PM

Yes Key Largo rock from Marco Rocks - Dry

Bobi1956 · 02-18-2010, 10:22 PM

And I agree on the use of this method for testing "live rock" - dose the reagent up to 2 to 3 meq/l and if it's zero the next morning your good to go to begin slowly adding livestock

Nowellsy SNR · 02-19-2010, 03:52 AM

Great news on the Sicce pump buddy hope it works out for you

I sat here it doesnt normally bother me but my skimmer is so noisey arghhhhhhh

Bobi1956 · 02-19-2010, 07:50 AM

Thanks Anthony

Ok after day 1 - Temp 78.3 F., ph 8.2,Ammonia 0.7, nitrite 0. Added 30 drops of ammonium chloride reagent.

Here is pic of tank after day 1 - cleared up pretty good.

Reefmack · 02-19-2010, 07:56 AM

I can see LOL! Great job on epoxying the rock together - nice rock layout!

02-18-2010, 10:23 AM	#181 (permalink)
Bobi1956 Sea Ray Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 1,295 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Thanks guys !!! For now I have turned off the skimmer so I can identify the culprit. __________________ aka Bob Bob's RSM 250 Equipment - RSM 250, Lifereef Nano Overflow, ESHOPPS 75 sump, Phosban 150 Reactor, 1/3 hp drop in chiller, Euro Reef RSM 250 twin pump sump protein skimmer, ATI 39W 12000K Aquablue Special T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Pro Color T5 HO Fluorescent, Red Sea 10,000K and 2 - Red Sea Actinics

02-18-2010, 11:47 AM	#182 (permalink)
Bobi1956 Sea Ray Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 1,295 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Just talked to Pinky at Red Sea and she is sending me the SICCE skimmer pump __________________ aka Bob Bob's RSM 250 Equipment - RSM 250, Lifereef Nano Overflow, ESHOPPS 75 sump, Phosban 150 Reactor, 1/3 hp drop in chiller, Euro Reef RSM 250 twin pump sump protein skimmer, ATI 39W 12000K Aquablue Special T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Pro Color T5 HO Fluorescent, Red Sea 10,000K and 2 - Red Sea Actinics

02-18-2010, 12:11 PM	#183 (permalink)
goma Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: West Melbourne, FL Posts: 275 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Good for you on getting the Sicce pump, there have been others that called and told they could buy the Sicce pump... __________________ *Greg and Mellina* goma = Greg, Olivia, Mellina and Addison Red Sea Max 250] Oceanic 1/6 HP Chiller - Eheim Compact +3000 pump (internal) to run the chiller. Eshopps RS-75 sump, EuroReef In-Sump Skimmer, Lifereef overflow with a MagDrive 7 return pump. Koralia 2, Simplicity UV-Catalytic Reactor, Bulk Reef Supply reactor with GFO. ATO from Autotopoff, Overflow silencer from Hofer Gurgle Buster Silencer Greg and Mellina's RSM 250 on Reef Sanctuary Greg and Mellina's Saltwater Adventure Blog

02-18-2010, 08:15 PM	#184 (permalink)
Bobi1956 Sea Ray Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 1,295 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Well I told her that I had just set my system up and after one night running with no heater and no lights and the hood in the full up position I was 82 F. and that I had bought a heater to maintain temperature, not a skimmer pump and that I didn't think I should have to buy what should already be there. __________________ aka Bob Bob's RSM 250 Equipment - RSM 250, Lifereef Nano Overflow, ESHOPPS 75 sump, Phosban 150 Reactor, 1/3 hp drop in chiller, Euro Reef RSM 250 twin pump sump protein skimmer, ATI 39W 12000K Aquablue Special T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Pro Color T5 HO Fluorescent, Red Sea 10,000K and 2 - Red Sea Actinics

02-18-2010, 08:36 PM	#185 (permalink)
Reefmack NaClH2O Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 15,117 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Good deal Bob! __________________ aka Terry Excellence in reefkeeping is achieved by mastering the fundamentals, and learning from mistakes. No such thing as an evil crab. Only humans have the ability to be evil. 34g Red Sea Max 130 (April 07), ~50-60 lbs. live rock, Aragonite substrate. Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit Pro - 150W 20K Ushio HQI, 2 x 24 Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent by ATI, 2 x 24W Super Actinic T5 HO Fluorescent by UVL, Vortech MP20, Vortech battery backup, LifeReef RSM Siphon, EShopps RS-75 Sump, SWC Extreme 120 cone skimmer, TLF Phosban reactor, Tunze Osmolator ATO, ReefKeeper Lite L3 controller Reefmack's RSM 130 and...Red Sea Max Owners Club and My JBJ 6G

02-18-2010, 08:39 PM	#186 (permalink)
Dweezil Manta Ray Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 3,375 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 I'm glad you said it because I could not agree more. Let us know if it's any better for you. __________________ ~Tammy "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" ~ Abraham Lincoln WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...Please remember only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you...JESUS CHRIST and the AMERICAN SOLIDER. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom My Tank Thread

02-18-2010, 09:24 PM	#187 (permalink)
Bobi1956 Sea Ray Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 1,295 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Started fishless cycle today using pure ammonium chloride and 4 oz One & Only NaH2O-PURE Live Nitrifying Bacteria from Dr. Tim's Aquatics. One drop of the ammonium chloride per gallon of water (60 for me) for 2 meq/l ammonium level. Will test water tomorrow and communicate my levels. This is my first experience with the fishless cycling and precured dry rock. __________________ aka Bob Bob's RSM 250 Equipment - RSM 250, Lifereef Nano Overflow, ESHOPPS 75 sump, Phosban 150 Reactor, 1/3 hp drop in chiller, Euro Reef RSM 250 twin pump sump protein skimmer, ATI 39W 12000K Aquablue Special T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Pro Color T5 HO Fluorescent, Red Sea 10,000K and 2 - Red Sea Actinics

02-18-2010, 09:38 PM	#188 (permalink)
Reefmack NaClH2O Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 15,117 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 I'm really interested in the ammonia cycling results - that would be so much better IMO than the rotting shrimp, and would be much better and quicker than a shrimp to test fully cured rock for the ability to control the nitrogen cycle. It might just take one dose of ammonia to test the rock. __________________ aka Terry Excellence in reefkeeping is achieved by mastering the fundamentals, and learning from mistakes. No such thing as an evil crab. Only humans have the ability to be evil. 34g Red Sea Max 130 (April 07), ~50-60 lbs. live rock, Aragonite substrate. Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit Pro - 150W 20K Ushio HQI, 2 x 24 Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent by ATI, 2 x 24W Super Actinic T5 HO Fluorescent by UVL, Vortech MP20, Vortech battery backup, LifeReef RSM Siphon, EShopps RS-75 Sump, SWC Extreme 120 cone skimmer, TLF Phosban reactor, Tunze Osmolator ATO, ReefKeeper Lite L3 controller Reefmack's RSM 130 and...Red Sea Max Owners Club and My JBJ 6G

02-18-2010, 09:57 PM	#189 (permalink)
Bobi1956 Sea Ray Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 1,295 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Hey Terry how's it going - here is the protocol I'm following using Dr Tims reagent grade ammonium chloride - thought you might want to read http://www.drtimsaquatics.com/fishle...FVRf2godVmz_kA __________________ aka Bob Bob's RSM 250 Equipment - RSM 250, Lifereef Nano Overflow, ESHOPPS 75 sump, Phosban 150 Reactor, 1/3 hp drop in chiller, Euro Reef RSM 250 twin pump sump protein skimmer, ATI 39W 12000K Aquablue Special T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Pro Color T5 HO Fluorescent, Red Sea 10,000K and 2 - Red Sea Actinics

02-18-2010, 10:17 PM	#190 (permalink)
Reefmack NaClH2O Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 15,117 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Good information Bob. I think you started out with dry rock? (don't want to go back looking LOL!) The graph was a nice representation of the cycling process! Looking forward to you getting those little bacteria multiplying onto the rock & substrate and if it will take you the full 25 days or less. I think using just the pure ammonia would be a nice way to quickly test the capabilities of fully cured live rock too. __________________ aka Terry Excellence in reefkeeping is achieved by mastering the fundamentals, and learning from mistakes. No such thing as an evil crab. Only humans have the ability to be evil. 34g Red Sea Max 130 (April 07), ~50-60 lbs. live rock, Aragonite substrate. Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit Pro - 150W 20K Ushio HQI, 2 x 24 Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent by ATI, 2 x 24W Super Actinic T5 HO Fluorescent by UVL, Vortech MP20, Vortech battery backup, LifeReef RSM Siphon, EShopps RS-75 Sump, SWC Extreme 120 cone skimmer, TLF Phosban reactor, Tunze Osmolator ATO, ReefKeeper Lite L3 controller Reefmack's RSM 130 and...Red Sea Max Owners Club and My JBJ 6G

02-18-2010, 10:20 PM	#191 (permalink)
Bobi1956 Sea Ray Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 1,295 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Yes Key Largo rock from Marco Rocks - Dry __________________ aka Bob Bob's RSM 250 Equipment - RSM 250, Lifereef Nano Overflow, ESHOPPS 75 sump, Phosban 150 Reactor, 1/3 hp drop in chiller, Euro Reef RSM 250 twin pump sump protein skimmer, ATI 39W 12000K Aquablue Special T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Pro Color T5 HO Fluorescent, Red Sea 10,000K and 2 - Red Sea Actinics

02-18-2010, 10:22 PM	#192 (permalink)
Bobi1956 Sea Ray Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 1,295 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 And I agree on the use of this method for testing "live rock" - dose the reagent up to 2 to 3 meq/l and if it's zero the next morning your good to go to begin slowly adding livestock __________________ aka Bob Bob's RSM 250 Equipment - RSM 250, Lifereef Nano Overflow, ESHOPPS 75 sump, Phosban 150 Reactor, 1/3 hp drop in chiller, Euro Reef RSM 250 twin pump sump protein skimmer, ATI 39W 12000K Aquablue Special T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Pro Color T5 HO Fluorescent, Red Sea 10,000K and 2 - Red Sea Actinics

02-19-2010, 03:52 AM	#193 (permalink)
Nowellsy SNR Manta Ray Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Preston UK Posts: 3,942 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Great news on the Sicce pump buddy hope it works out for you I sat here it doesnt normally bother me but my skimmer is so noisey arghhhhhhh __________________ Anthony Red Sea Max 250 Started 9/5/09 24kg Indonesian Live Rock, 10kg Figi Live Rock (EQUIPMENT) RSM250 Euro Reef Nano Skimmer, D-D DC300 Chiller with external NewJet NJ2300 Multi Pump.....2 Vortech MP-40w's with upgraded EcoSmart Drivers, Rena SmartHeater 300w, 4 ATI Aquablue T5's, 2 ATI Specialblue T5's My Tank threadTake a look have a Nosey

02-19-2010, 07:50 AM	#194 (permalink)
Bobi1956 Sea Ray Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 1,295 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 Thanks Anthony Ok after day 1 - Temp 78.3 F., ph 8.2,Ammonia 0.7, nitrite 0. Added 30 drops of ammonium chloride reagent. Here is pic of tank after day 1 - cleared up pretty good. __________________ aka Bob Bob's RSM 250 Equipment - RSM 250, Lifereef Nano Overflow, ESHOPPS 75 sump, Phosban 150 Reactor, 1/3 hp drop in chiller, Euro Reef RSM 250 twin pump sump protein skimmer, ATI 39W 12000K Aquablue Special T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent, ATI 39W Pro Color T5 HO Fluorescent, Red Sea 10,000K and 2 - Red Sea Actinics

02-19-2010, 07:56 AM	#195 (permalink)
Reefmack NaClH2O Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 15,117 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Awaiting my New RSM 250 I can see LOL! Great job on epoxying the rock together - nice rock layout! __________________ aka Terry Excellence in reefkeeping is achieved by mastering the fundamentals, and learning from mistakes. No such thing as an evil crab. Only humans have the ability to be evil. 34g Red Sea Max 130 (April 07), ~50-60 lbs. live rock, Aragonite substrate. Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit Pro - 150W 20K Ushio HQI, 2 x 24 Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent by ATI, 2 x 24W Super Actinic T5 HO Fluorescent by UVL, Vortech MP20, Vortech battery backup, LifeReef RSM Siphon, EShopps RS-75 Sump, SWC Extreme 120 cone skimmer, TLF Phosban reactor, Tunze Osmolator ATO, ReefKeeper Lite L3 controller Reefmack's RSM 130 and...Red Sea Max Owners Club and My JBJ 6G

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