Micro bubbles revisited

twistedReefer · 11-06-2009, 08:52 PM

Hi , I just set up my 130d with the media rack and tunze 9002 although I havent turned on the skimmer yet I have noticed that i'm getting periodic
micro bubbles- My thoughts on this has to do with their design -having the pumps near the surface causes the micro bubbles, the very loose fitting of the intack cover with tube can suck in air- If you turn off 1 of the pumps the water level rises to about the top of the viewing window no bubbles, with 2 on it pulls the level down to just above the bottom of the pump. still to near the surface and can cause air intake. I adjusted the water level in DT to where its sitting in the hinge tray and its a little to high for my liking.
I'm going to watch this for a while and if it continues my solution is to replace the pumps with maxi jet utility pump that sits on the bottom and using 2 small ones and plumbing it up with an elbow or using 1 294 gph and using a "y" connector and elbows out the holes.
anybody tried this method I'm curious to see if it worked for them.

Manateekisser · 11-06-2009, 09:02 PM

I believe most people are attaching 5/8 ID hosing to the bottom of the intakes and zip-tying the plastic inlet to the pump. I've done this myself and I don't have any microbubbles.

ausreef · 11-06-2009, 10:48 PM

or the 2x eheim compact 600 mod,not a single bubble after i did this

TonyV · 11-07-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ausreef

or the 2x eheim compact 600 mod,not a single bubble after i did this

nanoreefing4fun · 11-07-2009, 07:12 AM

high water levels and great flow, have been my keys to sucess related to micro-bubbles

zero micro-bubbles from the start on my 130D

twistedReefer · 11-07-2009, 07:59 AM

Glenn ,
how high are you running it in the dt, up to or above the cover hindge lttle platform there.
Thanks,

nanoreefing4fun · 11-07-2009, 11:39 AM

Rick - in the main tank, I have my water up to just - almost touching, the tray that hold the lid hinges... the ones with drain holes in them.

twistedReefer · 11-07-2009, 02:15 PM

Glenn,
Thats what I thought , thanks- with the tank at that level how high is the back sump area, what notch on the viewing window 7,8 or 9,?
are your pumps bottom underwater?
sorry for all the questions I'm trying to get at the right level.
Thanks,

nanoreefing4fun · 11-07-2009, 02:39 PM

I don't see any numbers..., but I try to keep it at the top line on the water level window... evaporation will drop it down one, before I manually top-off

my circulation pumps are about 3/4 under water... maybe a tad less...

never mind answering any question, glad to try to help

nanoreefing4fun · 11-07-2009, 02:47 PM

Check out the pics in this thread... post #338 - read up & down about this a bit...

The RSM Adventure

Another "key" 130D re-positioned the surface skimmer

11-06-2009, 08:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
twistedReefer Bryozoan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Long Island, New yawk Posts: 52 View Gallery Karma Komment	Micro bubbles revisited Hi , I just set up my 130d with the media rack and tunze 9002 although I havent turned on the skimmer yet I have noticed that i'm getting periodic micro bubbles- My thoughts on this has to do with their design -having the pumps near the surface causes the micro bubbles, the very loose fitting of the intack cover with tube can suck in air- If you turn off 1 of the pumps the water level rises to about the top of the viewing window no bubbles, with 2 on it pulls the level down to just above the bottom of the pump. still to near the surface and can cause air intake. I adjusted the water level in DT to where its sitting in the hinge tray and its a little to high for my liking. I'm going to watch this for a while and if it continues my solution is to replace the pumps with maxi jet utility pump that sits on the bottom and using 2 small ones and plumbing it up with an elbow or using 1 294 gph and using a "y" connector and elbows out the holes. anybody tried this method I'm curious to see if it worked for them. __________________ Rick

11-06-2009, 09:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Manateekisser Tubeworm Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 25 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Micro bubbles revisited I believe most people are attaching 5/8 ID hosing to the bottom of the intakes and zip-tying the plastic inlet to the pump. I've done this myself and I don't have any microbubbles.

11-06-2009, 10:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
ausreef Tubeworm Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney,Australia Posts: 30 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Micro bubbles revisited or the 2x eheim compact 600 mod,not a single bubble after i did this

11-07-2009, 07:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,552 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Micro bubbles revisited high water levels and great flow, have been my keys to sucess related to micro-bubbles zero micro-bubbles from the start on my 130D __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

11-07-2009, 07:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
twistedReefer Bryozoan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Long Island, New yawk Posts: 52 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Micro bubbles revisited Glenn , how high are you running it in the dt, up to or above the cover hindge lttle platform there. Thanks, __________________ Rick

11-07-2009, 11:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,552 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Micro bubbles revisited Rick - in the main tank, I have my water up to just - almost touching, the tray that hold the lid hinges... the ones with drain holes in them. __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

11-07-2009, 02:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
twistedReefer Bryozoan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Long Island, New yawk Posts: 52 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Micro bubbles revisited Glenn, Thats what I thought , thanks- with the tank at that level how high is the back sump area, what notch on the viewing window 7,8 or 9,? are your pumps bottom underwater? sorry for all the questions I'm trying to get at the right level. Thanks, __________________ Rick

11-07-2009, 02:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,552 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Micro bubbles revisited I don't see any numbers..., but I try to keep it at the top line on the water level window... evaporation will drop it down one, before I manually top-off my circulation pumps are about 3/4 under water... maybe a tad less... never mind answering any question, glad to try to help __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

11-07-2009, 02:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,552 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Micro bubbles revisited Check out the pics in this thread... post #338 - read up & down about this a bit... The RSM Adventure Another "key" 130D re-positioned the surface skimmer __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

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