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Old 11-01-2009, 04:19 PM   #1171 (permalink)
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Re: RedSea Max/ Euroreef Skimmer Page

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Robbert - would removing one pump on the original 2 pump model, and sealing that opening, do any good without the foam adjuster plate?
It would not work w/o the foam adjuster plate because one pump would not produce enough pressure to drive the foam up high enough.You would have to drop the skimmer body low enough to where the current plate that holds the skimmer in place, would no longer function as intended.

For the one pump skimmer (I am testing) that would fit under the hood on the other hand, I would have to keep the skimmer bottom open and modify the holding plate to allow the skimmer body to sit about 2-3' lower then current design and still have the thumbscrews accessible for the user to adjust the foam level.

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Old 11-01-2009, 04:25 PM   #1172 (permalink)
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Re: RedSea Max/ Euroreef Skimmer Page

Robbert - Thanks for the explanation and education!
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:41 PM   #1173 (permalink)
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Ok cool, but I got rid of my RSM skimmer due to bubbles being produced at the outlet, "it skimmed" I had no algae problems or the such so why buy a skimmer that has the same problem? I have read the posts here and have even recomended your product still though with 20 years experience I would think the bubble problem could be solved. I do think RS could make thier product better and due to it being what it is I will not buy another and have a hard time telling others to do so.
Even with 1000 years of experience I could not change the laws of Physics with regards to pressure, flow and gravity all of which affect bubble behavior in confined bodies.
Making the skimmer bodies very long, moving the pump up higher will help in reducing and maybe eliminating those stinky pin prick sized bubbles from escaping...if there is enough room available. In our larger skimmers which fit in large sumps, it is a lot easier prevent bubbles from escaping.

That is why I said that correct tank design is a lot easier to do because there is a lot more room available to include proper baffling behind the false wall.

I very much appreciate your support of our skimmers and truly hope for some break trough design in efficient nano skimmers where escaping bubbles are a thing of the past...I never quit trying to find a way because I am stubborn but must admit this is a tough one to beat so far.

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Old 11-01-2009, 04:45 PM   #1174 (permalink)
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Re: RedSea Max/ Euroreef Skimmer Page

C'mon Robbert - surely you can defy the laws of physics!
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:41 PM   #1175 (permalink)
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Re: RedSea Max/ Euroreef Skimmer Page

Robbert is that why the stock skimmer skims less, I am running the stock skimmer with zero micro-bubbles, but many say... it could skim much better than it does...
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:17 AM   #1176 (permalink)
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Robbert is that why the stock skimmer skims less, I am running the stock skimmer with zero micro-bubbles, but many say... it could skim much better than it does...
Let's review:

1. Any halfway decent skimmer will produce skim mate
2. A very efficient skimmer will produce more skim mate during the same period of time because it produces more foam and most importantly, much smaller bubbles. Unfortunately, depending on organic levels and tank design, those same bubbles may or may not be returned to the tank.
3. Since in your case the stock skimmer runs with zero micro-bubbles, you could conclude that it may not be running at top skimming ability because it is not producing pin prick sized bubbles, less foam or both.
4. The stock skimmer pump/impeller/venturi combination is not designed for optimal skimming ability which is true for most stock skimmers I have seen.
It requires a special pump, impeller and tuned venturi to produce a very efficient skimmer...I believe we have accomplished that task after months and months of testing.

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Old 11-03-2009, 11:41 AM   #1177 (permalink)
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Re: RedSea Max/ Euroreef Skimmer Page

Thanks for the reply...
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:46 AM   #1178 (permalink)
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Re: RedSea Max/ Euroreef Skimmer Page

Do the skimmerpumps work in intervals or have I plugged it in wrong?
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:02 PM   #1179 (permalink)
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Re: RedSea Max/ Euroreef Skimmer Page

Good Morning Teggner,
Sounds plugged in wrong. The skimmer pumps need to run continuously to keep the water level up in the body. Are you in the United States?

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Old 11-06-2009, 12:22 PM   #1180 (permalink)
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Good Morning Teggner,
Sounds plugged in wrong. The skimmer pumps need to run continuously to keep the water level up in the body. Are you in the United States?

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Damn.. I'm from sweden, I plugged in some adapters to make it work maybe they are the problem?
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:55 PM   #1181 (permalink)
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Re: RedSea Max/ Euroreef Skimmer Page

Im a little confused??? FedEx just drop off my ER Skimmer and it has only one pump. I notice a few posts up some talk about a design change since I placed my order. Not sure if I should send it back or what? How does this new skimmer perform? Anybody familiar with the new design? Does it perform as well as the old design or is it better? Is the ER still going to perform better than the Tuzne 9002 I'm replacing now that it has only one pump?
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:31 PM   #1182 (permalink)
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Re: RedSea Max/ Euroreef Skimmer Page

pwrmac2... look at post 1159 a page back Riobbert talks about changing the 130 to a single pump. Hope this helps.
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Old 11-07-2009, 09:17 PM   #1183 (permalink)
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pwrmac2... look at post 1159 a page back Riobbert talks about changing the 130 to a single pump. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info. I put the skimmer in the tank and its up and running. So far so good.

Nice tank by the way!
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teggner,
Did you make any progress? Just curious as to whats going on with the 250 skimmer
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Did you make any progress? Just curious as to whats going on with the 250 skimmer
I bought some converters and now it's skimming like a devil :')
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