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Old 11-29-2008, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question RSM Clams?

I have been reading the clams thread here on Reef sanctuary and was wondering if anyone has tried and had any success with clams in the RSM? If you did what type of clam and any special conciderations you took when adding them. I have a stock tank and would like to add a spcimen but want to make sure that i can get something that will thrive. I realize that some clams will quickly out grow this tank but my intention is to get a larger tank within 12 to 18 months and move some of my specimens up to it. Pictures would be great and any input on growth rates would also be helpful.
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: RSM Clams?

You may be able to get away with a lower light requirement clam such as a T. derasa. I would not recommend any others.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: RSM Clams?

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You can, in my opinion keep ANY clam you like in the RSM! Now that I am successfully keeping Acropora in my RSM, I too am keepin my eye out for a clam or two!
The Crocea in my past experience are the most sensitive! These are boring clams. If they are happy in your tank, they bore right down into the rock until the mantle edge is flush with it! The "foot" is very delicate. If you damage it, you can usually kiss the clam goodbye!
The Deresa's are more hardy, but of course less colorful.
Now, the Tridacna Maxima is my favorite!!! Colors that rival the Crocea's and a little bit more hardy.
The RSM has plenty of light for these clams! Go for it!!!!!!!
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Re: RSM Clams?

agreed with dentoid on T. Derasa, i wouldnt go with anything that needs more light
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Thanks, ya'll are giving me the idea that it might be possible. I think, I will start with a T. Derasa. I'm going to start looking for one. Initially due to lack of response I thought noone had tried a clam in the RSM. Looking for something smaller like 3-4" range to start. From my readings all indications are that if you can get enough light to them, they are a great addition to any reef tank for nutrient uptake especially Amonia and Nitrate. Thanks for the input.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Exactly what lights DOES the "Stock" RSM have?
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Thanks, ya'll are giving me the idea that it might be possible. I think, I will start with a T. Derasa. I'm going to start looking for one. Initially due to lack of response I thought noone had tried a clam in the RSM. Looking for something smaller like 3-4" range to start. From my readings all indications are that if you can get enough light to them, they are a great addition to any reef tank for nutrient uptake especially Amonia and Nitrate. Thanks for the input.
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Are they "Individual Reflectors" or not? With T5's if it's not a high quality Ind reflector then no I wouldn't put High Light needing corals (SPS, Clams, Anemone etc). With quality T5's you can do more than with PC's but you have to be very particular as to the details with T5's.

They are quoting watt/liter (comparable to the US watt/gallon ) rule and that's only applicable for the most basic corals.
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Thanks, ya'll are giving me the idea that it might be possible. I think, I will start with a T. Derasa. I'm going to start looking for one. Initially due to lack of response I thought noone had tried a clam in the RSM. Looking for something smaller like 3-4" range to start. From my readings all indications are that if you can get enough light to them, they are a great addition to any reef tank for nutrient uptake especially Amonia and Nitrate. Thanks for the input.
I don't think that's the "purpose" of the clam and I wouldn't rely on it for such actions as such would indicate you have other "issues" going on in the tank. Also keep in mind that the smaller the clam the more fragile/sensitive it is.
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Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change.
Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC*.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian)
This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%.

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Are they "Individual Reflectors" or not?
no, they are not. Just a big reflector for all lights. This is from their website and is about the newer 130D model. The 130 model is somehow different (lower PAR, but no specifics that I can find):
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i thought RSM had T-5's, not PC. if its PC i wouldnt get a clam unless you upgrade the lights
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No it's T5's but I was using the PC thing as an example more than anything else. Sorry for any confusion
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i thought RSM had T-5's, not PC. if its PC i wouldnt get a clam unless you upgrade the lights
How does one tell the difference? As I recall, my 130 RSM has U-shaped bulbs...doesn't that suggest PC? They are called T5's by Red Sea, but they certainly aren't standard.

EDIT: now that I think about it, I don't think there is a U-shape. I'll have to take a better look when I get home.

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T5 is just a designation for a narrow diameter fluorescent tube. Regular 1" fluorescent tubes are generaly called T8. The small diameter allows for more fluorescent tubes to be used in a space that could only house 1 or 2-1" bulbs before. T5 are more efficient due to their size and generate less heat as a result. For aquarium lighting, several T5s side by side is best!

T5s are still fluorescent!
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