Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! - Page 8

Reefmack · 05-16-2009, 05:53 PM

Is the Tunze 9002 new? Like most, if not all, skimmers they tend to put out bubbles till they break in. Just guessing, but with only one pump going, the bubbles may be having a chance to rise to the surface, with a slower flow going through the back.

Nowellsy SNR · 05-17-2009, 06:44 AM

I seem to get some bubbles but nothing major is this still classed as microbubbles?

Reefmack · 05-17-2009, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nowellsy SNR

I seem to get some bubbles but nothing major is this still classed as microbubbles?

Yep, but if there are only a few I wouldn't worry about it.

Nowellsy SNR · 05-17-2009, 11:09 AM

Oh ok thanks Reefmack

nanoreefing4fun · 05-19-2009, 06:48 PM

To solve Microbubbles... my best tip is ... get that water level up there... way up there... till the water level is at top line in the window on a 130D.

Nowellsy SNR · 05-25-2009, 05:12 AM

My microbubbles have now gone alltogether after topping my water right to the very top....

supermarlin · 05-30-2009, 08:37 PM

Hello everybody, I just joined the forum 5 minutes ago. First post.
I am a new 130D RSM owner since a month. Microbubbles everyday, sometimes a lot, sometimes less, but always there.
-I experienced with the waterlevel high/low
-checked the inlets of the pumps: their always 100% free
-changed the stock skimmer for a Tunze 2009

Skimmer on or out doesnt matter.
I think their is only one possibility left: cavitation.
Somehow the pumps have a underpressure on the inlet, this might has to do with the inlet pipes (water resistance) or/and the pumps have a design problem.

I HATE BUBBLES and will not rest/put animals in the tank before this problem is solved. I am gonna put a different kind of pump next week with a T split tubing in the chamber of death and keep you posted.

Whipitup · 05-30-2009, 08:54 PM

Double post.....!!!

Chimo192 · 05-30-2009, 08:55 PM

Hello, as a new mwmber to the RC, and to the RSM Owners.

Has anyone yet developed a plan to rid the system of either micro or as i call it white out conditions.

I have followed all the advice given on here less extend the inlet pipes.

I live in a small town so the LFS has the market cornered......after shelling out over $1,200.00 for a system and to be let down is not a funny experience.

Yes why the circulation pumps out let hole were not lowered in the orginal design baffles me to begin with.

I am allowing this another month and see what I have for options.

Cheers

Whipitup · 05-30-2009, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supermarlin

Hello everybody, I just joined the forum 5 minutes ago. First post.
I am a new 130D RSM owner since a month. Microbubbles everyday, sometimes a lot, sometimes less, but always there.
-I experienced with the waterlevel high/low
-checked the inlets of the pumps: their always 100% free
-changed the stock skimmer for a Tunze 2009

Skimmer on or out doesnt matter.
I think their is only one possibility left: cavitation.
Somehow the pumps have a underpressure on the inlet, this might has to do with the inlet pipes (water resistance) or/and the pumps have a design problem.

I HATE BUBBLES and will not rest/put animals in the tank before this problem is solved. I am gonna put a different kind of pump next week with a T split tubing in the chamber of death and keep you posted.

Where to start??

Check the pumps aren't restricted.

Check the mechanical filter isn't blocked.

Check that your water level is as high as it can be (move the surface skimmer up as far as possible and top up the water).

Is the Carbon bag (if you are using it) isn't floating up under the pumps.

Are they continues bubbles or intermittent?

Photo's might help to sort it.

Roger

Whipitup · 05-30-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimo192

Hello, as a new mwmber to the RC, and to the RSM Owners.

Has anyone yet developed a plan to rid the system of either micro or as i call it white out conditions.

I have followed all the advice given on here less extend the inlet pipes.

I live in a small town so the LFS has the market cornered......after shelling out over $1,200.00 for a system and to be let down is not a funny experience.

Yes why the circulation pumps out let hole were not lowered in the orginal design baffles me to begin with.

I am allowing this another month and see what I have for options.

Cheers

I did seal the top and bottom with aquarium sealant in my new tank before I set it up.

I don't have any micro bubbles in this tank.

Are you sure it's not the skimmer causing the micro bubbles because it's not bedded in yet?

I have also heard stories that using Redsea salt helps.

Roger

Reefmack · 05-30-2009, 09:51 PM

Chimo192 - Welcome! maybe you should try the tubing extensions on the pumps? 2 different lengths might stop any cavitation. Be sure to use a 12-14 inch plastic cable tie around the pumps, to keep the weight of the tubing from pulling the bottom off. Some good ideas from Whipitup as well.

supermarlin - welcome to you too! Is there anything in your tank to generate organics to skim? if there's nothing to skim microbubbles are almost inevitable, especially if the skimmer hasn't broken in yet. Do the bubbles stop if you shut the skimmer off?

Chimo192 · 05-30-2009, 10:22 PM

Very well Reefmack,

Does anyone know the outside diameter of the inlet tubing?

Cheers

nanoreefing4fun · 05-30-2009, 10:29 PM

Chimo192 - tell me how high you have your water? When you look in the water level window, what mark are you running it at?

nanoreefing4fun · 05-30-2009, 10:31 PM

supermarlin - do you have a 130 or 130D?

05-16-2009, 05:53 PM	#106 (permalink)
Reefmack NaClH2O Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 6,161 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Is the Tunze 9002 new? Like most, if not all, skimmers they tend to put out bubbles till they break in. Just guessing, but with only one pump going, the bubbles may be having a chance to rise to the surface, with a slower flow going through the back. __________________ aka Terry Excellence in reefkeeping is achieved by mastering the fundamentals, and learning from mistakes. No such thing as an evil crab. Only humans have the ability to be evil. "If you don't like what your fellow forum neighbors are doing, then don't pay so much attention to them" 34g Red Sea Max 130 (April 07), ~50-60 lbs. live rock, Aragonite substrate. Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit Pro - 150W HQI, 2 x 24W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent by ATI, 2 x 24W Super Actinic T5 HO Fluorescent by UVL, Vortech MP20, LifeReef RSM Siphon, EShopps RS-75 Sump, Euro-Reef custom sump skimmer, Simplicity media reactor, Tunze Osmolator ATO, ReefKeeper Lite L3 controller Reefmack's RSM 130 and...Red Sea Max Owners Club and My JBJ 6G in this thread[/color][/i]

05-17-2009, 06:44 AM	#107 (permalink)
Nowellsy SNR Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Preston UK Posts: 1,202 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! I seem to get some bubbles but nothing major is this still classed as microbubbles?

05-17-2009, 11:09 AM	#109 (permalink)
Nowellsy SNR Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Preston UK Posts: 1,202 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Oh ok thanks Reefmack

05-19-2009, 06:48 PM	#110 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,552 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! To solve Microbubbles... my best tip is ... get that water level up there... way up there... till the water level is at top line in the window on a 130D. __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

05-25-2009, 05:12 AM	#111 (permalink)
Nowellsy SNR Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Preston UK Posts: 1,202 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! My microbubbles have now gone alltogether after topping my water right to the very top.... __________________ *Anthony Proud UK Based RSM 250 Owner* *Red Sea Max 250 Started 9/5/09 24kg Indonesian Live Rock, Tunze Stream 6065 Powerhead, D-D DC300 Chiller with external pump.....Vortech MP40 Coming for Xmas* *My Tank threadTake a look have a Nosey***

05-30-2009, 08:37 PM	#112 (permalink)
supermarlin Tunicate Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 10 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Hello everybody, I just joined the forum 5 minutes ago. First post. I am a new 130D RSM owner since a month. Microbubbles everyday, sometimes a lot, sometimes less, but always there. -I experienced with the waterlevel high/low -checked the inlets of the pumps: their always 100% free -changed the stock skimmer for a Tunze 2009 Skimmer on or out doesnt matter. I think their is only one possibility left: cavitation. Somehow the pumps have a underpressure on the inlet, this might has to do with the inlet pipes (water resistance) or/and the pumps have a design problem. I HATE BUBBLES and will not rest/put animals in the tank before this problem is solved. I am gonna put a different kind of pump next week with a T split tubing in the chamber of death and keep you posted.

05-30-2009, 08:54 PM	#113 (permalink)
Whipitup Scopas Tang Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 450 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Double post.....!!! __________________ I hope this doesn't go horribly wrong

05-30-2009, 08:55 PM	#114 (permalink)
Chimo192 Tubeworm Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 30 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Hello, as a new mwmber to the RC, and to the RSM Owners. Has anyone yet developed a plan to rid the system of either micro or as i call it white out conditions. I have followed all the advice given on here less extend the inlet pipes. I live in a small town so the LFS has the market cornered......after shelling out over $1,200.00 for a system and to be let down is not a funny experience. Yes why the circulation pumps out let hole were not lowered in the orginal design baffles me to begin with. I am allowing this another month and see what I have for options. Cheers __________________ "The one absolutely unselfish friend that a man can have in this selfish world, the one that never deserts him, the one that never proves ungrateful or treacherous, is his dog."- George Graham Vest

05-30-2009, 09:51 PM	#117 (permalink)
Reefmack NaClH2O Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 6,161 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Chimo192 - Welcome! maybe you should try the tubing extensions on the pumps? 2 different lengths might stop any cavitation. Be sure to use a 12-14 inch plastic cable tie around the pumps, to keep the weight of the tubing from pulling the bottom off. Some good ideas from Whipitup as well. supermarlin - welcome to you too! Is there anything in your tank to generate organics to skim? if there's nothing to skim microbubbles are almost inevitable, especially if the skimmer hasn't broken in yet. Do the bubbles stop if you shut the skimmer off? __________________ aka Terry Excellence in reefkeeping is achieved by mastering the fundamentals, and learning from mistakes. No such thing as an evil crab. Only humans have the ability to be evil. "If you don't like what your fellow forum neighbors are doing, then don't pay so much attention to them" 34g Red Sea Max 130 (April 07), ~50-60 lbs. live rock, Aragonite substrate. Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit Pro - 150W HQI, 2 x 24W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent by ATI, 2 x 24W Super Actinic T5 HO Fluorescent by UVL, Vortech MP20, LifeReef RSM Siphon, EShopps RS-75 Sump, Euro-Reef custom sump skimmer, Simplicity media reactor, Tunze Osmolator ATO, ReefKeeper Lite L3 controller Reefmack's RSM 130 and...Red Sea Max Owners Club and My JBJ 6G in this thread[/color][/i]

05-30-2009, 10:22 PM	#118 (permalink)
Chimo192 Tubeworm Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 30 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Very well Reefmack, Does anyone know the outside diameter of the inlet tubing? Cheers __________________ "The one absolutely unselfish friend that a man can have in this selfish world, the one that never deserts him, the one that never proves ungrateful or treacherous, is his dog."- George Graham Vest

05-30-2009, 10:29 PM	#119 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,552 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Chimo192 - tell me how high you have your water? When you look in the water level window, what mark are you running it at? __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

05-30-2009, 10:31 PM	#120 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,552 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! supermarlin - do you have a 130 or 130D? __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

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