Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! - Page 10

nanoreefing4fun · 07-04-2009, 08:29 PM

Billdad1 - are you running the 130, the 130D or a 250?

Most of my tips work everytime with the 130D's - re: Pinky insists that the problem is restricted flow... on my 130D this is the case for sure...

Billdad1 · 07-04-2009, 09:04 PM

It is a 130D
Where are your tips posted?

nanoreefing4fun · 07-05-2009, 10:56 AM

Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here!

Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here!

Chimo192 · 07-07-2009, 02:04 PM

Good Day,
After reading this thread and the trouble shooting from Red Sea.

Honestly has anyone rid their Red Sea either 130 or 250 of the dreaded micro-bubbles?

Even after placing extention tubes on the circulation pumps, reducing the size of the Black Foam to about 1-1.5 inches, leveling the tank, and filling up to the top. I still get the dreaded micro-bubbles.

This almost makes a person want to build their own set up and stop with the Red Sea All in One.

Any thoughts or opions?

Cheers

Reefmack · 07-07-2009, 02:23 PM

Some (not excessive) microbubbles are not a terrible thing to have. Reefs are not bubble free. One thing you could try is what I've done when switching skimmers (gave up on my RSM skimmer long ago). I just prop an inch thick piece of the coarse black sponge up against the top of the heater pane - so that the top of the sponge is just a bit above the water line in back. The sponge will act as a bubble trap and allow most, if not all, of the bubbles to be trapped and broken before they go over the heater pane, and eventually to the pumps, and then the tank. It won't do anything if the bubbles are generated in the pump chamber, but it should help with bubbles generated by the skimmer. It will be necessary to clean the sponge once a week or so, but it's easy to reach in that location.

I still get a few bubbles once in a while, but they no longer bother me. Most of the time my tank is bubble free.

echopiece · 07-07-2009, 02:41 PM

This is a good idea RM! I might have to move my chiller return line and give this a shot. However, my skimmer never produced microbubbles in my tank. I had it off for three days at one point and still had microbubbles! It has to be pump cavitation from the COD.

Chimo192 · 07-07-2009, 02:50 PM

Excellent thanks Reefmack.
It so happens I have a extra peice of the Black Foam , did not throw it after after cutting it.

Are the micro-bubbles bad for the fish, it last for about 10-15 min, not white out conditions.
Its more fustrating than anything else.

Cheers

Reefmack · 07-07-2009, 03:04 PM

I've had total whiteouts when a big Linkia star I had would cover the grate and starve the pumps. The tank looked like it was filled with white paint a few times, and I never lost any life in the tank. I don't think it's good to have the surface of your corals covered in bubbles all the time, but I've yet to see any harm to fish or corals.

nanoreefing4fun · 07-08-2009, 12:11 PM

I have zero micro bubbles... running stock 130D

Billdad1 · 07-08-2009, 12:47 PM

OK, Do tell.............I haven't heard of anyone who claims that!

alphasierra · 07-08-2009, 02:10 PM

Zero micro bubbles here too. Stock skimmer... original 130 model

redsea reefer · 07-08-2009, 02:28 PM

I can't say mine has zero microbubbles but close to it. I get a spurt or two every once in a while like a couple times a day.

Clutch · 07-30-2009, 12:31 AM

What about bubbles in the 250? It seems I am hearing lot's of MODS for the 130's. I get a hell of a lot in my 250 as well!

Nowellsy SNR · 07-30-2009, 07:34 PM

Only time i ever get microbubbles is when the skimmer collection cup overflows thats it

I've probly gone and jinxed it now lol

Clutch · 07-30-2009, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nowellsy SNR

Only time i ever get microbubbles is when the skimmer collection cup overflows thats it

I've probly gone and jinxed it now lol

How long has your tank been setup?

07-04-2009, 08:29 PM	#136 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,547 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Billdad1 - are you running the 130, the 130D or a 250? Most of my tips work everytime with the 130D's - re: Pinky insists that the problem is restricted flow... on my 130D this is the case for sure... __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

07-04-2009, 09:04 PM	#137 (permalink)
Billdad1 Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! It is a 130D Where are your tips posted?

07-05-2009, 10:56 AM	#138 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,547 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

07-07-2009, 02:04 PM	#139 (permalink)
Chimo192 Tubeworm Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 30 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Good Day, After reading this thread and the trouble shooting from Red Sea. Honestly has anyone rid their Red Sea either 130 or 250 of the dreaded micro-bubbles? Even after placing extention tubes on the circulation pumps, reducing the size of the Black Foam to about 1-1.5 inches, leveling the tank, and filling up to the top. I still get the dreaded micro-bubbles. This almost makes a person want to build their own set up and stop with the Red Sea All in One. Any thoughts or opions? Cheers __________________ "The one absolutely unselfish friend that a man can have in this selfish world, the one that never deserts him, the one that never proves ungrateful or treacherous, is his dog."- George Graham Vest

07-07-2009, 02:23 PM	#140 (permalink)
Reefmack NaClH2O Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 6,153 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Some (not excessive) microbubbles are not a terrible thing to have. Reefs are not bubble free. One thing you could try is what I've done when switching skimmers (gave up on my RSM skimmer long ago). I just prop an inch thick piece of the coarse black sponge up against the top of the heater pane - so that the top of the sponge is just a bit above the water line in back. The sponge will act as a bubble trap and allow most, if not all, of the bubbles to be trapped and broken before they go over the heater pane, and eventually to the pumps, and then the tank. It won't do anything if the bubbles are generated in the pump chamber, but it should help with bubbles generated by the skimmer. It will be necessary to clean the sponge once a week or so, but it's easy to reach in that location. I still get a few bubbles once in a while, but they no longer bother me. Most of the time my tank is bubble free. __________________ aka Terry Excellence in reefkeeping is achieved by mastering the fundamentals, and learning from mistakes. No such thing as an evil crab. Only humans have the ability to be evil. "If you don't like what your fellow forum neighbors are doing, then don't pay so much attention to them" 34g Red Sea Max 130 (April 07), ~50-60 lbs. live rock, Aragonite substrate. Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit Pro - 150W HQI, 2 x 24W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent by ATI, 2 x 24W Super Actinic T5 HO Fluorescent by UVL, Vortech MP20, LifeReef RSM Siphon, EShopps RS-75 Sump, Euro-Reef custom sump skimmer, Simplicity media reactor, Tunze Osmolator ATO, ReefKeeper Lite L3 controller Reefmack's RSM 130 and...Red Sea Max Owners Club and My JBJ 6G in this thread[/color][/i]

07-07-2009, 02:41 PM	#141 (permalink)
echopiece Sea Pen Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 325 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! This is a good idea RM! I might have to move my chiller return line and give this a shot. However, my skimmer never produced microbubbles in my tank. I had it off for three days at one point and still had microbubbles! It has to be pump cavitation from the COD.

07-07-2009, 02:50 PM	#142 (permalink)
Chimo192 Tubeworm Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 30 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Excellent thanks Reefmack. It so happens I have a extra peice of the Black Foam , did not throw it after after cutting it. Are the micro-bubbles bad for the fish, it last for about 10-15 min, not white out conditions. Its more fustrating than anything else. Cheers __________________ "The one absolutely unselfish friend that a man can have in this selfish world, the one that never deserts him, the one that never proves ungrateful or treacherous, is his dog."- George Graham Vest

07-07-2009, 03:04 PM	#143 (permalink)
Reefmack NaClH2O Addicted Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA Posts: 6,153 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! I've had total whiteouts when a big Linkia star I had would cover the grate and starve the pumps. The tank looked like it was filled with white paint a few times, and I never lost any life in the tank. I don't think it's good to have the surface of your corals covered in bubbles all the time, but I've yet to see any harm to fish or corals. __________________ aka Terry Excellence in reefkeeping is achieved by mastering the fundamentals, and learning from mistakes. No such thing as an evil crab. Only humans have the ability to be evil. "If you don't like what your fellow forum neighbors are doing, then don't pay so much attention to them" 34g Red Sea Max 130 (April 07), ~50-60 lbs. live rock, Aragonite substrate. Lighting: Current USA Outer Orbit Pro - 150W HQI, 2 x 24W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent by ATI, 2 x 24W Super Actinic T5 HO Fluorescent by UVL, Vortech MP20, LifeReef RSM Siphon, EShopps RS-75 Sump, Euro-Reef custom sump skimmer, Simplicity media reactor, Tunze Osmolator ATO, ReefKeeper Lite L3 controller Reefmack's RSM 130 and...Red Sea Max Owners Club and My JBJ 6G in this thread[/color][/i]

07-08-2009, 12:11 PM	#144 (permalink)
nanoreefing4fun Manta Ray Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central Arkansas, USA Posts: 3,547 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! I have zero micro bubbles... running stock 130D __________________ ~ Glenn 34 gal Red Sea Max 130D, with 2 1/2" deep sand bed of 0.1-0.2 Fine/Medium sand CaribSea Aragonite Seaflor Special Grade reef Sand and 35 # Live Rock Tonga Branch * CUC (snails, Ceriths, Nassarius, Margarita Turbos, Astrea & Banded Trochus - one Emerald crab - one Skunk Cleaner) * Coral - Two Color Aacanthastrea, Red Chalice Coral, Closed Brain Coral, Turbinaria Scroll Ridge Coral, Blue Tip Branching Acropora, Birdsnest Pink Coral, Cup Coral, Torch Coral , Hammerhead Coral, Open Brain Coral Orange, Keyna Tree Coral, Green Star Polyp, Frogspawn, Pom Pom Xenia, Green Eyed Zoanthids, Candy Cane Coral, Ricordea Floridian, Duncan Coral, Staghorn Acropora, Blue Chalice Coral, Flowerpot Goniopora & Bluestriped Mushroom *** Fish - (1) Scooter Blenny (2) Ocellaris Clownfish (1) Yellow Clown Goby My Tank Thread (click here to see the latest pics of my tank & how it is progressing)

07-08-2009, 12:47 PM	#145 (permalink)
Billdad1 Tunicate Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! OK, Do tell.............I haven't heard of anyone who claims that!

07-08-2009, 02:10 PM	#146 (permalink)
alphasierra Torch coral Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 552 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Zero micro bubbles here too. Stock skimmer... original 130 model

07-08-2009, 02:28 PM	#147 (permalink)
redsea reefer Golden Moray Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: L.A, California Posts: 2,144 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! I can't say mine has zero microbubbles but close to it. I get a spurt or two every once in a while like a couple times a day. __________________ Eddie 34g RSM 130 with 45#'s live rock and 30#'s aragonite reef sand. Tunze 9002 skimmer with inTank media rack - Koralia 2 My Tank Thread

07-30-2009, 12:31 AM	#148 (permalink)
Clutch Tubeworm Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: California Posts: 37 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! What about bubbles in the 250? It seems I am hearing lot's of MODS for the 130's. I get a hell of a lot in my 250 as well!

07-30-2009, 07:34 PM	#149 (permalink)
Nowellsy SNR Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Preston UK Posts: 1,202 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Microbubbles in your RSM? Check here! Only time i ever get microbubbles is when the skimmer collection cup overflows thats it I've probly gone and jinxed it now lol __________________ *Anthony Proud UK Based RSM 250 Owner* *Red Sea Max 250 Started 9/5/09 24kg Indonesian Live Rock, Tunze Stream 6065 Powerhead, D-D DC300 Chiller with external pump.....Vortech MP40 Coming for Xmas* *My Tank threadTake a look have a Nosey***

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