How do you run your circulation

Curtswearing · 08-16-2004, 08:37 PM

There are lots of different methods of circulating water in a reef tank. What method do you use? What are the advantages and disadvantages of your method?

PS....YOU CAN PICK MORE THAN ONE CHOICE.

Michael_Lambert · 08-16-2004, 08:44 PM

Myself i run the following,

-Little Giant 3mdxq on Closed loop for my SPS side of the tank only
- i run two Maxijets at either side of the tank blowing behind the rocks
- I run a Pressure pump rated at 1500GPH at 5 feed head through my SWQD to each side of the tank

it all works for me.

BoomerD · 08-16-2004, 09:21 PM

Powerheads on wavemakers, Closed loop with SQWD, hang on filter (occasionally for carbon use) and Mag drive pumps for main sump return.

RalphP · 08-16-2004, 10:33 PM

Hi
On my 30 I have a mag 9.5 running a closed loop to a scwd,1 maxijet 1200 piped down behind the rocks,and a rio 2100 pumping back from my fuge.I have a lot of flow.It took a while for me to get all lines in the right spots so I dont blow sand everywhere.
Thanks

Witfull · 08-16-2004, 10:45 PM

i had to vote other because i use a few of the listed choices. i have 3 PH's 2 on a wavemaker. a LG 3mdqx ona closed loop bottomsweep spraybar, the return form my chiller and my sump return that is split in 2.

NaH2O · 08-16-2004, 11:13 PM

Dave, did you know you can vote for more than one?

I have a closed loop - run by an ampmaster 3000 into a Hayward Motorized Ball Valve, on a timer.....switching about every 5 minutes or so. My return is just a return...not counting on it for any kind of flow....just getting the water back to the tank.

Witfull · 08-16-2004, 11:38 PM

i like the "other" box...thats to one i check when forms ask for ethnic background...i do not fit the mold,,,lol

Montanareefer · 08-17-2004, 12:20 AM

Well when I get my setup running it will be the following for circulation:

1. Will have 2- 1.5" drains to a AMP Master 2100 pump and return will be 4- 3/4" in-lets to the tank on the CLS.

2. Return from Sump will be a 9.5 Mag pump with 2- 3/4" in-lets to tank.

This will be on a 60 gallon cube tank and advantage is great circulation for sps corals.

beyondreef · 08-17-2004, 01:02 AM

I have two tunze streams pushing 1800 GPH a piece, with a multi-controller for wave-making. Along with a mag 36 in my sump.

Spooda420 · 08-17-2004, 07:42 AM

I have 2 Tunze streams 6080 pushing about 2250 GPH each on a 120 I love the flow...

that 37.5x turn over.

Brucey · 08-17-2004, 07:50 AM

Hi Curt . . . . I have 6500L pushing through the return and UV filter and 4000L pushing through variously placed PH around the tank all on a WAVE machine.

Total 10,500L (Approx 2,800Gallons) in a 180 gallon

Brucey

PS, Still thinking about a tunze but it's the size of the things !!!

Hooked · 08-17-2004, 11:32 AM

I have a Mag 12 return pump with a SCWD, a Panworld 100PXX on a closed loop, a Panworld 50PX on the chiller closed loop, and a Magnum 350 canister running charcoal which totals over 2,000 gph on a 90 gal

addict · 08-17-2004, 02:01 PM

I run 4 MJ-1200s for about 1200gph of circulation
I also run 2 Seio 820's for about 1700-1800gph of circulation.
And my return is a Mag 18 running split lines at about 1000gph total.

So, I have about 3900-4000gph of circulation in a 120 cube... about 32-33x turnover per hour.

I think the benefit of running multiple powerheads is the fact that they're a lot easier to position than a CLS where you have to know in advance where you'll want the flow to go. Also, redundancy means that if one pump fails, you don't lose all your flow.

The drawback is the fact that you have multiple pumps as multiple heat sources in the tank, raising your tank temperature... though I've heard of people's tanks climbing in temp even after adding an external CLS pump.

There's also the aesthetic issue, but I don't really notice the powerheads being there... they're just part of the system.

Cougra · 08-17-2004, 03:14 PM

I use power heads attached to a couple spray bars in the tank to give more tubulence to the water rather then having a couple powerful streams for the animals to contend with and I can dirrect a couple small currents across the animals that seem to like slightly more current.

Craig Manoukian · 08-17-2004, 08:03 PM

Two Aquaclear 800 Powerheads in each corner angled to the front of the tank.

Aquaclear 500 HOB filter with LR rubble as additional sump.

300 GPH overflow to 30 gallon sump/refugium with MAG7 return.

View Poll Results: How do you run your circulation?
Powerheads	136	68.00%
Closed Loop	52	26.00%
SCWD	26	13.00%
Tunze	25	12.50%
Seio	15	7.50%
Surge Device	3	1.50%
Hang on Back filters	25	12.50%
Other	20	10.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 200. You may not vote on this poll

08-16-2004, 08:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
Curtswearing Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,596 View Gallery Karma Komment	How do you run your circulation There are lots of different methods of circulating water in a reef tank. What method do you use? What are the advantages and disadvantages of your method? PS....YOU CAN PICK MORE THAN ONE CHOICE. __________________ In memory of Fluffy, please pause before hitting enter---being nice is free. Click for ReefKeeping FAQ'S Click for Product Reviews Click for Photo ID Gallery http://curtcpapfs.com/downloads/1Curt.jpg

08-16-2004, 09:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,637 View Gallery Karma Komment	Powerheads on wavemakers, Closed loop with SQWD, hang on filter (occasionally for carbon use) and Mag drive pumps for main sump return. __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

08-16-2004, 11:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
NaH2O Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,928 View Gallery Karma Komment	Dave, did you know you can vote for more than one? I have a closed loop - run by an ampmaster 3000 into a Hayward Motorized Ball Valve, on a timer.....switching about every 5 minutes or so. My return is just a return...not counting on it for any kind of flow....just getting the water back to the tank. __________________ ~Nikki~

08-17-2004, 07:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
Spooda420 Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 483 View Gallery Karma Komment	I have 2 Tunze streams 6080 pushing about 2250 GPH each on a 120 I love the flow... that 37.5x turn over. __________________ 120 gallon, 100 gallon sump, GEO Calcium Reactor, Aqua C EV-400 Skimmer, 300 pounds of LR, Bare Bottom, 2 Tetra UV2 Sterilizers, 2 Tunze 6080 streams, 2 - 400 watt DE Metal Halides Last edited by Spooda420 : 08-17-2004 at 08:51 PM.

08-16-2004, 08:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Michael_Lambert Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 586 View Gallery Karma Komment	Myself i run the following, -Little Giant 3mdxq on Closed loop for my SPS side of the tank only - i run two Maxijets at either side of the tank blowing behind the rocks - I run a Pressure pump rated at 1500GPH at 5 feed head through my SWQD to each side of the tank it all works for me.

08-16-2004, 10:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
RalphP Tunicate Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vero Beach Florida Posts: 15 View Gallery Karma Komment	Hi On my 30 I have a mag 9.5 running a closed loop to a scwd,1 maxijet 1200 piped down behind the rocks,and a rio 2100 pumping back from my fuge.I have a lot of flow.It took a while for me to get all lines in the right spots so I dont blow sand everywhere. Thanks

08-17-2004, 12:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
Montanareefer Has been struck by the ban stick Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,334 View Gallery Karma Komment	Well when I get my setup running it will be the following for circulation: 1. Will have 2- 1.5" drains to a AMP Master 2100 pump and return will be 4- 3/4" in-lets to the tank on the CLS. 2. Return from Sump will be a 9.5 Mag pump with 2- 3/4" in-lets to tank. This will be on a 60 gallon cube tank and advantage is great circulation for sps corals.

08-17-2004, 01:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
beyondreef Bryozoan Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Logan Posts: 51 View Gallery Karma Komment	I have two tunze streams pushing 1800 GPH a piece, with a multi-controller for wave-making. Along with a mag 36 in my sump.

08-17-2004, 07:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
Brucey Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reading, England Posts: 1,292 View Gallery Karma Komment	Hi Curt . . . . I have 6500L pushing through the return and UV filter and 4000L pushing through variously placed PH around the tank all on a WAVE machine. Total 10,500L (Approx 2,800Gallons) in a 180 gallon Brucey PS, Still thinking about a tunze but it's the size of the things !!! __________________ 160UK Gallon. (192US Gallon). 400Lbs LR. Aquamedic Turboflotor 5000 Shorty skimmer. Arcadia 3Series pendant (3x250W 14,000'K MH & 2x58W 60" actinic) (DIY cooling fan). Tunze 7095 Multicontroller & 2xTunze 6100 Streams. Redsea 100 Aquazone Plus ozonizer and redox computer. Aquamedic Ocean Runner 6500 return. TMC Vectron 30W UV sterilizer. Aquamedic Aquaniveau auto top up system through Deltec 500 kalk stirrer. PurityOnTap RO/DI. Deltec FR509 (ROWAPhos). Aquamedic PH computer controlling KNOP HD Calcium Reactor. Setup Nov 2002 See my tank here http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...&threadid=4486

08-17-2004, 11:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
Hooked Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 287 View Gallery Karma Komment	I have a Mag 12 return pump with a SCWD, a Panworld 100PXX on a closed loop, a Panworld 50PX on the chiller closed loop, and a Magnum 350 canister running charcoal which totals over 2,000 gph on a 90 gal __________________ Katrina 90 Gal AGA with 2-250W 10k AB DE MH, 220W VHO, Turboflotor 1000, GEO calcium reactor, Pacific Coast chiller, DIY phosphate reactor and nilsen kalk reactor, sps, clams, zoanthids, rose BTA, ocellaris clown, 2 green mandarins, royal gramma, purple tang, sargassum trigger, flame hawkfish, coral beauty, neon dottyback, purple and blue linckia star, brittlestars, snails, snails, snails

08-17-2004, 02:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
addict Reef Lobster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Sierra Nevada Country Posts: 1,621 View Gallery Karma Komment	I run 4 MJ-1200s for about 1200gph of circulation I also run 2 Seio 820's for about 1700-1800gph of circulation. And my return is a Mag 18 running split lines at about 1000gph total. So, I have about 3900-4000gph of circulation in a 120 cube... about 32-33x turnover per hour. I think the benefit of running multiple powerheads is the fact that they're a lot easier to position than a CLS where you have to know in advance where you'll want the flow to go. Also, redundancy means that if one pump fails, you don't lose all your flow. The drawback is the fact that you have multiple pumps as multiple heat sources in the tank, raising your tank temperature... though I've heard of people's tanks climbing in temp even after adding an external CLS pump. There's also the aesthetic issue, but I don't really notice the powerheads being there... they're just part of the system. __________________ -David *addict's tank specs:* Coming soon!

08-17-2004, 03:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Cougra Dragon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 2,216 View Gallery Karma Komment	I use power heads attached to a couple spray bars in the tank to give more tubulence to the water rather then having a couple powerful streams for the animals to contend with and I can dirrect a couple small currents across the animals that seem to like slightly more current. __________________ Michelle Just because something CAN be done, it doesn't mean that it SHOULD be done!

08-17-2004, 08:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,352 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Two Aquaclear 800 Powerheads in each corner angled to the front of the tank. Aquaclear 500 HOB filter with LR rubble as additional sump. 300 GPH overflow to 30 gallon sump/refugium with MAG7 return. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

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