Do you Quarantine? - Page 3

blenny · 12-02-2003, 07:10 PM

oh yeah, about setting them up...

i would usually set up my QT about a week before i planned on getting a fish, and i would change a 1-3 gallons of water during quarantine every 2 or 3 days. this would continue for at least 2-3 weeks to make sure that the new guy was eating. other than the ill-fated blennies, i only treated for ich once on a butterfly that ended up recovering very well.

i did all the water changing because i had nothing in the QT to clean up anything that the new guy wouldn't eat (which usually would be a lot in the beginning).

the QT sat empty for several months before i ended up putting my zoo frags in it... might have to get a new 10g QT or something if i ever plan on adding more fish!

mredman · 12-02-2003, 11:23 PM

I pass up some good livestock at the LFS but I never buy anything that is less than 10 days in the store. Since adopting this practice, I have never had a problem with communicable diseases, either with myself our my reef inhabitants!

NaH2O · 12-02-2003, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mredman
Since adopting this practice, I have never had a problem with communicable diseases, either with myself our my reef inhabitants!

As usual, Mike, you crack me up!

DocG · 12-03-2003, 10:22 AM

I really have to admit that Travis and blennie have a very good point. It is very hard to keep the quarantine tank a quarantine tank and not do a nano tank.

Right now I am using my quarantine tank as a grow out tank. I have 2 very small black ocellaris clownfish in the tank and I want to let them grow before I put them in the main tank (I am a little afraid that they might become flamehawk food).

Dennis7 · 12-06-2003, 01:50 AM

I keep a 20 gal ong for a quarantine tank. I learned from the school of hard knocks how important this is.

Curtswearing · 12-25-2003, 03:43 PM

I never quarantine corals but always quarantine fish. As a result, I now have a mantis in my reef tank.

salemreefer · 12-25-2003, 09:37 PM

mredman has got a good piece of advice ...since ick (possibly the most common problem) is a secondary symptom of a larger problem ( usually stress from moving ) why compound the move to even more moves and likely more ick? just get her over with and properly intro the fish right away imho...

Craig Manoukian · 01-14-2004, 02:53 AM

I never quarantine my fish or corals. The majority of livestock I get is from my LFS. They treat their fish with copper and other meds and I never buy new arrivals, only fish that have been in their tank for 2 weeks.

Their coral tank is a good reef system and the water parameters are very close to mine. They never use meds and again, I never get new arrivals. I too believe in the less stress with less moves theory, but take these precautions.

So far no ich in almost two years!

nivek · 01-14-2004, 03:51 AM

I never quarantine anything though I know I should and I have a permanent 911 emergency response team by the name of Dr Ick (my cleaner shrimp) who will hopefully cure an ick outbreak if it does happen.

Craig Manoukian · 01-14-2004, 08:48 AM

Oh yes nivek, wo Red Skunk Ceaner Shrimp here!

middletonmark · 01-14-2004, 11:26 AM

Yep, I have the same sort of QT as blenny, Travis ... a permanent one. About a 3" sandbed, maybe 8# of LR [low load!] that's easily removable when I need to move a fish to my main tank ... single actinic flourescent on a 15g tank, hang-on filter and a powerhead & heater.

Only fish I've lost have been blue reef chromis, which from what I understand don't ship well ... anyway, every other fish IMO has gotten well fed, de-stressed, and has great water conditions [as permanently set up, and normally weeks or more between fish so the water quality is easy to keep up [single hermit in there, a couple reproducing mini-strombus snails].

IMO, with stable conditions ... how can it not be better than my main tank? No stressors [it's in my basement storeroom, near the RO unit] ... rarely anyone passing by, lights on only when I haul RO or mixed salt water upstairs ... and normally only see me when I feed. Seems to make the fish respond to people better IMO ... every fish I put through that comes to check out people, as half the time [in QT] they get fed then.

Now that I took my small PC fixture for a refugium ... I'm no longer so tempted to use it for coral propagation

Have used it for a while as a `bubble algae cleaning tank' ... during a fishless couple of months I put an emerald crab in there, didn't feed ... and slowly cycled through some rocks of mine that had bubble algae. Emerald did a knock up job, provided he was probably starving.

But ever since the first [seemed healthy for a few weeks at a good LFS here] fish I got came down with Ich ... I've used QT. Just not worth risking my fishies' lives, hassle, or waste money.

Got a pair of Filamented Flasher Wrasses in there now

cheeks69 · 03-17-2004, 10:07 PM

If your fish become sick do you treat them in that same tank ? I would think in a quaratine tank you wouldn't want to have sand or LR in case you need to treat your fish or a new addition for parasitic or bacterial infections.

Xanareef · 05-15-2004, 10:33 AM

This poll doesn't have an option for "I don't quarantine because I've made a conscious decision to not acquire any more livestock"

Alexis

newsalt · 07-22-2004, 04:43 PM

I didn't quarentine any of my fish and they did great. I quarentined my first fish a week ago and it died in the QT tank two days later.

middletonmark · 07-23-2004, 06:52 AM

Well, they were either on their way to death or the QT was setup without adequate filtration IMO.

Given all the various problem species [flatworms, red bugs, monti nudi's] around of late ... I've decided that a QT for corals is mandatory with trading for me.
Time + money-wise ... it's worth the cost of setting up a holding tank to not have to mess with my display tanks again.

View Poll Results: Do You Quarantine?
Yes, I quarantine regularly	26	15.20%
Yes, not only do I quarantine, but I also dip	10	5.85%
No, I don't - even though I know I should	123	71.93%
Quarantine, what's that?	12	7.02%
Voters: 171. You may not vote on this poll

12-06-2003, 01:50 AM	#35 (permalink)
Dennis7 Ricordea Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 190 View Gallery Karma Komment	I keep a 20 gal ong for a quarantine tank. I learned from the school of hard knocks how important this is. __________________ Dennis 120 gal/tank, custom overflow in center, closed-loop on a Squid, custom sump,Reef Concepts skimmer, CA reactor, Refugium gravity feed into tank, Lighting: 2 - 250 watt MH's, 4- 55 watt PC's, and 110 watt VHO. 12 gal NanoCube, with 2-32 watt PC's and a 13 watt PC, in a custom hood.

12-25-2003, 03:43 PM	#36 (permalink)
Curtswearing Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,596 View Gallery Karma Komment	I never quarantine corals but always quarantine fish. As a result, I now have a mantis in my reef tank. __________________ In memory of Fluffy, please pause before hitting enter---being nice is free. Click for ReefKeeping FAQ'S Click for Product Reviews Click for Photo ID Gallery http://curtcpapfs.com/downloads/1Curt.jpg

01-14-2004, 02:53 AM	#38 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,343 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	I never quarantine my fish or corals. The majority of livestock I get is from my LFS. They treat their fish with copper and other meds and I never buy new arrivals, only fish that have been in their tank for 2 weeks. Their coral tank is a good reef system and the water parameters are very close to mine. They never use meds and again, I never get new arrivals. I too believe in the less stress with less moves theory, but take these precautions. So far no ich in almost two years! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

01-14-2004, 03:51 AM	#39 (permalink)
nivek Cabbage Leather Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Penang, Malaysia Posts: 367 View Gallery Karma Komment	I never quarantine anything though I know I should and I have a permanent 911 emergency response team by the name of Dr Ick (my cleaner shrimp) who will hopefully cure an ick outbreak if it does happen. __________________ "Hey Yoda! Stop playing with my orange lightsaber!" - Master Nivek

12-02-2003, 07:10 PM	#31 (permalink)
blenny Tunicate Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 24 View Gallery Karma Komment	oh yeah, about setting them up... i would usually set up my QT about a week before i planned on getting a fish, and i would change a 1-3 gallons of water during quarantine every 2 or 3 days. this would continue for at least 2-3 weeks to make sure that the new guy was eating. other than the ill-fated blennies, i only treated for ich once on a butterfly that ended up recovering very well. i did all the water changing because i had nothing in the QT to clean up anything that the new guy wouldn't eat (which usually would be a lot in the beginning). the QT sat empty for several months before i ended up putting my zoo frags in it... might have to get a new 10g QT or something if i ever plan on adding more fish!

12-02-2003, 11:23 PM	#32 (permalink)
mredman Limpet Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 149 View Gallery Karma Komment	I pass up some good livestock at the LFS but I never buy anything that is less than 10 days in the store. Since adopting this practice, I have never had a problem with communicable diseases, either with myself our my reef inhabitants!

12-03-2003, 10:22 AM	#34 (permalink)
DocG Tunicate Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada Posts: 18 View Gallery Karma Komment	I really have to admit that Travis and blennie have a very good point. It is very hard to keep the quarantine tank a quarantine tank and not do a nano tank. Right now I am using my quarantine tank as a grow out tank. I have 2 very small black ocellaris clownfish in the tank and I want to let them grow before I put them in the main tank (I am a little afraid that they might become flamehawk food).

12-25-2003, 09:37 PM	#37 (permalink)
salemreefer Tubeworm Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: salem Oregon Posts: 31 View Gallery Karma Komment	mredman has got a good piece of advice ...since ick (possibly the most common problem) is a secondary symptom of a larger problem ( usually stress from moving ) why compound the move to even more moves and likely more ick? just get her over with and properly intro the fish right away imho...

01-14-2004, 08:48 AM	#40 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,343 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Oh yes nivek, wo Red Skunk Ceaner Shrimp here! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

01-14-2004, 11:26 AM	#41 (permalink)
middletonmark Star Polyps Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 165 View Gallery Karma Komment	Yep, I have the same sort of QT as blenny, Travis ... a permanent one. About a 3" sandbed, maybe 8# of LR [low load!] that's easily removable when I need to move a fish to my main tank ... single actinic flourescent on a 15g tank, hang-on filter and a powerhead & heater. Only fish I've lost have been blue reef chromis, which from what I understand don't ship well ... anyway, every other fish IMO has gotten well fed, de-stressed, and has great water conditions [as permanently set up, and normally weeks or more between fish so the water quality is easy to keep up [single hermit in there, a couple reproducing mini-strombus snails]. IMO, with stable conditions ... how can it not be better than my main tank? No stressors [it's in my basement storeroom, near the RO unit] ... rarely anyone passing by, lights on only when I haul RO or mixed salt water upstairs ... and normally only see me when I feed. Seems to make the fish respond to people better IMO ... every fish I put through that comes to check out people, as half the time [in QT] they get fed then. Now that I took my small PC fixture for a refugium ... I'm no longer so tempted to use it for coral propagation Have used it for a while as a `bubble algae cleaning tank' ... during a fishless couple of months I put an emerald crab in there, didn't feed ... and slowly cycled through some rocks of mine that had bubble algae. Emerald did a knock up job, provided he was probably starving. But ever since the first [seemed healthy for a few weeks at a good LFS here] fish I got came down with Ich ... I've used QT. Just not worth risking my fishies' lives, hassle, or waste money. Got a pair of Filamented Flasher Wrasses in there now __________________ smile smile smile

03-17-2004, 10:07 PM	#42 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 6,843 View Gallery Karma Komment	If your fish become sick do you treat them in that same tank ? I would think in a quaratine tank you wouldn't want to have sand or LR in case you need to treat your fish or a new addition for parasitic or bacterial infections. __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

05-15-2004, 10:33 AM	#43 (permalink)
Xanareef Fire Coral Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto, Ont Posts: 64 View Gallery Karma Komment	This poll doesn't have an option for "I don't quarantine because I've made a conscious decision to not acquire any more livestock" Alexis __________________ I do not have a signature.

07-22-2004, 04:43 PM	#44 (permalink)
newsalt Torch coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 578 View Gallery Karma Komment	I didn't quarentine any of my fish and they did great. I quarentined my first fish a week ago and it died in the QT tank two days later. __________________ Equipment 120g Reef, (2) 250W XM 20K MH, (2) 110W T12 VHO Super Actinic, MRC MR2 Beckett Skimmer, 55g Sump, Iwaki Return Pump Setup August 2006

07-23-2004, 06:52 AM	#45 (permalink)
middletonmark Star Polyps Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 165 View Gallery Karma Komment	Well, they were either on their way to death or the QT was setup without adequate filtration IMO. Given all the various problem species [flatworms, red bugs, monti nudi's] around of late ... I've decided that a QT for corals is mandatory with trading for me. Time + money-wise ... it's worth the cost of setting up a holding tank to not have to mess with my display tanks again. __________________ smile smile smile

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