which skimmer?

prow · 11-15-2007, 05:44 PM

hello again

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tell me what you would do. this is for a 180gal clam tank. there will be a sump 50-60gal(geussing). both are rated about the same. one is external only and the other is in sump only. one is a downdraft and the other is a needle wheel.

AQTCJAK · 11-15-2007, 07:20 PM

ASM Agaain

prow · 11-15-2007, 07:21 PM

Frankie · 11-15-2007, 09:42 PM

After having my local reef geek built my reactor custom to fit my aquarium needs, I have to say that is the only way i will ever go again. This thing is easy to set up and adjust. He took ideas from other "store bought " designs and improved them to function flawlessly. If you would like Prow, I will take some pictures of it for you and give you his number. Cost was fair also.

Frankie · 11-15-2007, 09:43 PM

Woops! i thought i saw ca++ reactor! Sorry!

sasquatch · 11-15-2007, 09:55 PM

clam tank huh, I dont see where a killer skimmer would fit in, the g3 seems very reliable, will you be maintaining a nitrate level or shooting for 0 ?. Steve

Frankie · 11-15-2007, 10:03 PM

Thats what is was. I saw clam tank and thought ca++ reactor!

sasquatch · 11-15-2007, 10:07 PM

clam tank = FEED ME!!! Frankie how is the effluent for ph? is it recirculating??

DaveK · 11-15-2007, 10:34 PM

I'd use the ETSS 600. I would consider it to be the more aggressive skimmer, and it's external. More plumbing is needed, but if done correctly, it also makes the skimmer easy to remove and clean.

The Asm G3 would also be fine.

I don't think you would need anything larger.

mps9506 · 11-15-2007, 11:54 PM

I'm a fan of needlewheel skimmers just because of the simplicity and ability to use a relatively low power pumps. I haven't used ASM as I'm kind of a euro-reef fan boy, but they both have relatively the same performance and I've always been happy with the ability to set my skimate really wet easily and have not had any desire to have a more powerful skimmer.

I would figure out what would fit for you as far as the plumbing and internal or extrnal setup and go from there.

Frankie · 11-16-2007, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sasquatch

clam tank = FEED ME!!! Frankie how is the effluent for ph? is it recirculating??

Over two weeks now and the effluent is 6.5 tank 8.2
I did need to use seachem calcium to get the tank stable with ca++ at 460. I am pleased!

prow · 11-16-2007, 09:19 AM

thanks guys. glad your reactor is working out for ya frankie, i might be looking to up grade my mine, before i buy/build a new one i will try this one and see how it does

sasquatch, i think i will be keeping NO2 at <5 but not 0.

i have to room to plumb the ETSS and run the ASM if i wanted, no worries on room. i am starting to think its coming down to the pumps. both run about the same wattage. the difference i see is the heat produced by the in sump sedra pump(ASM) vs the noise produced by the external iwaki pump(ETSS). at first i was leaning toward the ESTT cause less heat produced. now i am leaning toward the ASM cause might be alot quieter. maybe i should i hook both up to my current system and listen, lol.

Frankie · 11-16-2007, 09:25 AM

I have the sedra you recommended to me on a nautilus. It is very quiet. You could mix and match maybe? My next DIY project to this skimmer is a diffusion plate.

fishnu · 11-16-2007, 09:29 AM

My g2 seems to be working spectacularly. YMMV.

prow · 11-16-2007, 09:33 AM

yeah i must say the sedra's are nice and quiet. i think thats more of a factor for me, i know both pumps are very reliable. i also realize the needle wheel is way more advanced, technology wise, when compared to downdraft skimmers. better or not i have no idea. but i think i am talking myself into the ASM, with a little help from my friends here, thanks again guys/girls i feel i am close to making a decision.

View Poll Results: your pick for a 180gal clam tank?
1. ETSS XR 600 PRO external, running on a Iwaki MD40 RLT pump, or	2	8.70%
2. ASM G-3 in sump, running on a sedra 5000 needle wheel pump, or	15	65.22%
3. sell both and upgrade	6	26.09%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

11-15-2007, 05:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,343 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	which skimmer? hello again. tell me what you would do. this is for a 180gal clam tank. there will be a sump 50-60gal(geussing). both are rated about the same. one is external only and the other is in sump only. one is a downdraft and the other is a needle wheel. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

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prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,343 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: which skimmer? lol __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

11-15-2007, 09:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: which skimmer? clam tank huh, I dont see where a killer skimmer would fit in, the g3 seems very reliable, will you be maintaining a nitrate level or shooting for 0 ?. Steve

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sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: which skimmer? clam tank = FEED ME!!! Frankie how is the effluent for ph? is it recirculating??

11-15-2007, 10:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
DaveK Neon dottyback Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philadelpahia, PA Posts: 661 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which skimmer? I'd use the ETSS 600. I would consider it to be the more aggressive skimmer, and it's external. More plumbing is needed, but if done correctly, it also makes the skimmer easy to remove and clean. The Asm G3 would also be fine. I don't think you would need anything larger.

11-15-2007, 11:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
mps9506 Totally stoked dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,518 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which skimmer? I'm a fan of needlewheel skimmers just because of the simplicity and ability to use a relatively low power pumps. I haven't used ASM as I'm kind of a euro-reef fan boy, but they both have relatively the same performance and I've always been happy with the ability to set my skimate really wet easily and have not had any desire to have a more powerful skimmer. I would figure out what would fit for you as far as the plumbing and internal or extrnal setup and go from there. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

11-16-2007, 09:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,343 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: which skimmer? thanks guys. glad your reactor is working out for ya frankie, i might be looking to up grade my mine, before i buy/build a new one i will try this one and see how it does sasquatch, i think i will be keeping NO2 at <5 but not 0. i have to room to plumb the ETSS and run the ASM if i wanted, no worries on room. i am starting to think its coming down to the pumps. both run about the same wattage. the difference i see is the heat produced by the in sump sedra pump(ASM) vs the noise produced by the external iwaki pump(ETSS). at first i was leaning toward the ESTT cause less heat produced. now i am leaning toward the ASM cause might be alot quieter. maybe i should i hook both up to my current system and listen, lol. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

11-16-2007, 09:29 AM	#14 (permalink)
fishnu Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 998 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: which skimmer? My g2 seems to be working spectacularly. YMMV. __________________ *I'd rather be good slow than bad fast.* Fishnu, Lord of Fishes Mantis Shrimp Club My Tank Thread The Wisdom of Fishnu - Mistakes on the path. 75 Gal Refurbished and Refinished Dutch Aquariums System Tank drilled with 2 1.5" bulkheads and 30 Gal Sump / Refugium Combo; 90 Lbs Fiji LR; ASM G2; OR6500 Pump; 2 Koralia Nanos; 2 150W HQI 2 96W Actinics; Gamma 25w UV; Kent Maxxima Hi S 60GPD RO/DI. Amphiprion percula (OMEN); Sphaeramia nematoptera (CODY); stenopus hispidus (PIMP THE SHRIMP); Selected hermits and snails. Euphyllia divisa, Euphyllia glabrescens, Pink Acanthastrea (Lord?), Zoas, selected mushrooms (Rhodactis, Actinodiscus, Sarcophyton ...). Looking for mermaid.

11-16-2007, 09:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,343 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: which skimmer? yeah i must say the sedra's are nice and quiet. i think thats more of a factor for me, i know both pumps are very reliable. i also realize the needle wheel is way more advanced, technology wise, when compared to downdraft skimmers. better or not i have no idea. but i think i am talking myself into the ASM, with a little help from my friends here, thanks again guys/girls i feel i am close to making a decision. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

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