Time for new lamps - 400w Single Ended - Page 3

Witfull · 09-13-2006, 08:22 PM

well,,after some time putting it off,,im getting XM 10's...i talk the talk,,and walk the walk....who wants to follow?

boozeman · 09-13-2006, 08:42 PM

me...me...me...oh wait...I don't have a tank yet

btw...when switching to a higher intensity light source, is tip bleaching to be expected or is there a way around it?

billyr98 · 09-13-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Witfull

well,,after some time putting it off,,im getting XM 10's...i talk the talk,,and walk the walk....who wants to follow?

i will.. are you cutting back your lighting period?

Witfull · 09-13-2006, 10:02 PM

gonna raise the lights 2" and see how it goes~

cheeks69 · 09-13-2006, 10:41 PM

I believe in Dave's case he has 250's but I don't remember the dimensions of the tank but even then I would definitely suggest reducing the photoperiod.

BTW which ballasts are you guys using ?

billyr98 · 09-14-2006, 12:32 AM

i have the same size tank as dave... and i am running standard ballast from the hamilton fixture.. probably M59 or something like that..

cheeks69 · 09-14-2006, 12:57 AM

Well lookin at Sanjay's article the XM 10k 400 w bulb has a PPFD of 172 on a M59 ballast. On my reefanatic 250w ballast it had a PPFD of 115 so you can see a noticeable difference in PAR between them.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...4/feature2.htm

billyr98 · 09-14-2006, 01:41 AM

great info Robert...

just worried now.. would love to get the xms... but don't wanna fry anything..

hmm.. maybe XM 14k would be a little better for my transition...

But if i can go up 2" with the 10k and run for like 6hrs - then 8 hrs.. i would go for that!

R.yumaDaddy? · 09-14-2006, 02:30 AM

Hey Billy a little off topic as I know nothing about halides. I'm sure you thought about changin those PC's to T5's. DO IT and you wont regret it. Actinic PC STIIINK compared to T5's, the colors just jump out. Ill be posting some before and after picks of my 29 gal PC to T5 conversion when I get my frame built this weekend.

cheeks69 · 09-14-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by billyr98

great info Robert...

just worried now.. would love to get the xms... but don't wanna fry anything..

hmm.. maybe XM 14k would be a little better for my transition...

But if i can go up 2" with the 10k and run for like 6hrs - then 8 hrs.. i would go for that!

I think if your patient and see how your corals react you shouldn't have any problems. The XM 10 K's have been around for a while and are a good bulb just figured I would give ya a heads up on acclimation.

Witfull · 09-14-2006, 04:38 PM

the PAR on XM 15k is below lousy.

billyr98 · 09-14-2006, 05:11 PM

I read the whole thread on the Sanjay's article.. Nice info...
I still want the XM 10ks...

Dave, what watt bulbs are yours?

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Originally Posted by R.yumaDaddy?

Hey Billy a little off topic as I know nothing about halides. I'm sure you thought about changin those PC's to T5's. DO IT and you wont regret it. Actinic PC STIIINK compared to T5's, the colors just jump out. Ill be posting some before and after picks of my 29 gal PC to T5 conversion when I get my frame built this weekend.

My PCs are in a built in canopy by hamilton, i rather not...

Witfull · 09-14-2006, 05:15 PM

im running 250's, but bulbs are appx 3" from water. i had the 15k XMs. nice color,,,but PAR rots~

billyr98 · 09-14-2006, 05:16 PM

got ya... looks like i will order them tonight and maybe just have my hamiton hood a little higher than normal and slowly lower it back into my wood canopy..

cheeks69 · 09-16-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by billyr98

got ya... looks like i will order them tonight and maybe just have my hamiton hood a little higher than normal and slowly lower it back into my wood canopy..

Make sure you post some before/after pics

View Poll Results: 400w MH - Single Ended with four 96w PC Actinics
XM 10k	10	34.48%
XM 15k	3	10.34%
XM 20k	1	3.45%
Ushio 10k	3	10.34%
Ushio 20k	0	0%
Radium 20k	1	3.45%
AB 10k	0	0%
CoralVue 20k	1	3.45%
CoralVue 10k	0	0%
Reeflux 10k	3	10.34%
Ushio 14k	1	3.45%
Reeflux 12k	0	0%
Iwaski 6k	1	3.45%
Sunburst 12k	1	3.45%
Blueline 10k+	0	0%
Blueline 20k	0	0%
Hamilton 10k	0	0%
Hamilton 14k	4	13.79%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

09-13-2006, 08:42 PM	#32 (permalink)
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cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,000 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Time for new lamps - 400w Single Ended I believe in Dave's case he has 250's but I don't remember the dimensions of the tank but even then I would definitely suggest reducing the photoperiod. BTW which ballasts are you guys using ? __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

09-14-2006, 12:32 AM	#36 (permalink)
billyr98 Reefing Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 5,400 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Time for new lamps - 400w Single Ended i have the same size tank as dave... and i am running standard ballast from the hamilton fixture.. probably M59 or something like that.. __________________ Billyr98 -=NJRC Treasurer=- My 450g Reef Tank ~~~ Its HERE!!!

09-14-2006, 12:57 AM	#37 (permalink)
cheeks69 Wannabe Guru Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northeast Posts: 7,000 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Time for new lamps - 400w Single Ended Well lookin at Sanjay's article the XM 10k 400 w bulb has a PPFD of 172 on a M59 ballast. On my reefanatic 250w ballast it had a PPFD of 115 so you can see a noticeable difference in PAR between them. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...4/feature2.htm __________________ Robert My Cube “A spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe—a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” Albert Einstein

09-14-2006, 01:41 AM	#38 (permalink)
billyr98 Reefing Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 5,400 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Time for new lamps - 400w Single Ended great info Robert... just worried now.. would love to get the xms... but don't wanna fry anything.. hmm.. maybe XM 14k would be a little better for my transition... But if i can go up 2" with the 10k and run for like 6hrs - then 8 hrs.. i would go for that! __________________ Billyr98 -=NJRC Treasurer=- My 450g Reef Tank ~~~ Its HERE!!!

09-14-2006, 02:30 AM	#39 (permalink)
R.yumaDaddy? Torch coral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Easton, PA Posts: 513 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Time for new lamps - 400w Single Ended Hey Billy a little off topic as I know nothing about halides. I'm sure you thought about changin those PC's to T5's. DO IT and you wont regret it. Actinic PC STIIINK compared to T5's, the colors just jump out. Ill be posting some before and after picks of my 29 gal PC to T5 conversion when I get my frame built this weekend. __________________ The early bird gets the worm, but what about the early worm?

09-14-2006, 05:16 PM	#44 (permalink)
billyr98 Reefing Addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 5,400 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Time for new lamps - 400w Single Ended got ya... looks like i will order them tonight and maybe just have my hamiton hood a little higher than normal and slowly lower it back into my wood canopy.. __________________ Billyr98 -=NJRC Treasurer=- My 450g Reef Tank ~~~ Its HERE!!!

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