which fish is the hardiest?

Splendid · 07-20-2006, 11:13 AM

I'm just starting a predator tank and i am not sure which fish is the hardiest?!?

Snelly40 · 07-20-2006, 11:23 AM

wow, im not evtirely sure, some tangs are very tough but so are a lot of triggers. I know my dad's yellow tang beats up his trigger but some triggers are very very tough and mean plus they can be really cool looking. I think a trigger might be a great mix for ya. good luck but im gonna follow along as well b/c im unsure about some of the ones listed.

Malibureefer · 07-20-2006, 11:23 AM

I started cycling a predator tank and put in a large rabbit fish, a grouper and a 4 small damsels to help the cycling. The ammonia spiked way high and all the fish got really sick. The damsels all died. I moved the rabbit fish and the grouper to my quarantine tank and the rabbitfish hung on for a couple more days and then died. The grouper, which looked almost dead, made an amazing come back and looks as good as new.

Cartman89 · 07-20-2006, 11:24 AM

Morays with out a doubt! They can stand nitrates, ammonia, nitrites, pH,ect.! One eel I had jump out of the tank one night and I found him on the floor the next morning. He was still alive! So the moray gets my vote.

Snelly40 · 07-20-2006, 11:29 AM

haha, wow, i know they are tough but im just not a uge fan so i didnt vote, call it biased but that is amazing that he survived on ur floor like that

BoomerD · 07-20-2006, 12:53 PM

Triggers are tough enough to withstand the torture of cycling tanks. Back in the day, it was a fairly common practice to use them instead of damnsels...

Cartman89 · 07-20-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoomerD

Triggers are tough enough to withstand the torture of cycling tanks. Back in the day, it was a fairly common practice to use them instead of damnsels...

or eels...

reefjitsu · 07-20-2006, 02:07 PM

Lionfish, morays, triggers are probably the most hardy.

A word of caution about "predator" tanks: Choose your livestock very carefully. Often people mean aggressive or territorial when they talk about setting up a predator tank. They are looking for "tough-guy" fish. Many of the large predatory fish that are common to this hobby are not all that aggressive. When put in a tank with a territorial or aggressive fish, they end up being harrassed, stressed and dead.

Splendid · 07-20-2006, 02:58 PM

are panther groupers okay cause that is what i have!(malibureefer is my dad!)

Boomer · 07-20-2006, 03:15 PM

Yes, they do fine. I just posted that and a Lion on the other thread. Triggers can be very agressive

reefjitsu · 07-20-2006, 03:23 PM

Panther groupers are a great hardy fish, but they get huge! They will do best with other peaceful large predatory, but not aggressive or territorial species. Out of your list of fish, I would go with other groupers, lionfish, and maybe an eel for tankmates.

Splendid · 09-23-2006, 09:49 PM

Thanks

cesar · 09-24-2006, 12:26 AM

DAMNsels are very hardy.

music man · 10-02-2006, 02:49 AM

moray eel doesnt even need water they can live anywhere in mudflats or in fresh water they can eat anything from meat to fruit and grasses, they can live atleast 24 hrs without water even dried up starting to get "crunchy" (trust me I know) and make a full recovery in no time. but.. they probably also out live some owners so they are an investment that can grow to 6' in length and weigh as much as a 75lbs. then one day when everything is going well the tank is perfect the whole set up is in perfect harmony, the litle sucker dissapears for good??? where does a 15lb moray go?? I don't know he never stunk or anything they are alcatraz escape houdine artists. I think he snuck out the door and got snatched by raccoons or cats?

semigodd154 · 10-04-2006, 10:37 AM

I think the panther grouper i had was bullet proof made it through ick outbreaks 2 power outages and a move def.an awesome fish but need a large tank

View Poll Results: Which fish is the hardiest for a new predator tank?
Angelfish	1	1.85%
groupers	9	16.67%
triggers	15	27.78%
puffers	4	7.41%
wrasses	7	12.96%
Tangs	0	0%
rabbitfish	1	1.85%
moray eels	9	16.67%
lionfish	5	9.26%
other (please post below)	7	12.96%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

07-20-2006, 11:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Splendid Midas Blenny Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 109 View Gallery Karma Komment	which fish is the hardiest? I'm just starting a predator tank and i am not sure which fish is the hardiest?!?

07-20-2006, 11:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,449 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? wow, im not evtirely sure, some tangs are very tough but so are a lot of triggers. I know my dad's yellow tang beats up his trigger but some triggers are very very tough and mean plus they can be really cool looking. I think a trigger might be a great mix for ya. good luck but im gonna follow along as well b/c im unsure about some of the ones listed. __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society* In Hoc Signo Vinces

07-20-2006, 11:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
Malibureefer Tunicate Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? I started cycling a predator tank and put in a large rabbit fish, a grouper and a 4 small damsels to help the cycling. The ammonia spiked way high and all the fish got really sick. The damsels all died. I moved the rabbit fish and the grouper to my quarantine tank and the rabbitfish hung on for a couple more days and then died. The grouper, which looked almost dead, made an amazing come back and looks as good as new.

07-20-2006, 11:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cartman89 Neon dottyback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Branson, MO Posts: 659 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? Morays with out a doubt! They can stand nitrates, ammonia, nitrites, pH,ect.! One eel I had jump out of the tank one night and I found him on the floor the next morning. He was still alive! So the moray gets my vote. __________________ I'am the Shark Police, if you want a shark your going to have to go through me. In Loving Memory http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...n101/aq015.jpg

07-20-2006, 11:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
Snelly40 Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 2,449 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? haha, wow, i know they are tough but im just not a uge fan so i didnt vote, call it biased but that is amazing that he survived on ur floor like that __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society* In Hoc Signo Vinces

07-20-2006, 12:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,632 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? Triggers are tough enough to withstand the torture of cycling tanks. Back in the day, it was a fairly common practice to use them instead of damnsels... __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

07-20-2006, 02:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
reefjitsu Plate Coral Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The Magic City Posts: 742 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? Lionfish, morays, triggers are probably the most hardy. A word of caution about "predator" tanks: Choose your livestock very carefully. Often people mean aggressive or territorial when they talk about setting up a predator tank. They are looking for "tough-guy" fish. Many of the large predatory fish that are common to this hobby are not all that aggressive. When put in a tank with a territorial or aggressive fish, they end up being harrassed, stressed and dead. __________________ You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You got to keep on hoping and cover your ears and go "blah blah blah blah"- Futurama

07-20-2006, 02:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Splendid Midas Blenny Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 109 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? are panther groupers okay cause that is what i have!(malibureefer is my dad!)

07-20-2006, 03:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
Boomer Reef Sanctuary's Mr. Wizard Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Duluth, Minnesota Posts: 2,072 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? Yes, they do fine. I just posted that and a Lion on the other thread. Triggers can be very agressive __________________ Boomer Want to Talk Chemistry ! The Reef Chemistry Forum Want to See More ! The Coral Realm If you See Me Running You Better Catch-Up An explosion can be defined as a loud noise, accompanied by the sudden going away of things, from a place where they use to be.

07-20-2006, 03:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
reefjitsu Plate Coral Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The Magic City Posts: 742 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? Panther groupers are a great hardy fish, but they get huge! They will do best with other peaceful large predatory, but not aggressive or territorial species. Out of your list of fish, I would go with other groupers, lionfish, and maybe an eel for tankmates. __________________ You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You got to keep on hoping and cover your ears and go "blah blah blah blah"- Futurama

09-23-2006, 09:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
Splendid Midas Blenny Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 109 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? Thanks __________________ 110g reef tank 95g pred. 12g seahorse thanks, lula

09-24-2006, 12:26 AM	#13 (permalink)
cesar Bryozoan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? DAMNsels are very hardy. __________________ http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...357/cesar2.jpg

10-02-2006, 02:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
music man Midas Blenny Join Date: May 2006 Location: Olympia, WA USA Posts: 110 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? moray eel doesnt even need water they can live anywhere in mudflats or in fresh water they can eat anything from meat to fruit and grasses, they can live atleast 24 hrs without water even dried up starting to get "crunchy" (trust me I know) and make a full recovery in no time. but.. they probably also out live some owners so they are an investment that can grow to 6' in length and weigh as much as a 75lbs. then one day when everything is going well the tank is perfect the whole set up is in perfect harmony, the litle sucker dissapears for good??? where does a 15lb moray go?? I don't know he never stunk or anything they are alcatraz escape houdine artists. I think he snuck out the door and got snatched by raccoons or cats? __________________ someone always has something better! My first reef http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...music-man.html

10-04-2006, 10:37 AM	#15 (permalink)
semigodd154 Cabbage Leather Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: amsterdam ny Posts: 392 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: which fish is the hardiest? I think the panther grouper i had was bullet proof made it through ick outbreaks 2 power outages and a move def.an awesome fish but need a large tank __________________ 47g column 20x18x30 sps dominated mixed reef 250w HQI 14k approx. 1500gph flow(love you jake 9-03 to 12-03) Shaun

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