mail order brides!

[ReefLady]

wit- that is so untrue, i was a carsalesman for 6 yrs, id still be doing it if it wasnt for my dwi's. i know how much i made and i know i caould support not only myself and another but 3 or 4 more peole as well.

Do you plan on having children with this person? Try tacking on a cost of a child's wedding, and maybe a couple college educations into your plans. 2 cars, kids' clothes & all that ... I'm not sure what car salespeople make where you live, but around here, they make around $40-$60k/year (gross). That's a net of what, about $37,500.00? Our bills alone are over $30k/year, without saving a dime for college, retirement, etc. Tack on a couple car payments (which we don't have), and a extra spending, and your bills are easy $40k - $50k/year. IMO, I agree totally with Wit on this one. By far the majority of people need 2 incomes to survive.

As far as the rest of it, I can't say much more than what Nikki already said. IMO, this is all about control - the need to 'control' another person. Maybe that need for control was ingrained in you at a young age, but that doesn't make it right. Sorry if I've overstepped any lines here - I don't hate you at all, just voicing my opinion.

[Hooked]

Just tagging along

[Gina]

Katrina,
Are you sure you want to? lol

[Hooked]

Gina--it's been entertaining so far

[reefrunner]

Clint, let me ask you a question. Please answer this honestly, to yourself if no one else...

Say you find this trophy wife and she is subservient, she is everything you've described wanting in this thread. You have children, you have a daughter, are you gonna raise her in your wife's (and I use that term loosely) image? Will she be only good enough to cook and clean and "serve" her man?

I personally take a bit of offense at the "it was ingrained in me at my youth" defense, that is simply the sign of a weak person. Many have overcome what was ingrained in them as children, my father was an alcoholic wife and child abuser, yet I do not abuse my wife or children. I do not drink, often, but when I do I know when to stop, yet these were things that were ingrained in me as a child.

I think, and I know you didn't ask, that you should concern yourself with overcoming some personal issues. prior to taking on the responsibility of marriage, mail order or otherwise. I gotta wonder...DWIs (plural), seems every week I read another thread by you where there is ALOT of drama, maybe you need to look a little deeper and figure out where all the drama and neediness comes from.

[mnreefman]

Originally posted by ReefLady
Do you plan on having children with this person?

reeflady, no i dont want kids...

[i]Oringonally posted by reefrunner]
I personally take a bit of offense at the "it was ingrained in me at my youth" defense, that is simply the sign of a weak person.

ahhhhh so your saying your not a product of your environment... obviously some beliefs and morals happen from your surroundings.

i ALSO want to point out this tread was just meant for info yall are asking me why, and i am telling you, dont go bashing me cuz i have different morals and beliefs..... wow i felt the knife piercing when i read nikkis post, and im sure mine irkd someone out there, but i have stated many many times this isnt meant to offend anyone and i am truely sry if it did.

Origonally posted by NaH2O
What a sad sad sad thing to contemplate. Why not just hire a maid service, a chef, and a Wh.... - same service and cost, right?

actually no, youd hafta keep paying for thoes services

reefrunner lets say HYPOTHETICALLY i were to have a daughter ( i will never have kids and i mean it).. i would raise her the best way i could, and she would be free to do what ever pleases her and made her happy. if it meant staying at home fine, if it meant going out to work fine, BUT MY WIFE WILL NOT WORK. and she will be russian.
. ( i can see my image here is now tarnished, by askin a simple question.)

also reefrunner its not like i am doing this right now, i simply asked here and another board if anyone has done this so i can get information about it.

nikki i never said you were stupid, i can see how intelegent you are by the many posts here and our chats in the chat room.

Origionally posted by ScottT1980
It sounds to me that you more or less want a puppet to "train," or more or less, a slave that is allowed to go out and buy things now on then (at your discretion of course)

nope not looking for a pupet or anything like that. and no if she could go shopping when ever she wants, spend as much as she wants, buy what ever she wants.

Mike, im not talking bout slavery..... yall think id keep em cooped up in the house all day... heck no, go out do what you want except work. i dont care as long as the house is clean and i have a nice hot meal waiting for me when i get home.

anyway, like i said earlier i was looking for info, i got enough on my plate now, i would never do this until i could.


yes reefrunner i live a fast paced life. always have, however i am now sober, wont pick up the **** no more, and all this drama huh wtf you talking bout. this isnt dramma... if it is to you, then man you live a boring life, we just discussing stuff. let me see what have i posted here that was drama.... umm a best freind of 24 yrs dying, a ex fiancee from 2 yrs ago who is more ****ed up in the head than i dont know what.... where are you getting all this dramma from.... puhleze.......


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[NaH2O]

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I'm up....

nikki i never said you were stupid

I didn't mean for you to interpret that as you calling me stupid....I was making a statement that if your "wife" is intelligent she is going to make decisions and statements that will lead to independence (which you stated you want a woman dependant on you)....independent thinking and actions.

go out do what you want except work. i dont care as long as the house is clean and i have a nice hot meal waiting for me when i get home.

Hmmmm.....I'm American and I do these things.....

she could go shopping when ever she wants, spend as much as she wants, buy what ever she wants.

Careful....that is asking for trouble...you'll be broke before you know it!

the following quote is regarding my statement about just getting a maid, chef, and prostitute
actually no, youd hafta keep paying for thoes services

My only comment to this..... SEE THE QUOTE DIRECTLY ABOVE....if you let your "wife" go out and spend as much as she wants whenever she wants...it may cost you more.

My opinion on the whole mail order bride system.....these are women that are getting to be too old to be prostitues in their contries of origin, so they are getting sold to American men as slaves.

[Crakeur]

I'm all for it.

you can get one now, when she is in her 20's. When she gets old and ugly you can simply divorce her. She has her citizenship and some cash, which is what she will want (you will lose a ton in the divorce as she will claim she uprooted her whole life and moved halfway around the world for you) and then you can go and order a newer, younger version.

Perhaps you can lease them.

I think I just came up with a new business. Mail order bride rentals.

If you are really serious about this, I suggest doing some research (not on a reef board, that's just funny) and see if you can get a hole of some people who bought their sla, I mean brides. See if they are happy still. See what kind of problems they have etc.

Asking for advice on the topic on a reef board is going to get you grief from all those opinionated, needy, overly emotional, napoleonic women.

<insert big friggin smiley face here>

[mnreefman]

Originally posted by NaH2O
I'm up....



if your "wife" is intelligent she is going to make decisions and statements that will lead to independence (which you stated you want a woman dependant on you)....independent thinking and actions.




Careful....that is asking for trouble...you'll be broke before you know it!


My opinion on the whole mail order bride system.....these are women that are getting to be too old to be prostitues in their contries of origin, so they are getting sold to American men as slaves.

bring it nikki


now its my turn to ask you all a question, i have done alot of reaserch into this and i am currious do you know this all entails? do you thik i go over there and say ummmm your the one then bingo bongo bango it is done.... cuz that isnt how the system works btw

[reefrunner]

yes reefrunner i live a fast paced life. always have, however i am now sober, wont pick up the **** no more,

Good luck to you.

I do have one more question, why did you post this question on a reef board? I just did a google search using mail order brides and the search terms and came up with 10 pages of hits.

[mnreefman]

Originally posted by Crakeur
If you are really serious about this, I suggest doing some research (not on a reef board, that's just funny) and see if you can get a hole of some people who bought their sla, I mean brides. See if they are happy still. See what kind of problems they have etc.

Asking for advice on the topic on a reef board is going to get you grief from all those opinionated, needy, overly emotional, napoleonic women.

<insert big friggin smiley face here>

lol Crak , yes i have been in contact with alot of people who have done this and i am actually chating with a few ladies who came to the us like this. i just figured id post here cuz ya never know whos looking in...

[mnreefman]

Originally posted by reefrunner
Good luck to you.

I do have one more question, why did you post this question on a reef board? I just did a google search using mail order brides and the search terms and came up with 10 pages of hits.

i was asking for personal expeiances, i did that too, and read em all, but i wanted a personal expieriance, good or bad,

[NaH2O]

grief from all those opinionated, needy, overly emotional, napoleonic women.

LOL....I'll agree I'm opinionated & I'm giving grief, but hey...I'm American. I don't see that I'm needy (that title should go to someone contemplating buying a wife), overly emotional (Ummm....maybe a few days a month ), napoleonic...hmmm....I'll have to consider that

i have done alot of reaserch into this and i am currious do you know this all entails? do you thik i go over there and say ummmm your the one then bingo bongo bango it is done.... cuz that isnt how the system works btw

You know....I really haven't the faintest idea how the system works, nor do I care. I'm just giving my opinions on the matter, just as you wanted to give your opinion about buying a Russian woman to take care of you. It's all good, Clint! Be sure to let us know when the big day is!!

[Witfull]

Clint, i truly think you can find this kind of woman anywhere, we have a gazillion around here...we call them princesses. but remember, if this woman is using you to get to America, once she is here and has what she wants, what is to stop her from looking to trade up? as i see it mail order brides are not looking for love, they have one motive, USA. if you are serious about this be sure you are prepared for what may come down the road. you may find a great woman, but you could find heartbreak. maybe you just need a change of scenery. to quote Jimmy Buffet- change in lattitude, change in attitude!

[Curtswearing]

Okay....let's calm down a bit.

Clint,

I have no personal experience. However, I also know you have really been hit hard recently. I know you miss your ex-wife's kids and I'm sure that weighs on you and I'm sure you are feeling lonely after losing your best friend recently.

However, a mail order bride isn't going to make it all better. I'm sorry. I wish I could wave a magic wand and make your hurts disappear but I can't.

I know single women who would love to get married, quit their jobs, and stay home and take care of their husbands. (Or at least they think that's what they want while they are single and working). There is an important distinction----they will at least feel fulfilled at doing this. They are doing it because they "want" to. Isn't that better than because they "have" to.

Take your time, let your recent wounds heal, work on your own life, get to love yourself. Not only will you be happier, you might attract someone who would love to do what you desire. A marriage is an equal union and no one can be in control or it isn't a real marriage.

Think about it this way. There have been times when something awesome (or horrible) happened to me. However, it wasn't a complete experience until I told my wife and a few close friends because their thoughts (and emotions) were extremely important to me. It would be so empty if my wife and/or friends responded with, "your dinner will be ready in 10 minutes"