OT: The big swap - Page 5

sasquatch · 11-16-2007, 07:43 PM

Thats way happier now, i think this will be the first "complete" designer system ive ever seen, happy reefing Robert, its not like you didn't wait long enough or do the research

Frankie · 11-16-2007, 09:39 PM

I really like this tank! Robert, I see you opt out of drilling it so far for a closed loop. I am curious if this predicts the corals you will be keeping or adding power heads. Are you going for the sps garden or a mixed tank?
I really like the overflow also. This is going to be a fun tank to watch over time!

vdituri · 11-16-2007, 09:41 PM

Is drilling still an option with the crystal glass?

goldenmean · 11-17-2007, 12:29 AM

Man that is sweeter than sweet.
Just amazing!

Frankie · 11-17-2007, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdituri

Is drilling still an option with the crystal glass?

It is if it hasn't been tempered. But i would assume Booze would have had it drilled by Elos considering the cost of such an aquarium. I don't think that is in his plans.

mps9506 · 11-17-2007, 01:21 AM

Guess by Boozes signature I'm gonna guess he will have 2xVortechs and 2xTunzes for circulation

Now there is a video somewhere of another guy with an Elos 120 I believe with 2 vortechs facing each other at opposite ends of the tank and has the controller set up to where he got a pretty cool wave action going in his tank....
Any thoughts on that booze?

vdituri · 11-17-2007, 02:56 AM

I need to do some research.
Tempered crystal?
Is it swarovski?
How much more Nasa research can we cram into our tanks? lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

It is if it hasn't been tempered. But i would assume Booze would have had it drilled by Elos considering the cost of such an aquarium. I don't think that is in his plans.

Woodstock · 11-17-2007, 07:33 AM

Is it wet yet!!!???????

Man that system is going to ROCK!! I can hardly wait...

boozeman · 11-17-2007, 09:36 AM

thanks again guys...early on in my plans I had opted not to go with a closed loop. This was done in order to maintain the clean lines of the tank. I knew that the wireless controllers for the vortecs were being developed . The biotopus has firmware to control tunze as well. I believe this combination to be better suited for my plans.. The power heads can be easily hidden without leaving the visible holes along the back wall that a closed loop would've had. As mike noted in my sig. two vortechs, two tunzes and two Red Dragons will give me a heck of a lot of flow!
The tank will have a lot of sps...but I do like rics and zoas too, so I may have to tone down the flow a bit

sorry to dissapoint but now is a very busy time of year at work (thanksgiving+christmas+newyears = booze) so it may be still a lil longer before it gets wet

goldenmean · 11-17-2007, 10:58 AM

Quote:

it may be still a lil longer before it gets wet

We wil be waiting. . . . as patiently as possible. . .
. . . . . . just dont take as long as Big Al!

lcstorc · 11-17-2007, 11:03 AM

We've waited this long. What's a few more months? Why not start cycling the rock though? Then you will be ready when you have more time.

BEELZEBOB · 11-17-2007, 11:06 AM

ah man this tank is gonna be sweet Boozie!!!

im red (and green) with envy!!

But, now what are you gonna get for christmas?

Woodstock · 11-17-2007, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boozeman

....sorry to dissapoint but now is a very busy time of year at work (thanksgiving+christmas+newyears = booze) so it may be still a lil longer before it gets wet

I'll drink to that!!

sasquatch · 11-17-2007, 02:26 PM

Boozie? can you ask elos what exactly the glass is they use, seems to be quite a difference between crystal and starfire?

Quote from a glass manufacturer

What is Crystal Glass?

Crystal (high quality glass), according to EU definition, must have an index of refraction of at least 1.520 and a density of at least 2.45kg/l. Lead crystal must contain lead oxide to a level of at least ten percent. Other glass used for stemware can also contain oxides of potassium, zinc or barium.

Lead glass is potassium silicate glass which has been impregnated with lead oxide (from 10% to 28% by weight) in its fabrication. In the case of stemware and decorative glass the goal of the lead is twofold. To increase the refractive index of the glass, and thus its lustre, or sparkle and to soften the glass to enable cutting for decoration
Lead oxide added to the molten glass which gives lead crystal a much higher index of refraction than normal glass, and consequently much greater "sparkle".

Common glass contains about 70% silicon dioxide (silica), which is the same chemical compound found in quartz, and its polycrystalline form, sand.

For non-lead crystal, pure silica has a melting point of about 2000 °C (3600 °F), and while it can be made into glass for special applications, two other substances are always added to common glass to simplify processing. One is soda (sodium carbonate), or potash (potassium carbonate), which lowers the melting point to about 1000 °C (1800 °F). However, the soda makes the glass water-soluble, which is usually undesirable, so lime (calcium oxide) is the third component, added to restore insolubility. The resulting glass contains about 70% silica and is called a soda-lime glass. Soda-lime glasses account for about 90% of manufactured glass worldwide.
Boron may be added to change the thermal and electrical properties, as in Pyrex. Adding barium instead of lead increases the refractive index in a similar way to lead.

boozeman · 11-17-2007, 02:43 PM

I can answer that Steve..starphire is an actual trade marked name belonging to PPG. Crystal is the European equivalent....but just in case there is more to it, I will ask

11-16-2007, 07:43 PM	#61 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: OT: The big swap Thats way happier now, i think this will be the first "complete" designer system ive ever seen, happy reefing Robert, its not like you didn't wait long enough or do the research __________________ castawayreefers.com

11-16-2007, 09:39 PM	#62 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,556 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: OT: The big swap I really like this tank! Robert, I see you opt out of drilling it so far for a closed loop. I am curious if this predicts the corals you will be keeping or adding power heads. Are you going for the sps garden or a mixed tank? I really like the overflow also. This is going to be a fun tank to watch over time! __________________ If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

11-16-2007, 09:41 PM	#63 (permalink)
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mps9506 Totally stoked dude Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,518 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: OT: The big swap Guess by Boozes signature I'm gonna guess he will have 2xVortechs and 2xTunzes for circulation Now there is a video somewhere of another guy with an Elos 120 I believe with 2 vortechs facing each other at opposite ends of the tank and has the controller set up to where he got a pretty cool wave action going in his tank.... Any thoughts on that booze? __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

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11-17-2007, 09:36 AM	#69 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: OT: The big swap thanks again guys...early on in my plans I had opted not to go with a closed loop. This was done in order to maintain the clean lines of the tank. I knew that the wireless controllers for the vortecs were being developed . The biotopus has firmware to control tunze as well. I believe this combination to be better suited for my plans.. The power heads can be easily hidden without leaving the visible holes along the back wall that a closed loop would've had. As mike noted in my sig. two vortechs, two tunzes and two Red Dragons will give me a heck of a lot of flow! The tank will have a lot of sps...but I do like rics and zoas too, so I may have to tone down the flow a bit sorry to dissapoint but now is a very busy time of year at work (thanksgiving+christmas+newyears = booze) so it may be still a lil longer before it gets wet __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

11-17-2007, 11:03 AM	#71 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,930 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: OT: The big swap We've waited this long. What's a few more months? Why not start cycling the rock though? Then you will be ready when you have more time. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

11-17-2007, 02:26 PM	#74 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: OT: The big swap Boozie? can you ask elos what exactly the glass is they use, seems to be quite a difference between crystal and starfire? Quote from a glass manufacturer What is Crystal Glass? Crystal (high quality glass), according to EU definition, must have an index of refraction of at least 1.520 and a density of at least 2.45kg/l. Lead crystal must contain lead oxide to a level of at least ten percent. Other glass used for stemware can also contain oxides of potassium, zinc or barium. Lead glass is potassium silicate glass which has been impregnated with lead oxide (from 10% to 28% by weight) in its fabrication. In the case of stemware and decorative glass the goal of the lead is twofold. To increase the refractive index of the glass, and thus its lustre, or sparkle and to soften the glass to enable cutting for decoration Lead oxide added to the molten glass which gives lead crystal a much higher index of refraction than normal glass, and consequently much greater "sparkle". Common glass contains about 70% silicon dioxide (silica), which is the same chemical compound found in quartz, and its polycrystalline form, sand. For non-lead crystal, pure silica has a melting point of about 2000 °C (3600 °F), and while it can be made into glass for special applications, two other substances are always added to common glass to simplify processing. One is soda (sodium carbonate), or potash (potassium carbonate), which lowers the melting point to about 1000 °C (1800 °F). However, the soda makes the glass water-soluble, which is usually undesirable, so lime (calcium oxide) is the third component, added to restore insolubility. The resulting glass contains about 70% silica and is called a soda-lime glass. Soda-lime glasses account for about 90% of manufactured glass worldwide. Boron may be added to change the thermal and electrical properties, as in Pyrex. Adding barium instead of lead increases the refractive index in a similar way to lead. __________________ castawayreefers.com

11-17-2007, 02:43 PM	#75 (permalink)
boozeman The CodFather ~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: new york Posts: 8,800 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: OT: The big swap I can answer that Steve..starphire is an actual trade marked name belonging to PPG. Crystal is the European equivalent....but just in case there is more to it, I will ask __________________ ...and when I'm old and wise little things mean little to me like autumn winds they'll blow right through me and someday, in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me remember that you were a friend of mine

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