in floor tank - Page 2

funkpolice · 01-21-2009, 06:52 PM

I think a "u" shaped tank would be pretty sweet.

leahski · 01-21-2009, 09:11 PM

why not do just a cool cube tank/coffee table? it seems like it could be easier... plus, who is really going to be able to enjoy it that much if its sunken into the floor? the best view of a tank is from the side.

whatever you decide on, pictures pictures pictures!

dianezoo · 01-21-2009, 10:08 PM

Unless you give her an indoor koy pond which would much easier.
However cant you imagine a shallow round pool with and couple of lion fishes, but no live corals that would require too much in the way of lights etc.
I like your wifes vision.

Jeremy0322 · 01-21-2009, 10:27 PM

I think the idea is awesome, but in all reality it would be super difficult to pull off properly. The lighting alone would be almost impossible, but if you can pull it off it may be one of the coolest tanks out there. I like the idea better of having the huge cylinder in a room, i have seen those before and they are stunning...but dont give up on the floor idea either, atleast not until you are 100% sure it cant be done. The only thing I worry about it trying it off and not being able to pull it off properly, then over the long run it would just fall apart i guess. That is what would worry me.

reefs reefs · 02-27-2009, 11:35 PM

plus even if it goes into the floor how would you make the correct water movement that it is going to need with out rippling the surface water. If that happens then you will not be able to see a thing.

sasquatch · 02-28-2009, 01:12 AM

Congrats on a great idea, a thought for you. Imagine a lighting system that drops from the ceiling and is on during your off hours, you could side light the tank for your actual viewing hours, and Im sure with a custom designed reflector you could actually " bend " the light into the tank from the sides. Good luck with your project.Sas

Jeremy0322 · 02-28-2009, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by reefs reefs

plus even if it goes into the floor how would you make the correct water movement that it is going to need with out rippling the surface water. If that happens then you will not be able to see a thing.

Air could be injected into the water, and then powerheads for movement, and you could have a completely undisturbed surface I suppose. I still dont think its possible to do this setup as a reef though, too many challenges in my opinion

newreefguy · 03-30-2009, 02:40 AM

That would be extremely sweet.... but I'm with erawling on this one though,as nice as that would be it does seem a bit impractical. That's an extremely large amount of water to change.... every other week. I think whatever you decide , WE WANT PICS. :-)

Amnestia · 03-30-2009, 03:02 AM

Actually to be able to see what's in the tank all you have to really get past is the surface layer. Design the tank so that the viewing top of the glass is submerged just half an inch or so below the waters surface. Similar to those small viewing boxes you see at fish stores and such. Have a metal halide built into this glass viewing top and you're set. You can have the water overflowing the sides of the tank (so the tank itself is one huge overflow) and have a glass tray or such underneath the tank that collects the water. Let me get a drawing going!

So the red things are lights, there might be a glare but if there is you can always situate the lights right against the glass which would prevent glare from the side and if the angles are right you can still get a great mid-area for viewing.

Jeremy0322 · 03-30-2009, 04:03 AM

Its still my opinion that this is far more money than its worth. For the cost of something like this you could set up a normal tank that was twice the size for probably around the same cost.

Luukosian · 03-30-2009, 04:23 AM

Don't have any opinion on peta's argument on this video but thought this in floor tank was neat....even though I'm sure it freaked the fish out having loud music and people dancing on the top.

LiveLeak.com - PETA asks club to change aquarium dance floor

Amnestia · 03-30-2009, 06:27 PM

poor fish...

Clownfish518 · 03-30-2009, 06:34 PM

I don't see how it will work. TO get a decent view of the tank, the glass would have to touch the surface of the water. That will seriously impede gas exchange. I bet the glass would encrust with algae, and get scratched if people walked on it over time. How do you access to do maintenance?

Sounds cool; I doubt the feasibility

ShootMe · 03-31-2009, 04:56 PM

I saw this done before on reefcentral once. The guy was in Portugal and the tank was outside and was lit by the sun. From what I remember he had it as a full blown sps reef. He set it up so the tank was in the ground but the water was pumped to a support room he had built outside which was where he preformed the water changes and where the equipment was located.

Opsanus tau · 04-12-2009, 09:36 AM

This is do-able, and yes the water would need to be touching the glass.
The tank could be built like an "L", with the horizontal part of the "L" being the tank, and the vertical part, acting as a snorkel/access area/gas exchange.

The top part could be in another room, and would have to be large, but could be viewed as a whole separate "cube" tank in a separate room or something.
You may need to build it like a "U" with two access areas, (one on either side).

Never say never
-Crazy Dave

01-21-2009, 06:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
funkpolice Reef Lobster Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Orland Park IL Posts: 1,396 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank I think a "u" shaped tank would be pretty sweet.

01-21-2009, 09:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
leahski Cabbage Leather Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: GR, Michigan Posts: 383 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank why not do just a cool cube tank/coffee table? it seems like it could be easier... plus, who is really going to be able to enjoy it that much if its sunken into the floor? the best view of a tank is from the side. whatever you decide on, pictures pictures pictures! __________________ Tori sharks are friends, not souvenirs! 8 gallons of salty goodness! The NANO club!

01-21-2009, 10:08 PM	#18 (permalink)
dianezoo Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm a sun devil - Arizona Posts: 2,104 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank Unless you give her an indoor koy pond which would much easier. However cant you imagine a shallow round pool with and couple of lion fishes, but no live corals that would require too much in the way of lights etc. I like your wifes vision. __________________ Dont join dangerous cults; practice safe sects. Two 40 gal reef tanks - PC lights 90gal empty= stand canopy, 6-t5VHO lights, prisim pro and remora C skimmer, new Megaflow 2 sump waiting to be set up and have the two 40 gals dumped in. FW =125 gal community FW =55 gal African Ciclids Calico cat, Bearded Dragon

01-21-2009, 10:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jeremy0322 Tridacna maxima Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 4,753 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank I think the idea is awesome, but in all reality it would be super difficult to pull off properly. The lighting alone would be almost impossible, but if you can pull it off it may be one of the coolest tanks out there. I like the idea better of having the huge cylinder in a room, i have seen those before and they are stunning...but dont give up on the floor idea either, atleast not until you are 100% sure it cant be done. The only thing I worry about it trying it off and not being able to pull it off properly, then over the long run it would just fall apart i guess. That is what would worry me. __________________ UNCW 2011 -Marine Biology Major -Oceanography Minor The old 90 Gallon Build r.i.p Only after the last tree's cut And the last river poisoned Only after the last fish is caught Will you find that money cannot be eaten....

02-27-2009, 11:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
reefs reefs Limpet Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 143 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank plus even if it goes into the floor how would you make the correct water movement that it is going to need with out rippling the surface water. If that happens then you will not be able to see a thing. __________________ 120 gallon reef tank/t-5 lighting 100 gallon refug in line to a 30 gallon filtration tank euro reef skimmer 2 #4 koralia powerhead red sea wave maker 2 150 watt. MH 10 gallon frag tank 20 gallon RO collection tank RO water filter Who ever said that age was a factor.

02-28-2009, 01:12 AM	#21 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,981 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: in floor tank Congrats on a great idea, a thought for you. Imagine a lighting system that drops from the ceiling and is on during your off hours, you could side light the tank for your actual viewing hours, and Im sure with a custom designed reflector you could actually " bend " the light into the tank from the sides. Good luck with your project.Sas

03-30-2009, 02:40 AM	#23 (permalink)
newreefguy Scopas Tang Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: asheville, Nc Posts: 407 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: in floor tank That would be extremely sweet.... but I'm with erawling on this one though,as nice as that would be it does seem a bit impractical. That's an extremely large amount of water to change.... every other week. I think whatever you decide , WE WANT PICS. :-)

03-30-2009, 03:02 AM	#24 (permalink)
Amnestia Star Polyps Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 153 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank Actually to be able to see what's in the tank all you have to really get past is the surface layer. Design the tank so that the viewing top of the glass is submerged just half an inch or so below the waters surface. Similar to those small viewing boxes you see at fish stores and such. Have a metal halide built into this glass viewing top and you're set. You can have the water overflowing the sides of the tank (so the tank itself is one huge overflow) and have a glass tray or such underneath the tank that collects the water. Let me get a drawing going! So the red things are lights, there might be a glare but if there is you can always situate the lights right against the glass which would prevent glare from the side and if the angles are right you can still get a great mid-area for viewing. __________________ upgraded to a 200gal system, let the fun begin

03-30-2009, 04:03 AM	#25 (permalink)
Jeremy0322 Tridacna maxima Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 4,753 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank Its still my opinion that this is far more money than its worth. For the cost of something like this you could set up a normal tank that was twice the size for probably around the same cost. __________________ UNCW 2011 -Marine Biology Major -Oceanography Minor The old 90 Gallon Build r.i.p Only after the last tree's cut And the last river poisoned Only after the last fish is caught Will you find that money cannot be eaten....

03-30-2009, 04:23 AM	#26 (permalink)
Luukosian Plate Coral Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Burlington, IA Posts: 735 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank Don't have any opinion on peta's argument on this video but thought this in floor tank was neat....even though I'm sure it freaked the fish out having loud music and people dancing on the top. LiveLeak.com - PETA asks club to change aquarium dance floor __________________ -Anthony

03-30-2009, 06:27 PM	#27 (permalink)
Amnestia Star Polyps Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 153 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank poor fish... __________________ upgraded to a 200gal system, let the fun begin

03-30-2009, 06:34 PM	#28 (permalink)
Clownfish518 Razorback Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bentonville, Arkansas Posts: 1,543 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank I don't see how it will work. TO get a decent view of the tank, the glass would have to touch the surface of the water. That will seriously impede gas exchange. I bet the glass would encrust with algae, and get scratched if people walked on it over time. How do you access to do maintenance? Sounds cool; I doubt the feasibility __________________ Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem - William of Ockham

03-31-2009, 04:56 PM	#29 (permalink)
ShootMe Tubeworm Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North carolina Posts: 32 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank I saw this done before on reefcentral once. The guy was in Portugal and the tank was outside and was lit by the sun. From what I remember he had it as a full blown sps reef. He set it up so the tank was in the ground but the water was pumped to a support room he had built outside which was where he preformed the water changes and where the equipment was located.

04-12-2009, 09:36 AM	#30 (permalink)
Opsanus tau Midas Blenny Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Keys Posts: 91 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: in floor tank This is do-able, and yes the water would need to be touching the glass. The tank could be built like an "L", with the horizontal part of the "L" being the tank, and the vertical part, acting as a snorkel/access area/gas exchange. The top part could be in another room, and would have to be large, but could be viewed as a whole separate "cube" tank in a separate room or something. You may need to build it like a "U" with two access areas, (one on either side). Never say never -Crazy Dave

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