Battling man eating bryopsis. Who is winning? - Page 3

Woodstock · 11-25-2003, 04:20 PM

I orderded phosban!

Thanks!

dgasmd · 11-25-2003, 08:58 PM

Let me say before someone even suggests it. I have no link in any way, shape, or form to Julian Sprung, his company, or product other than being a consumer like you. I mentioned this one in particular by brand simply because it is the one I used. I suspect any good phosphate removing media would give the same results.

Also, I had different results as far as the caulerpa goes. Mine pulled a complete stop in growth. I can tell my phosban needs replacing because my refugium just started to take off again.

Curtswearing · 11-25-2003, 09:00 PM

I really don't think anyone thought you were commercially exploiting this board. You're among friends here.

Hooked · 11-26-2003, 10:22 AM

I really wish I had taken some before pix of my bryopsis. It continues to diminish rapidly. Again, I'm only supplementing magnesium.

My tank parameters are:

SG 1.025 (refractometer)
pH 8.20+ in p.m. (monitor)
CA 420
Alk 16
Mag 1276
Ammonia 0
Traces of phospates and nitrates

I know the alk is high, but that was one of the recommended fixes for bryopsis. It's been that high for about three weeks and had no effect. I also do 10% water changes weekly.

I have a 20 gal that has some bryopsis also ( I moved pieces with bryopsis on them from 90 gal to 20 gal) I'm going to try magnesium supplementation in it and I did take some before pix.

mojoreef · 11-26-2003, 10:58 AM

sounds good hooked, keep us informed.

mike

Curtswearing · 12-02-2003, 03:36 PM

As I mentioned, I have only used Rowaphos. Regardless of which product, please put a review in the review section.

Hooked · 01-06-2004, 10:01 AM

I'm going to resurrect this thread because I just realized that I do have a before photo of the bryopsis.

The alk levels were high (16dKh) when this was taken, but I had not yet started to increase the magnesium level.

The BTA is the focal point of the photo, but it still shows the nice, healthy, thriving clumps of bryopsis surrounding it.

Hooked · 01-06-2004, 10:07 AM

This photo was taken after I had increased the magnesiun level to ~1500. The BTA also subsequently split as shown in this photo.

I have no idea if the increased alk and mag levels caused the split

I noticed Saturday that a little bryopsis was again sprouting up around the BTA and checked my levels--the alk was down to 11 and the magnesium had dropped to 1245, so I'm working on raising them again. Will let you know what happens.

Maxx · 01-06-2004, 01:21 PM

Katrina,
Wow...the picture says it all......thanks for the images they really prove the point.
Nick

Brucey · 01-06-2004, 01:43 PM

Hey guys .... all great info. I too had my tank up and runnin for a year and last month starting getting red slime algae all over my rocks and sand. A quick trip my LFS and £40 lighter in my pocket, I too came home with some ROWAPhos. The best way to add it to your system is if you have a spare external power filter and stick it in there. It is expensive but lasts 3-4 months depending on your phosphate levels. My red slime algae .... dsiappeared in 7 days. I'm converted and will never go without it again.

Great thread

Brucey

jumpincactus · 05-15-2006, 03:37 AM

Curtswearing, your tank is not the only tank to have your corals respond negatively to aluminum based phosphate removers. There have been a few studies that show that aluminum is not well recieved by our corals. Both RowaPhos and Phosban were tested side by side and hands down the test showed negative reactions of corals and inverts not liking aluminum.

I use RowaPhos with great results. People save your valuable time and elbow grease and just spend the dinero and use the Rowa. Will give you more time to enjoy your tank rather then tearing your rocks out and scrubbing them. There is a downside to Rowa and that is it has been shown to affect the Ph in the water. It will on some occasions lower your PH but in knowing that upfront you can prepare to do what you have to do to raise it again.

I believe as it has been stated earlier in this thread, that as soon as they market it more and it becomes more available Rowa will come down in price....... For those of you who want to read the research on the testing of phosban and rowaphos I do not have the link but I know if you search either reefkeeping magazine or the advanced aquarist online you will find the articles.....

11-25-2003, 04:20 PM	#31 (permalink)
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11-25-2003, 08:58 PM	#32 (permalink)
dgasmd Scopas Tang Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 466 View Gallery Karma Komment	Let me say before someone even suggests it. I have no link in any way, shape, or form to Julian Sprung, his company, or product other than being a consumer like you. I mentioned this one in particular by brand simply because it is the one I used. I suspect any good phosphate removing media would give the same results. Also, I had different results as far as the caulerpa goes. Mine pulled a complete stop in growth. I can tell my phosban needs replacing because my refugium just started to take off again. __________________ Water is what keeps a ship floating, but it is also what sinks it.

11-25-2003, 09:00 PM	#33 (permalink)
Curtswearing Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,596 View Gallery Karma Komment	I really don't think anyone thought you were commercially exploiting this board. You're among friends here. __________________ In memory of Fluffy, please pause before hitting enter---being nice is free. Click for ReefKeeping FAQ'S Click for Product Reviews Click for Photo ID Gallery http://curtcpapfs.com/downloads/1Curt.jpg

11-26-2003, 10:22 AM	#34 (permalink)
Hooked Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 287 View Gallery Karma Komment	I really wish I had taken some before pix of my bryopsis. It continues to diminish rapidly. Again, I'm only supplementing magnesium. My tank parameters are: SG 1.025 (refractometer) pH 8.20+ in p.m. (monitor) CA 420 Alk 16 Mag 1276 Ammonia 0 Traces of phospates and nitrates I know the alk is high, but that was one of the recommended fixes for bryopsis. It's been that high for about three weeks and had no effect. I also do 10% water changes weekly. I have a 20 gal that has some bryopsis also ( I moved pieces with bryopsis on them from 90 gal to 20 gal) I'm going to try magnesium supplementation in it and I did take some before pix. __________________ Katrina 90 Gal AGA with 2-250W 10k AB DE MH, 220W VHO, Turboflotor 1000, GEO calcium reactor, Pacific Coast chiller, DIY phosphate reactor and nilsen kalk reactor, sps, clams, zoanthids, rose BTA, ocellaris clown, 2 green mandarins, royal gramma, purple tang, sargassum trigger, flame hawkfish, coral beauty, neon dottyback, purple and blue linckia star, brittlestars, snails, snails, snails

11-26-2003, 10:58 AM	#35 (permalink)
mojoreef Just a reefer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,176 View Gallery Karma Komment	sounds good hooked, keep us informed. mike __________________ Make sure you check out The Fish Gallery The Coral Gallery The Equipment Gallery

12-02-2003, 03:36 PM	#36 (permalink)
Curtswearing Golden Moray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,596 View Gallery Karma Komment	As I mentioned, I have only used Rowaphos. Regardless of which product, please put a review in the review section. __________________ In memory of Fluffy, please pause before hitting enter---being nice is free. Click for ReefKeeping FAQ'S Click for Product Reviews Click for Photo ID Gallery http://curtcpapfs.com/downloads/1Curt.jpg

01-06-2004, 10:01 AM	#37 (permalink)
Hooked Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 287 View Gallery Karma Komment	I'm going to resurrect this thread because I just realized that I do have a before photo of the bryopsis. The alk levels were high (16dKh) when this was taken, but I had not yet started to increase the magnesium level. The BTA is the focal point of the photo, but it still shows the nice, healthy, thriving clumps of bryopsis surrounding it. __________________ Katrina 90 Gal AGA with 2-250W 10k AB DE MH, 220W VHO, Turboflotor 1000, GEO calcium reactor, Pacific Coast chiller, DIY phosphate reactor and nilsen kalk reactor, sps, clams, zoanthids, rose BTA, ocellaris clown, 2 green mandarins, royal gramma, purple tang, sargassum trigger, flame hawkfish, coral beauty, neon dottyback, purple and blue linckia star, brittlestars, snails, snails, snails

01-06-2004, 10:07 AM	#38 (permalink)
Hooked Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 287 View Gallery Karma Komment	This photo was taken after I had increased the magnesiun level to ~1500. The BTA also subsequently split as shown in this photo. I have no idea if the increased alk and mag levels caused the split I noticed Saturday that a little bryopsis was again sprouting up around the BTA and checked my levels--the alk was down to 11 and the magnesium had dropped to 1245, so I'm working on raising them again. Will let you know what happens. __________________ Katrina 90 Gal AGA with 2-250W 10k AB DE MH, 220W VHO, Turboflotor 1000, GEO calcium reactor, Pacific Coast chiller, DIY phosphate reactor and nilsen kalk reactor, sps, clams, zoanthids, rose BTA, ocellaris clown, 2 green mandarins, royal gramma, purple tang, sargassum trigger, flame hawkfish, coral beauty, neon dottyback, purple and blue linckia star, brittlestars, snails, snails, snails

01-06-2004, 01:21 PM	#39 (permalink)
Maxx Manta Ray Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 3,079 View Gallery Karma Komment	Katrina, Wow...the picture says it all......thanks for the images they really prove the point. Nick __________________ "Chaos, confusion, despair...my work is done here." ...Some guy named Murphy.... A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!" Reef Sanctuary Knowledgebase (Answers to all your questions and then some!)

01-06-2004, 01:43 PM	#40 (permalink)
Brucey Reef Lobster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reading, England Posts: 1,292 View Gallery Karma Komment	Hey guys .... all great info. I too had my tank up and runnin for a year and last month starting getting red slime algae all over my rocks and sand. A quick trip my LFS and £40 lighter in my pocket, I too came home with some ROWAPhos. The best way to add it to your system is if you have a spare external power filter and stick it in there. It is expensive but lasts 3-4 months depending on your phosphate levels. My red slime algae .... dsiappeared in 7 days. I'm converted and will never go without it again. Great thread Brucey __________________ 160UK Gallon. (192US Gallon). 400Lbs LR. Aquamedic Turboflotor 5000 Shorty skimmer. Arcadia 3Series pendant (3x250W 14,000'K MH & 2x58W 60" actinic) (DIY cooling fan). Tunze 7095 Multicontroller & 2xTunze 6100 Streams. Redsea 100 Aquazone Plus ozonizer and redox computer. Aquamedic Ocean Runner 6500 return. TMC Vectron 30W UV sterilizer. Aquamedic Aquaniveau auto top up system through Deltec 500 kalk stirrer. PurityOnTap RO/DI. Deltec FR509 (ROWAPhos). Aquamedic PH computer controlling KNOP HD Calcium Reactor. Setup Nov 2002 See my tank here http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...&threadid=4486

05-15-2006, 03:37 AM	#41 (permalink)
jumpincactus Tunicate Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 17 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Battling man eating bryopsis. Who is winning? Curtswearing, your tank is not the only tank to have your corals respond negatively to aluminum based phosphate removers. There have been a few studies that show that aluminum is not well recieved by our corals. Both RowaPhos and Phosban were tested side by side and hands down the test showed negative reactions of corals and inverts not liking aluminum. I use RowaPhos with great results. People save your valuable time and elbow grease and just spend the dinero and use the Rowa. Will give you more time to enjoy your tank rather then tearing your rocks out and scrubbing them. There is a downside to Rowa and that is it has been shown to affect the Ph in the water. It will on some occasions lower your PH but in knowing that upfront you can prepare to do what you have to do to raise it again. I believe as it has been stated earlier in this thread, that as soon as they market it more and it becomes more available Rowa will come down in price....... For those of you who want to read the research on the testing of phosban and rowaphos I do not have the link but I know if you search either reefkeeping magazine or the advanced aquarist online you will find the articles..... __________________ Look on wifes face as she sees me standing looking at our 500,000 gallon man made lake figuring out how much salt I need to order........ Priceless

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