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Old 11-24-2003, 04:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Curt,
I've done exactly what you propose on several occassions over the years. If you are going to scrub them, I feel it's more helpful to do it outside the main system.

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Good to see you found your way over here! I got a sample of the Phosban from Sprung also and I have to admit that it made a huge difference in my tank as well. I was beginning to see all sorts of nuisance algaes pop up shortly before using it, and have always avoided the Aluminum based products like the plague. Once added, I began to notice a major difference in the system w/i a few days. Just want to note that my PO4 levels have always tested low also, giving good evidence it was helping to remove organic based PO4.

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Old 11-24-2003, 05:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Is this the same stuff?....
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...1&N=2004&Nty=1

They're sold out of the smaller containers
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:40 PM   #19 (permalink)
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That be the stuff from Two Little Fishies which is Julian Sprungs company.

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Old 11-24-2003, 05:43 PM   #20 (permalink)
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That is what I’m wondering about. My water always tests almost 0 PO4. I am assuming the calerpra in the REF and the algae’s in the tank take it up so quick I never see them.
I just ordered the Phosban. I should get it early next week. I will post my results.
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have always avoided the Aluminum based products like the plague
I'm just curious. Did the aluminum products tick off any of your corals or was that just in my tank?
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Old 11-24-2003, 05:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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It removes silicates too!!!

"This granular ferric oxide hydroxide filter media absorbs phosphates from saltwater and freshwater. Also absorbs silicates and dissolved organics. Does not leach absorbed substances and does not affect water pH. Long lasting and easy way to control phosphate levels permanently."

How much do I need for my 90 gal?
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Old 11-24-2003, 06:39 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Well there was that one time with the midget and baby oil....uh, nevermind.....I don't know nuthin....it didnt happen....you cant make me tell you.....
I almost pissed my pants when I read this.

Yes, knowledge is power my friend. I ahve always tete for phosphates with the salifert test kit and was always 0. Which makes me wonder why in the hell do they even sell these kits if what they test tells you nothing whatsoever

This stuff's direction say 150 grams (1 container) will treat 150 gal. I am over using it a little and I will change it every 8 weeks as it says. May do it more often in the future if I see any benefit.

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Glad to see it is going to come down in price. It is a brutal cost as it is now. I think a lot of it has to do with the euro exchange too. I may give a try in the future to the rowa media for Ca reactors and see how it goes. It will depend on cost, because with the size of my reactor it is hard to argue with crushed coral.

The other thing about bryopsis I learned from my experience is that it loves low water flow. My tank is currently underflowed big time for its size (yes, remedy on the works) and this stuff was growing in one half of the tank only. It is incredible because you can almost draw a straight line where it would stop growing. That was very impressive to me.
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Old 11-24-2003, 07:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Glad to be able to make your day just lil bit brighter...
BTW sometime soon I'm prolly gonna shoot you a PM on how to make an anesthesiologist trust a paramedic student in 50 words or less. All for the purpose gaining incredibly necessary, yet incredibly rare intubations for my clinicals. Evidently the students in previous classes didnt exactly inspire confidence in the Anethesia staff. Must 've found a way to leave the fly down in scrubs or something like that....
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Old 11-24-2003, 08:18 PM   #26 (permalink)
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worth a shot.....
Its not like we're taking running starts or anything...lol...altho that might be fun to watch....
Thanks anyway man,
When do we get to see pics of your tank?
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Old 11-24-2003, 08:36 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Curt no no no . I just didnt understand what you were saying. I have actually done that myself in the past. If I add a new peice of rock to the tank now that the tank is established I usually go so far as to boil it. Then it comes in just like a brand new apartment building waiting for new tennants.
Pull out a badly affected rock is a real smart thing to do. this eliminates the sporeing when you pluck, and allows you to do a better job.

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Old 11-25-2003, 03:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I'm just curious. Did the aluminum products tick off any of your corals or was that just in my tank?

It affected almost all my soft corals. The Large Lobophytum leather I had at the time, the Lg Sinularia, and the small Sarcophyton all closed solid and shed excessively during the Aluminum-based products use. These products will also affect colts and many other soft corals in the tank as well.
Since adding the Phosban (Yes, 2 Little fishies/Sprung), none of these corals have reacted as such again.

I have to agree with the 8 week change out. I am still using my original batch (10 weeks now) with no harmful affects, but I am noticing some of the minor algaes re-gaining footholds which leads me to believe the Phosban is no longer exporting PO4. I also noticed a HUGE take-off of caulerpa in the refugium after adding the Phosban. I'm assuming it has something to do with the iron in the product, but this is only pure speculation on my part for now.

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Old 11-25-2003, 04:10 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I tend to agree with you're hypothesis on the iron. I noticed that as well.
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As I mentioned in my previous post I am in the process of raising my magnesium level. I'm dosing 1 ml per gal per day as per the instruction for Kent Tech-M. I began this regimen Saturday after I had manually removed as many clumps of bryopsis as I could and done a 10% water change. Sunday it looked about the same--a few green stragglers here and there, but Monday evening much of that was gone and what was left wasn't very green.

This is probably a coincidence, but I'm going to continue on this path to see where it leads. I have some PhosBan and will use that if the bryopsis starts to bloom again.

I'll post here again to let you know if there's anything to this magnesium thing.
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