24G Nano-Cube start-up . . .

BigAl07 · 04-26-2007, 09:28 AM

I am assisting a friend and "rookie reefer" (how scarey is that.. noob helping a noob) set up his brand spanking new Nano Cube 24g tank in his office. I have a couple of questions ...

#1 When I set up my 12g DX I immediately replaced the stock pump with a MJ900 after seeing many articles about the stock pump being under powered and adding too much heat to the water. Is this also true with the 24g stock pump? What has everyone else done as far as an upgraded pump for the 24g?

#2 We added his LS (about 1 & 1/2 bags ) giving him an average depth of about 2 1/2 inches. How does that sound for the 24g ( or any tank for that matter).

#3 the LFS stated that most consumable sea-food is sprayed with a mild solution containing a bleach to kill possible bacteria (salmanilla specifically noted)... is this true? Anyone else heard of this? He says that someone killed their shark tank along with the beneficial bacteria and had to start the system from scratch (including new tank cycling). Is this just "BS" or is there some truth here?

#4 I think he's going to get some "Primo show pieces" of LR at the LFS to put into his tank until he can get some "bulk" rock ordered and here. Is there a problem with having totally cured PRIMO rock in your tank and then adding partially cured LR to it? No live-stock will be in there ( even though one of the LFS says you MUST add a couple of Damsels or Chromis to START the cycle from day TWO which I am arguing tooth and nail here).

I am suggesting he add the LR and a raw shrimp to start things off. Once he gets the bulk rock here we will place it into the tank (I would think in a week at the most) and monitor levels daily with WC every few days. Once the "Cycle" is complete then add the CUC and shortly there after add a fish and watch. Is this on the right track?

Thanks for your time and input.

Allen

blue_eyes53813 · 04-26-2007, 09:51 AM

1. Im sorry im not framiliar with the pumps for the 24 gallon.
2. sounds like a good plan. 2 1/2 inches will be a good depth. Thats about how deep my LS is in my tank.
3.Ive never heard this before. Its possible but many people feed seafood in there home made mush . Ive never heard of that problem before.
4.I agree with you 100% that he shouldnt use the live fish for cycling. Adding the cured or un cured rock to a NEW set up is fine and will kick the cycle off along with some deli shrimp.

Good Luck Al

BigAl07 · 04-27-2007, 11:01 AM

Thanks blue_eyes53813 for the input. I'll pass this information along and see where it goes from here.

Allen

KMP · 04-27-2007, 11:17 AM

1. Yes, get rid of the stock pump f/the same reason as the 12g - heat. I replaced my stock pump w/3 MJ 900s and have 3x the water movement and still less heat.
2. Good, same as I.
3. Never heard that, but common sense tells me we'd all be doing horrible if that were the case.
4. Yep, you can add the other rock after the fact. Just wait for the cycle to be complete.

lcstorc · 04-27-2007, 11:44 PM

Sounds like you have a well thought out plan. Speaking as an Aquapod owner I would replace the stock pump from the beginning. I still have mine but it is a seahorse tank so I want the low flow. If I were to try a normal reef I would definately swap it out.

PSHPAINTBALL · 05-31-2007, 08:50 PM

will a 150 watt heater work or thats to powerfull? on a 24 gallon aquapod?

BigAl07 · 06-01-2007, 08:10 AM

That's a LOT of heater but if it fits into the back chamber (not sure how long that heater is and it looks SO much better in the back chamber out of sight completely) that shouldn't be a problem.

Allen

dobejazz · 06-01-2007, 10:55 AM

I've not had a problem with the stock pump in my Nanocube 24 I don't have a heater in there either though

BigAl07 · 06-01-2007, 11:01 AM

The stock pumps do give off too much heat which is why most will elect to trade them out pretty soon. You can get a better pump (less heat, more gph ) for very minimal $$ input ( I think I paid like $14 for mine). It's a VERY good idea to have your water temp under control. If you remove all "residual" heat sources and add a heater then you can better control the water temp.

Allen

dobejazz · 06-01-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl07

The stock pumps do give off too much heat which is why most will elect to trade them out pretty soon. You can get a better pump (less heat, more gph ) for very minimal $$ input ( I think I paid like $14 for mine). It's a VERY good idea to have your water temp under control. If you remove all "residual" heat sources and add a heater then you can better control the water temp.

Allen

Temp stays stable and it's been running over 2 years now

BigAl07 · 06-01-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dobejazz

Temp stays stable and it's been running over 2 years now

Can't hardly complain about or beat that can you?

dobejazz · 06-01-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl07

Can't hardly complain about or beat that can you?

Nope I can't

so far it's been a great set up for me I did upgrade the lights about a year ago

vdituri · 06-01-2007, 12:45 PM

About the consumable seafood, I have heard about mild disinfectants of some kind being used. It was a warning about buying seafood at the grocery store to feed animals in our tanks. A bleach solution would make sense because it oxidizes and dissapates very quickly when exposed to oxygen.

Dont' remember where I read it. Sorry, best I can do.

04-26-2007, 09:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
blue_eyes53813 Hey!Its not my fault Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, Wisconsin Posts: 7,142 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 24G Nano-Cube start-up . . . 1. Im sorry im not framiliar with the pumps for the 24 gallon. 2. sounds like a good plan. 2 1/2 inches will be a good depth. Thats about how deep my LS is in my tank. 3.Ive never heard this before. Its possible but many people feed seafood in there home made mush . Ive never heard of that problem before. 4.I agree with you 100% that he shouldnt use the live fish for cycling. Adding the cured or un cured rock to a NEW set up is fine and will kick the cycle off along with some deli shrimp. Good Luck Al __________________ 265 Gallon Reef built into basement wall. Lighting = 6x250 watts MH, 2x96 watt PC ,and 2x140 watt VHO for a total watt of 1,972 watts . New addition on 4-14-07 of 100 gallon sump and 100 gallon refugium. I think I have lost my mind. Gotta love this hobby Vicki Life is like a pathway of untrodden snow. Be careful how you step in it for every mark will show Definition of FRIENDSHIP: All lives touch other lives to create something new and alive My tank chronicles. http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...wall-reef.html

04-27-2007, 11:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
KMP Torch coral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Woodland, CA Posts: 585 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 24G Nano-Cube start-up . . . 1. Yes, get rid of the stock pump f/the same reason as the 12g - heat. I replaced my stock pump w/3 MJ 900s and have 3x the water movement and still less heat. 2. Good, same as I. 3. Never heard that, but common sense tells me we'd all be doing horrible if that were the case. 4. Yep, you can add the other rock after the fact. Just wait for the cycle to be complete. __________________ Kenny 24g Aquapod, 24lb Live Rock, 28lb Live Sand, (3) MJ 900s (25.5w, 460gph), Closed Loop Circulation Nanocustoms 4.36 Series Lighting (144w), (2) 36w 10000k Daylights. (2) 36w Actinics, (1) R2 Moonlights

04-27-2007, 11:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 21,727 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 24G Nano-Cube start-up . . . Sounds like you have a well thought out plan. Speaking as an Aquapod owner I would replace the stock pump from the beginning. I still have mine but it is a seahorse tank so I want the low flow. If I were to try a normal reef I would definately swap it out. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

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dobejazz Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,246 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: 24G Nano-Cube start-up . . . I've not had a problem with the stock pump in my Nanocube 24 I don't have a heater in there either though __________________ Kelli

06-01-2007, 12:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,776 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: 24G Nano-Cube start-up . . . About the consumable seafood, I have heard about mild disinfectants of some kind being used. It was a warning about buying seafood at the grocery store to feed animals in our tanks. A bleach solution would make sense because it oxidizes and dissapates very quickly when exposed to oxygen. Dont' remember where I read it. Sorry, best I can do. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

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