Dead Pepermint?

plecosword · 05-30-2008, 11:43 PM

About a week ago, I saw my peppermint start turning white from his last shed. He was kinda white, I thought he was just going to shed again, but today I saw him acting strange an he is laying on the sand now. is he a victum on cyanide too?
does anyone have any Idea what could be going wrong?@
Here he is "Wednesday, ‎May ‎21, ‎2008"

Today

vdituri · 05-30-2008, 11:46 PM

How long have you had him?

I've read that shrimp and crabs will shed due to a build up of iodine in their systems. Shedding is the only way they can get rid of it. Are you dosing Iodine by chance?
Could have just been his time to go, but what are your latest test results?
Ammmonia
Nitrite
Nitrate
PH
etc.

plecosword · 05-30-2008, 11:46 PM

Right, my water:

Holy crap, ph is 8.8, is that too high?

wasnt that high last time!
ammonia, nitrites, nitrates are all zero

what cause my water to be that acid? could it have killed him?

No i dont add any iodine or anything

vdituri · 05-30-2008, 11:48 PM

PH can have a very bad result. I don't know enough to tell you if that is what killed your shrimp.
What kind of water are you using for topoffs? Tap, RO, RO/DI,?

plecosword · 05-30-2008, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdituri

PH can have a very bad result. I don't know enough to tell you if that is what killed your shrimp.
What kind of water are you using for topoffs? Tap, RO, RO/DI,?

RO/DI, no top off, I do have a skimmer.
what can i do to lower the PH?

vdituri · 05-30-2008, 11:55 PM

Is that the PH of newly mixed saltwater?

plecosword · 05-30-2008, 11:56 PM

what do you mean? This is the same saltmix I have been using ever since i started the tank. It from Coralife, I am running out of it though.

vdituri · 05-31-2008, 12:07 AM

Yeah, but the FW can have an affect on the SW PH right when you add it to the tank. Or even the SW can be slightly different each batch. Ever so often you should test your new SW to see what it is mixing at.
Nitrates, phosphates etc.

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdituri

Yeah, but the FW can have an affect on the SW PH right when you add it to the tank. Or even the SW can be slightly different each batch. Ever so often you should test your new SW to see what it is mixing at.
Nitrates, phosphates etc.

ohh, could it be my RO/DI Screwing up? nvm, ill go test the TDS.

vdituri · 05-31-2008, 12:10 AM

It's hard to pinpoint. Could be the RO water just has a really high PH even after RO filtering, or could be the saltwater mix has been really high all along.
Anytime you get a new bucket/box/bag of salt it is a good thing to dbl check it after it has been mixed.

vdituri · 05-31-2008, 12:13 AM

Here is another thread about high PH as well. It's going on simultaneously to yours.

high pH issues....

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 12:28 AM

she has a lot of live animals under that PH, I dont know if tha killed the peppermint.
well I found some Ph down. should I slowly start getting the PH lower?

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 12:36 AM

TDS is at 2 ppm, can't be that!

Surfnut · 05-31-2008, 12:55 AM

Sounds like a lack of Iodine to me. If memory serves, without the proper amount of iodine in the water the new shell cannot harden properly leaving them susceptible to infections and whatnot.

rlcline76 · 05-31-2008, 01:32 AM

Mario,
How long have you had the shrimp?
You never have to top off? No evaporation out your way???? I go through a gallon a day on my tanks.
I have never supplemented iodine in my tanks.

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vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,776 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? How long have you had him? I've read that shrimp and crabs will shed due to a build up of iodine in their systems. Shedding is the only way they can get rid of it. Are you dosing Iodine by chance? Could have just been his time to go, but what are your latest test results? Ammmonia Nitrite Nitrate PH etc. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

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plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,231 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? Right, my water: Holy crap, ph is 8.8, is that too high? wasnt that high last time! ammonia, nitrites, nitrates are all zero what cause my water to be that acid? could it have killed him? No i dont add any iodine or anything __________________ --M/A "Post in Peace." !!!20g for reals!!!

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vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,776 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? PH can have a very bad result. I don't know enough to tell you if that is what killed your shrimp. What kind of water are you using for topoffs? Tap, RO, RO/DI,? __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

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vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,776 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? Is that the PH of newly mixed saltwater? __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

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plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,231 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? what do you mean? This is the same saltmix I have been using ever since i started the tank. It from Coralife, I am running out of it though. __________________ --M/A "Post in Peace." !!!20g for reals!!!

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vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,776 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? Yeah, but the FW can have an affect on the SW PH right when you add it to the tank. Or even the SW can be slightly different each batch. Ever so often you should test your new SW to see what it is mixing at. Nitrates, phosphates etc. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

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vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,776 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? It's hard to pinpoint. Could be the RO water just has a really high PH even after RO filtering, or could be the saltwater mix has been really high all along. Anytime you get a new bucket/box/bag of salt it is a good thing to dbl check it after it has been mixed. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

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vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,776 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? Here is another thread about high PH as well. It's going on simultaneously to yours. high pH issues.... __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

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plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,231 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? she has a lot of live animals under that PH, I dont know if tha killed the peppermint. well I found some Ph down. should I slowly start getting the PH lower? __________________ --M/A "Post in Peace." !!!20g for reals!!!

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