Dead Pepermint? - Page 2

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 01:37 AM

well not supplementing with iodine just makes it less stressful. I had him for 2 weeks.
I do have evaporation of course, I refill with RO every 3 to 4 days, when about 1 gollon goes out.

rlcline76 · 05-31-2008, 01:42 AM

Before you fart with your pH...I would doublecheck to make sure you have the same result.

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rlcline76

Before you fart with your pH...I would doublecheck to make sure you have the same result.

hmm, seems to be kinda between 8.4 and 8.8

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 01:50 AM

8.2 under florecent light, I spoke too soon. ill do a 3rd test

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 01:53 AM

wow! 8.4 under the yellow light in my room, but in the kitchen were there is the daylight it is 8.2, so it wasnt my PH?

rlcline76 · 05-31-2008, 01:53 AM

Aaaah, speaking like I know what's what when I do not, is my favorite activity. So now we are just back to the dead shrimp being dead for the heck of it.
Did you get it from the same LFS as the other fish?

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rlcline76

Aaaah, speaking like I know what's what when I do not, is my favorite activity. So now we are just back to the dead shrimp being dead for the heck of it.
Did you get it from the same LFS as the other fish?

yes saddly. No more Tongs.

somehow, the snail and hermit i bought from them are still crawling, just a miracle.
Not even! the red hermit died mysteriously also.

rlcline76 · 05-31-2008, 02:07 AM

It's hard to kill hermit crabs.

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rlcline76

It's hard to kill hermit crabs.

they are pretty tough. Can they kill each other on fights though?

rlcline76 · 05-31-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by plecosword

they are pretty tough. Can they kill each other on fights though?

Yep.

Origami2547 · 05-31-2008, 09:06 AM

Freshly mixed saltwater is often very basic (basic is the opposite of acidic. Acidic is a pH below 7 while basic is above 7) because it is starved for CO2. That's why we typically aerate & age our freshly mixed saltwater before putting it in our displays (to let the pH stabilize). What is the salinity in your display? How often do you do a water change? Iodine is a trace element that often is not managed because suffient replenishment comes through water changes. If you do begin to dose, be sure to get a test kit. Don't dose if you can't measure.

plecosword · 05-31-2008, 01:35 PM

of course, I keep right between 1.022 and a.021. That is were its at right now.

bluespotjawfish · 05-31-2008, 02:30 PM

Sudden change in pH and/or high nitrates would be my guess. Perhaps when you did top off, it was concentrated in close proximity to him. THey don't tolerate a lower salinity like that would have caused. Iodine is important, but in the short time you had him, I doubt it was the cause of death.

jubbers · 05-31-2008, 03:17 PM

do you supplement with iodine?

lcstorc · 05-31-2008, 03:45 PM

That salinity is a bit low. I would raise it a bit. Your PH will always be lowest right before the lights come on and highest just after the lights go out so that may explain the different readings.
Here are a few great basic reef chemistry articles. If you want more go to the chemistry section and look at the stickies. There is a lot of great information there.

Chemistry and the Aquarium

Reef Aquarium Water Parameters by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com

Sounds like you have a bit of a chemistry problem which may or may not be why the shrimp died. They are at their most vunerable right after a molt so it could have been most anything.

05-31-2008, 01:37 AM	#16 (permalink)
plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,231 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? well not supplementing with iodine just makes it less stressful. I had him for 2 weeks. I do have evaporation of course, I refill with RO every 3 to 4 days, when about 1 gollon goes out. __________________ --M/A "Post in Peace." !!!20g for reals!!!

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rlcline76 Manta Ray Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,365 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Dead Pepermint? Before you fart with your pH...I would doublecheck to make sure you have the same result.

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plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,231 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? 8.2 under florecent light, I spoke too soon. ill do a 3rd test __________________ --M/A "Post in Peace." !!!20g for reals!!!

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plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,231 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? wow! 8.4 under the yellow light in my room, but in the kitchen were there is the daylight it is 8.2, so it wasnt my PH? __________________ --M/A "Post in Peace." !!!20g for reals!!!

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rlcline76 Manta Ray Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,365 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Dead Pepermint? Aaaah, speaking like I know what's what when I do not, is my favorite activity. So now we are just back to the dead shrimp being dead for the heck of it. Did you get it from the same LFS as the other fish?

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rlcline76 Manta Ray Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,365 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Dead Pepermint? It's hard to kill hermit crabs.

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Origami2547 Limpet Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ashburn, VA (near DC) Posts: 135 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Dead Pepermint? Freshly mixed saltwater is often very basic (basic is the opposite of acidic. Acidic is a pH below 7 while basic is above 7) because it is starved for CO2. That's why we typically aerate & age our freshly mixed saltwater before putting it in our displays (to let the pH stabilize). What is the salinity in your display? How often do you do a water change? Iodine is a trace element that often is not managed because suffient replenishment comes through water changes. If you do begin to dose, be sure to get a test kit. Don't dose if you can't measure. Last edited by Origami2547 : 05-31-2008 at 11:35 AM. Reason: typos from answering via my phone...

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plecosword Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,231 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? of course, I keep right between 1.022 and a.021. That is were its at right now. __________________ --M/A "Post in Peace." !!!20g for reals!!!

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bluespotjawfish Tridacna maxima Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 4,410 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Dead Pepermint? Sudden change in pH and/or high nitrates would be my guess. Perhaps when you did top off, it was concentrated in close proximity to him. THey don't tolerate a lower salinity like that would have caused. Iodine is important, but in the short time you had him, I doubt it was the cause of death. __________________ Lorraine To BB and all Bluespots - Journey of the 2nd Year ...The 2nd Year - Photoshow Check out Mr. BJ and friends... Mr. BJ's Aquarium - PhotoShow

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lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 21,727 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Dead Pepermint? That salinity is a bit low. I would raise it a bit. Your PH will always be lowest right before the lights come on and highest just after the lights go out so that may explain the different readings. Here are a few great basic reef chemistry articles. If you want more go to the chemistry section and look at the stickies. There is a lot of great information there. Chemistry and the Aquarium Reef Aquarium Water Parameters by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com Sounds like you have a bit of a chemistry problem which may or may not be why the shrimp died. They are at their most vunerable right after a molt so it could have been most anything. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

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