inverts for a 24 gallon.......

clyde:) · 12-29-2007, 05:05 PM

ok im thinking 10 cerith,10,nassarus,10 blue legs,1 pom-pom crab,1 fire shrimp,and how would a lettuce nudibranch do???

framerguy · 12-29-2007, 07:07 PM

Unless you are feeding very heavy, you are overloaded on snails. Your size tank should have 8 total, 10 tops. Blue legs are notorious snail evictors (kill them and steal the shell), scarlet legs are IMO a better choice (4 total). The trick is add a small amount of cleaners and see how they do, then add more if you need them.

Now to your question. And I'll answer it with one of my own. How is your algae growth, because Lettuce Nudis eat lots of it. If you have enough, then go for it, they are very interesting and beautiful animals.

Paul B · 12-29-2007, 07:38 PM

Actually, there is no such thing as a Lettuce Nudi, they are slugs, but it is a common mistake. Nudibranchs and slugs are two completely different animals that look kind of alike. They do not eat algae except bryopsis. They don't actually "eat" anything, but they suck the chloroplasts out of bryopsis. I raise the things. Here is an article I wrote a few years ago on them if you are interested.
Take care.

Paul JoM Article: Elysia crispata Sea Slug Spawning in a 100 Gallon Reef Aquarium, by Paul Baldassano

framerguy · 12-29-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul B

Actually, there is no such thing as a Lettuce Nudi, they are slugs, but it is a common mistake. Nudibranchs and slugs are two completely different animals that look kind of alike. They do not eat algae except bryopsis. They don't actually "eat" anything, but they suck the chloroplasts out of bryopsis. I raise the things. Here is an article I wrote a few years ago on them if you are interested.
Take care.

Paul JoM Article: Elysia crispata Sea Slug Spawning in a 100 Gallon Reef Aquarium, by Paul Baldassano

I knew you were going to be a good addition to this site. Thanks Paul!

Paul B · 12-29-2007, 07:51 PM

Sorry to correct your post Framerguy. I really like lettuce nudi's... I mean slugs. You are correct though, the crabs would just love those snails, for dinner.
Don't worry, I diden't write an article on snails

framerguy · 12-29-2007, 08:34 PM

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Sorry to correct your post Framerguy.

No Way! I learned from it,(I knew it at one point, now I'll remember it!!)I'm not sure what critter I was thinking of but I checked my reference material when I got home and you (of course) were johnny on the spot. They don't last more than a couple of weeks in the typical home aquarium. Sorry Clyde for the misinfo. I was right on the snails and crabs though, so 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

clyde:) · 12-30-2007, 04:07 PM

so what would you suggest as a 'full' clean-up crew??(by the way some other guy on another site told me that was what i should go with)

Paul B · 12-30-2007, 05:56 PM

I personally would go with 5 small hermits and thats it.

framerguy · 12-30-2007, 06:28 PM

Paul should know. I still like snails better though. I'd go with 4 cerith and 4 trochus. And what are you doing on another site?! Cheatin' on us already, LOL??

clyde:) · 12-30-2007, 06:45 PM

well i quit that site,everybodys teaming against me

Paul B · 12-30-2007, 06:52 PM

Framer guy is correct too. If you like snails then get snails. Just if you get both, the crabs may eat the snails.

framerguy · 12-30-2007, 06:52 PM

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everybodys teaming against me

You will NEVER have that happen here! I'm glad you're with us.

clyde:) · 12-30-2007, 10:53 PM

i definetely like this site a WHOLE LOT BETTER!!!!the people are nicer,the information is'nt FAKE,and the site is more put together
(the only thing it needs are smileys.....lots and lots of smileys

12-29-2007, 05:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
clyde:) Bryozoan Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: athens alabama Posts: 41 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	inverts for a 24 gallon....... ok im thinking 10 cerith,10,nassarus,10 blue legs,1 pom-pom crab,1 fire shrimp,and how would a lettuce nudibranch do??? __________________ my tank is cycled!!!

12-29-2007, 07:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,908 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: inverts for a 24 gallon....... Unless you are feeding very heavy, you are overloaded on snails. Your size tank should have 8 total, 10 tops. Blue legs are notorious snail evictors (kill them and steal the shell), scarlet legs are IMO a better choice (4 total). The trick is add a small amount of cleaners and see how they do, then add more if you need them. Now to your question. And I'll answer it with one of my own. How is your algae growth, because Lettuce Nudis eat lots of it. If you have enough, then go for it, they are very interesting and beautiful animals. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon mangrove/seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/reef-chronicles/31882-akwareum-too.html

12-29-2007, 07:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
Paul B Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 417 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: inverts for a 24 gallon....... Actually, there is no such thing as a Lettuce Nudi, they are slugs, but it is a common mistake. Nudibranchs and slugs are two completely different animals that look kind of alike. They do not eat algae except bryopsis. They don't actually "eat" anything, but they suck the chloroplasts out of bryopsis. I raise the things. Here is an article I wrote a few years ago on them if you are interested. Take care. Paul JoM Article: Elysia crispata Sea Slug Spawning in a 100 Gallon Reef Aquarium, by Paul Baldassano

12-29-2007, 07:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
Paul B Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 417 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: inverts for a 24 gallon....... Sorry to correct your post Framerguy. I really like lettuce nudi's... I mean slugs. You are correct though, the crabs would just love those snails, for dinner. Don't worry, I diden't write an article on snails

12-30-2007, 04:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
clyde:) Bryozoan Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: athens alabama Posts: 41 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: inverts for a 24 gallon....... so what would you suggest as a 'full' clean-up crew??(by the way some other guy on another site told me that was what i should go with) __________________ my tank is cycled!!!

12-30-2007, 05:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Paul B Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 417 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: inverts for a 24 gallon....... I personally would go with 5 small hermits and thats it.

12-30-2007, 06:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,908 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: inverts for a 24 gallon....... Paul should know. I still like snails better though. I'd go with 4 cerith and 4 trochus. And what are you doing on another site?! Cheatin' on us already, LOL?? __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon mangrove/seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/reef-chronicles/31882-akwareum-too.html

12-30-2007, 06:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
clyde:) Bryozoan Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: athens alabama Posts: 41 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: inverts for a 24 gallon....... well i quit that site,everybodys teaming against me __________________ my tank is cycled!!!

12-30-2007, 06:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Paul B Scopas Tang Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 417 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: inverts for a 24 gallon....... Framer guy is correct too. If you like snails then get snails. Just if you get both, the crabs may eat the snails.

12-30-2007, 10:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
clyde:) Bryozoan Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: athens alabama Posts: 41 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: inverts for a 24 gallon....... i definetely like this site a WHOLE LOT BETTER!!!!the people are nicer,the information is'nt FAKE,and the site is more put together (the only thing it needs are smileys.....lots and lots of smileys __________________ my tank is cycled!!!

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