Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . .

BigAl07 · 09-25-2007, 11:51 AM

I saw a post here today mentioning Camel vs Peppermint shrimp and yes I have known they are often confused ONE for the other but I didn't realize how MUCH they look alike. I started "Googling" them in the "Image" category and apparently it's a wide spread issue. They do look remarkably alike.

So my question(s) is/are....

What is the "hump/bump" characteristic I saw mentioned in So, I have aiptasia...NOW what??

I have several in both of my tanks and they all look like what I see as "Peppermint" as they don't have the heavy WHITE lines that would make them Camel shrimp. But the irony is that ONE in each tank has a hump on it... not like on the TOP of it's back more on the side up near the head.. I would actually call it more of a "tumor-like" projection than a hump per say. Either I'll get a pic at home of one tonight and post it or bring my camera to work and take a picture of it in the morning.

so would it be accurate to use the "heavy white" lineage to help distinguish between the two?

I'm confident that I have Peppermint because I have NO aptasia in my 12g tank here at work and only ONE Aptasia in my home tank. It's been there since day once (9 months now) and hasn't gotten much bigger or spread at all. I have to say that and go home and it's spread EVERYWHERE today

any ideas?

Allen

AQTCJAK · 09-25-2007, 12:55 PM

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BigAl07 · 09-25-2007, 01:03 PM

Which is which Jack?

AQTCJAK · 09-25-2007, 01:07 PM

sorry

top is camel

bottom peppermint

BEELZEBOB · 09-25-2007, 01:08 PM

Top Camel,
Bottom Peppermint

BigAl07 · 09-25-2007, 01:11 PM

They do look a LOT alike! OUCH!!

Allen

Dentoid · 09-25-2007, 01:12 PM

I think there is a distinct morphologic differences. The camels tail is pinched in and narrow posterior to the hump. In Jacks links the 1st one is the Camel. Also Camels come from the Indo-Pacific and Peppermints come from the Caribbean/Atlantic. Camels are not really reef safe.

BigAl07 · 09-25-2007, 01:15 PM

I wonder if they taste the same on the "Barby"

Allen

framerguy · 09-25-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Camels are not really reef safe.

This is true

Quote:

I wonder if they taste the same on the "Barby"

What time's dinner, maybe we can do a taste test!

DrHank · 09-25-2007, 01:36 PM

Everyone should see those two pictures Jack. I'll bet there are a bunch of folks who wanted peps and got camels and are complaining that they didn't eat any aiptasia.

AQTCJAK · 09-25-2007, 01:40 PM

they only issue I have ever seen with peppermint was once they ate a PLT anenome at the base. Of course to there were no apitasia for them to eat could have been the reason

Dentoid · 09-25-2007, 01:48 PM

I suspect my 4 peppermints ganged up on a GBTA I once had and chewed on its base. I didn't witness it, so I'm not sure, but do have my suspicions.

XBwlr · 09-25-2007, 03:20 PM

Camel

Peppermint

reefjitsu · 09-25-2007, 03:37 PM

In addition, there are more than one species of peppermint shrimp, and they all look alike. Some are more reef-friendly than others.

BEELZEBOB · 09-25-2007, 05:08 PM

they have those big fuzzy hole pokin appendages too.

09-25-2007, 11:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . I saw a post here today mentioning Camel vs Peppermint shrimp and yes I have known they are often confused ONE for the other but I didn't realize how MUCH they look alike. I started "Googling" them in the "Image" category and apparently it's a wide spread issue. They do look remarkably alike. So my question(s) is/are.... What is the "hump/bump" characteristic I saw mentioned in So, I have aiptasia...NOW what?? I have several in both of my tanks and they all look like what I see as "Peppermint" as they don't have the heavy WHITE lines that would make them Camel shrimp. But the irony is that ONE in each tank has a hump on it... not like on the TOP of it's back more on the side up near the head.. I would actually call it more of a "tumor-like" projection than a hump per say. Either I'll get a pic at home of one tonight and post it or bring my camera to work and take a picture of it in the morning. so would it be accurate to use the "heavy white" lineage to help distinguish between the two? I'm confident that I have Peppermint because I have NO aptasia in my 12g tank here at work and only ONE Aptasia in my home tank. It's been there since day once (9 months now) and hasn't gotten much bigger or spread at all. I have to say that and go home and it's spread EVERYWHERE today any ideas? Allen __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

09-25-2007, 12:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
AQTCJAK Tiger Shark Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,267 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c...e_1968_5571350 http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._1968_18300006 __________________ A Wiseman once said build a stage add a pole & they will dance - Jack 2007 www.aquaticaggression.com

09-25-2007, 01:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . Which is which Jack? __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

09-25-2007, 01:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
AQTCJAK Tiger Shark Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,267 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . sorry top is camel bottom peppermint __________________ A Wiseman once said build a stage add a pole & they will dance - Jack 2007 www.aquaticaggression.com

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BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . Top Camel, Bottom Peppermint __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

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BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . They do look a LOT alike! OUCH!! Allen __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

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BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . I wonder if they taste the same on the "Barby" Allen __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

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DrHank Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 2,758 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . Everyone should see those two pictures Jack. I'll bet there are a bunch of folks who wanted peps and got camels and are complaining that they didn't eat any aiptasia. __________________ Doc Dr Hank's 210 Build: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nks-tanks.html

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AQTCJAK Tiger Shark Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,267 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . they only issue I have ever seen with peppermint was once they ate a PLT anenome at the base. Of course to there were no apitasia for them to eat could have been the reason __________________ A Wiseman once said build a stage add a pole & they will dance - Jack 2007 www.aquaticaggression.com

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BEELZEBOB -CHAUVINIST PIG- Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Boulder Colorado Posts: 4,851 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Camel vs Peppermint Shrimp . . they have those big fuzzy hole pokin appendages too. __________________ 18Gal Mantis Tank 28lbs LR 22lbs Black Sand D&D Typhoone Skimmer96W CL PC (10K + AC) 2 Rio 90 P.H., 1 Nano Korilla Bane the Mantis Shrimp (G.Smithii) LIFE LESSON 8/8/08: Dont Poke Squirrells... LIFE LESSON 8/12/08: Chicks dont dig comic books... LIFE LESSON 8/26/2008: Pain is relative... LIFE LESSON 9/13/2008: Sometimes you just gotta pee in the sink... LIFE LESSON 10/1/2008: Her eyes say more than her mouth... LIFE LESSON 10/1 B: In retrospect, the shooting range was a bad first date idea... LIFE LESSON 10/19/2008: Bleach doesn't work well with out DETERGENT... But with it, WOW! LIFE LESSON 10/25/2008: "You're Such a Man," isnt necessarily a compliment... LIFE LESSON 10/28/2008: RC Helicopters are not Bob Proof... LIFE LESSON 10/29/2008: Dont ** where you eat, UNLESS, you are the company pooper scooper... BARB FREGGIN RULES**

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