new tank and having issues

saltwaterfresh · 04-07-2008, 09:21 PM

Hello to all
Have a new tank 30gal. live sand and about 40lbs of live rock,5 fish and about 15 inverts.refium is going good but about 2 days ago my tank got very cloudy.looks green but it also looks milky.anybody have any ideas?

thanks

rlcline76 · 04-07-2008, 09:27 PM

5 fish seems like a lot for a 30.
Thoughts: How old is your tank? Can you give us parameters, including phosphates?

dobejazz · 04-07-2008, 10:18 PM

Welcome to RS !

What kind of fish? how long has the tank been running? what is your maintenance schedule?

clairewill4 · 04-08-2008, 02:40 PM

hi there! has it got direct sunlight this can cause green in water?

saltwaterfresh · 04-08-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlcline76

5 fish seems like a lot for a 30.
Thoughts: How old is your tank? Can you give us parameters, including phosphates?

tank is almost 3 months old.everything is normal all my levels are right on but the water just turned green

saltwaterfresh · 04-08-2008, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saltwaterfresh

tank is almost 3 months old.everything is normal all my levels are right on but the water just turned green

i have 2 clowns,2 chromies,1fire fish and about 15 inverts .refugium is doing great all levels are right on the money.a few days ago the water got green lookig and now i cant see through it

saltwaterfresh · 04-08-2008, 08:15 PM

i check my levels everyday because im alittle wierd .still everything looks good .just the water

AQTCJAK · 04-08-2008, 11:04 PM

milky water is normally ammonia

Kensn · 04-09-2008, 12:19 AM

I would have my parameters double checked by another set of test kits..... Just to make sure.....

prow · 04-09-2008, 03:37 AM

i agree with Jack. your fish load is almost at its max, maybe one more smallish fish could go in a 30gal. but this stocking level would be for a mature system. at 3 months you should be just adding your second fish if eveything went smoothly along the way. 5 fish at this point is too many, JMO. do have you tests double checked at the LFS or other reefer with different kits.

WPH · 04-09-2008, 08:04 AM

An Invert In Your Tank Must Have Died.does Your Tank Water Have A Foul Odor? If Snails Die The Water Will Get Cloudy And Sometimes Its Hard To Tell If They Are Dead....cucumbers Will Puke Out Their Insides When They Are Stressed(mucus) Causing The Water To Get Cloudy And If This Mucus Gets Into A Fishes Gills It Could Suffocate The Fish,feather Dusters Will Let Out A Milky Substance In The Water (feather Duster Sperm) Do You Have Any Of These Types Of Inverts In Your Tank....if So I Recommend You Find The Dead Invert And Remove It Right Away...or Your Ammonia Will Spike And Kill Everything....aloha Les@wph

saltwaterfresh · 04-09-2008, 10:12 AM

ive had 3 hermit crabs die but i got them right out.at this point and time i cant tell if anymore died but all the fish are still alive as well as the anemone.

lcstorc · 04-09-2008, 11:05 AM

Welcome to RS.
I do have to agree with the others that you are going too fast particularly for an anemone. We generally say that the tank should be established for a year before adding one of these delicate animals. They have a very slow metabolism and the fact that is is alive now does not mean it is thriving and it could die later because of stress caused now.
I would strongly recomment removing the anemone and taking it back to the lfs or to someone with a more established system. You don't mention your lighting but anemones require very high lighting which most new hobbiests just don't have.
Back to the original question you really need to run every test possible and post the results here. Just saying they are fine does not tell us very much. There are different opinions on what is fine and what is not and we have no idea what you are or are not testing for.
Regardless of the cause etc I would strongly recommend running carbon and replacing it frequently. Carbon can remove many toxins from a system though not all by any means.

saltwaterfresh · 04-09-2008, 02:19 PM

Thanks For The Info Lynn
Ph 8.2-amm. 0.0-nitrates 0.0-nitrits 0.0- Phospates 0.0 .im Using A Sundial 250 .as Far As The Fish I Have In There Nodody Told Me I Was Overstocked.and With The Anemone Same Thing They Didnt Tell Me Not To Put Them In.thank You All For Your Info. I Hired Someone To Come To My House And Get Me Square.ill Let You Know How I Make Out

lcstorc · 04-09-2008, 06:20 PM

The thing you want to be very cautious of is taking the advice of someone who is trying to sell you something. Often they are in it just for the money and will give advice that gets you to buy more livestock or things you don't need.
That is one of the great things about this forum. None of us get anything other than help and the satisfaction you get when you help someone. We encourage people to use our sponsors but will be very upfront about what we believe you should or should not have. Often there are varying opinions but you get those here as well and then you can decide what you want to go with armed with knowledge.
All of us are still learning and will be for many years if not forever.

04-07-2008, 09:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
saltwaterfresh Tunicate Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 View Gallery Karma Komment	new tank and having issues Hello to all Have a new tank 30gal. live sand and about 40lbs of live rock,5 fish and about 15 inverts.refium is going good but about 2 days ago my tank got very cloudy.looks green but it also looks milky.anybody have any ideas? thanks

04-07-2008, 09:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
rlcline76 Acropora Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 1,934 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: new tank and having issues 5 fish seems like a lot for a 30. Thoughts: How old is your tank? Can you give us parameters, including phosphates? __________________ ~Becky~ I think everything ALWAYS comes back to underwear sooner or later. Whether or not that's a good thing is up to conjecture. BarbMazz Any weather is thong weather. BEELZEBOB When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed. Say something once, why say it again? Talking Heads

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dobejazz Elegance coral Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,144 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new tank and having issues Welcome to RS ! What kind of fish? how long has the tank been running? what is your maintenance schedule? __________________ Kelli

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saltwaterfresh Tunicate Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new tank and having issues i check my levels everyday because im alittle wierd .still everything looks good .just the water

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04-09-2008, 12:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
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04-09-2008, 03:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
prow Manta Ray Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 3,770 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: new tank and having issues i agree with Jack. your fish load is almost at its max, maybe one more smallish fish could go in a 30gal. but this stocking level would be for a mature system. at 3 months you should be just adding your second fish if eveything went smoothly along the way. 5 fish at this point is too many, JMO. do have you tests double checked at the LFS or other reefer with different kits. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step." ........Lao Tzu........ my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html

04-09-2008, 08:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
WPH Tubeworm Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 29 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new tank and having issues An Invert In Your Tank Must Have Died.does Your Tank Water Have A Foul Odor? If Snails Die The Water Will Get Cloudy And Sometimes Its Hard To Tell If They Are Dead....cucumbers Will Puke Out Their Insides When They Are Stressed(mucus) Causing The Water To Get Cloudy And If This Mucus Gets Into A Fishes Gills It Could Suffocate The Fish,feather Dusters Will Let Out A Milky Substance In The Water (feather Duster Sperm) Do You Have Any Of These Types Of Inverts In Your Tank....if So I Recommend You Find The Dead Invert And Remove It Right Away...or Your Ammonia Will Spike And Kill Everything....aloha Les@wph __________________ It's A Great Day To Be A Fish!!!

04-09-2008, 10:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
saltwaterfresh Tunicate Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new tank and having issues ive had 3 hermit crabs die but i got them right out.at this point and time i cant tell if anymore died but all the fish are still alive as well as the anemone.

04-09-2008, 11:05 AM	#13 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 16,425 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: new tank and having issues Welcome to RS. I do have to agree with the others that you are going too fast particularly for an anemone. We generally say that the tank should be established for a year before adding one of these delicate animals. They have a very slow metabolism and the fact that is is alive now does not mean it is thriving and it could die later because of stress caused now. I would strongly recomment removing the anemone and taking it back to the lfs or to someone with a more established system. You don't mention your lighting but anemones require very high lighting which most new hobbiests just don't have. Back to the original question you really need to run every test possible and post the results here. Just saying they are fine does not tell us very much. There are different opinions on what is fine and what is not and we have no idea what you are or are not testing for. Regardless of the cause etc I would strongly recommend running carbon and replacing it frequently. Carbon can remove many toxins from a system though not all by any means. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g Jawfish enjoyment ASM answer girl. Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

04-09-2008, 02:19 PM	#14 (permalink)
saltwaterfresh Tunicate Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 6 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: new tank and having issues Thanks For The Info Lynn Ph 8.2-amm. 0.0-nitrates 0.0-nitrits 0.0- Phospates 0.0 .im Using A Sundial 250 .as Far As The Fish I Have In There Nodody Told Me I Was Overstocked.and With The Anemone Same Thing They Didnt Tell Me Not To Put Them In.thank You All For Your Info. I Hired Someone To Come To My House And Get Me Square.ill Let You Know How I Make Out

04-09-2008, 06:20 PM	#15 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 16,425 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: new tank and having issues The thing you want to be very cautious of is taking the advice of someone who is trying to sell you something. Often they are in it just for the money and will give advice that gets you to buy more livestock or things you don't need. That is one of the great things about this forum. None of us get anything other than help and the satisfaction you get when you help someone. We encourage people to use our sponsors but will be very upfront about what we believe you should or should not have. Often there are varying opinions but you get those here as well and then you can decide what you want to go with armed with knowledge. All of us are still learning and will be for many years if not forever. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g Jawfish enjoyment ASM answer girl. Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.

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