New to...well everything!

CREEPIN · 02-26-2008, 12:08 PM

hi guys, i got myself a 14gal Biocube, so far i have a heater, a Hydor Koralia 1 Circulation Pump, and some siporax, what do u guys think i should do next??
Thanks!

BigAl07 · 02-26-2008, 12:16 PM

Hello

and Welcome

Decide on what you want in it long term.

Add Live Sand (if you want a sand bottom)
Add Live rock
Get rid of Bioballs and any other "media" in rear chambers.

Get a good quality salt mix and mi your water... add it to tank and then watch it cycle

In the mean while go to
Newbies, a little something on cycling/breaking in a new reef tank.
and read all about this new thing called a Cycle... read it.. learn it.. LOVE it! it's a VERY integral part of EVERY aspect of the Marine Tank. The better you understand it now the better off you, your tank and your WALLET will be

Again WELCOME

framerguy · 02-26-2008, 12:18 PM

Welcome to RS!! I'm not familiar with siporax,,what's that. You are going to need some live rock so I think your next move is to figure out which kind you want. Pacific East Aquaculture (PEA) is a great place to get Tonga Fusion rock and that is a good live rock. If you don't have a book to read get Robert Fenners "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist". It's a great beginners book. Welcome again! Have fun and ask lots of questions.

CREEPIN · 02-26-2008, 12:24 PM

hey guys thanks for the quick response...but i already got the live rocks and sand and water, i've gone through the whole cycle and added a clown, a emerald and a few other fish(cant remember names)

basicly what happend was i put the hobby on the back burner and now im thinking of bringin it back, but i wanted to know what you guys recommend(upgrade lights, add a bigger pump,ect..)

Thanks yet again...love the site so far!

AQTCJAK · 02-26-2008, 12:53 PM

Welcome Aboard

michael_cb_125 · 02-26-2008, 01:01 PM

Welcome to RS.
How many fish do you have in there. Personally I would not put more than two SMALL fish in a 14 gallon tank. Once you add the sand Live Rock and other components, you end up with alot less than 14 gallons of water. I would keep the fish down to two small ones.
Again, welcome

~Michael

CREEPIN · 02-26-2008, 03:00 PM

thanks guys, nice to meet ya...

i have roughly like 5small fish clown being the biggest...i know i have toomany, 3 were gifts, so i couldnt turn down! but when they belly up..i wont replace them..

i was thinking 3 fish 3 inverts and 2 stars...and a gang of live coral..

what else would i need to keep that up to par?

thanks alot!

CREEPIN · 02-26-2008, 03:02 PM

double post

Dentoid · 02-26-2008, 03:14 PM

CREEPIN · 02-26-2008, 03:24 PM

sera GmbH:*Aquarium*-*Saltwater aquarium*-*Filtration in detail.

i found the website for the siporax

michael_cb_125 · 02-26-2008, 03:29 PM

If you want to have large amount of coral, you will need to limit your nuber of fish. I am not meaning to burst your bubble, but one fish is ALL I would have. Also stars NEED big tanks to survive. Most reef safe stars eat tiny bits of food, and film algea. Small nano tanks just cant provide the amount of food nessecary for sea stars to survive. What types of coral do you want to keep. This determines what you need to be successful. The secrect to success with coral is keeping a low bio-load. The more fish you have the more nitrates you end up with. Many corals just cant handle the amount of nitrates that are likely to build up ina 14 gallon tank with 3 fish.
Just give us more info on what you want to keep in you tank with regaurds to coral. Then we can help more.
~Michael

zy112 · 02-26-2008, 03:34 PM

Welcome to RS! You could always take the fish back and get credit. Sounds like a good start though.

BigAl07 · 02-26-2008, 03:37 PM

In a 14g tank you have room for one smallish fish or two if you can keep water quality near perfect! A general rule of thumb is 1" of ADULT fish per 5 gallons of water. Take your 14 gallon tank. Add sand and rock and you're lucky to still have 10 gallons of usable water. That limits you to one smallish fish. ANY more than that and you're only setting u for a tank crash and roller coaster of problems. (Problems = $$ and heart ache).

Michael's right. Starfish are questionable in any tank but for any type of long term survival they do need a much larger tank.

Are the lights stock? If so, it's a good idea to upgrade them right off the bat so you can start planning your long term tank now and work towards it.

good luck and HAPPY REEFING!!

CREEPIN · 02-26-2008, 03:41 PM

i guess i want them to be easy to take care of and preeeeeetttyy lol

because of the pump i have, must be able to stand high flow...
thanks guys!!

CREEPIN · 02-26-2008, 03:43 PM

how should i go about upgrading my lights(they are stock)

02-26-2008, 12:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
CREEPIN Cabbage Leather Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment	New to...well everything! hi guys, i got myself a 14gal Biocube, so far i have a heater, a Hydor Koralia 1 Circulation Pump, and some siporax, what do u guys think i should do next?? Thanks!

02-26-2008, 12:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New to...well everything! Hello and Welcome Decide on what you want in it long term. Add Live Sand (if you want a sand bottom) Add Live rock Get rid of Bioballs and any other "media" in rear chambers. Get a good quality salt mix and mi your water... add it to tank and then watch it cycle In the mean while go to Newbies, a little something on cycling/breaking in a new reef tank. and read all about this new thing called a Cycle... read it.. learn it.. LOVE it! it's a VERY integral part of EVERY aspect of the Marine Tank. The better you understand it now the better off you, your tank and your WALLET will be Again WELCOME __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

02-26-2008, 12:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
framerguy Tridacna maxima Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarkesville, Ga Posts: 4,994 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New to...well everything! Welcome to RS!! I'm not familiar with siporax,,what's that. You are going to need some live rock so I think your next move is to figure out which kind you want. Pacific East Aquaculture (PEA) is a great place to get Tonga Fusion rock and that is a good live rock. If you don't have a book to read get Robert Fenners "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist". It's a great beginners book. Welcome again! Have fun and ask lots of questions. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) 375gDT built in wall, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, Aqua C EV-400 skimmer etc, etc, etc... http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...areum-too.html

02-26-2008, 12:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
CREEPIN Cabbage Leather Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New to...well everything! hey guys thanks for the quick response...but i already got the live rocks and sand and water, i've gone through the whole cycle and added a clown, a emerald and a few other fish(cant remember names) basicly what happend was i put the hobby on the back burner and now im thinking of bringin it back, but i wanted to know what you guys recommend(upgrade lights, add a bigger pump,ect..) Thanks yet again...love the site so far!

02-26-2008, 12:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
AQTCJAK Tiger Shark Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 7,267 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New to...well everything! Welcome Aboard __________________ A Wiseman once said build a stage add a pole & they will dance - Jack 2007 www.aquaticaggression.com

02-26-2008, 01:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Reef Shark Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 5,600 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New to...well everything! Welcome to RS. How many fish do you have in there. Personally I would not put more than two SMALL fish in a 14 gallon tank. Once you add the sand Live Rock and other components, you end up with alot less than 14 gallons of water. I would keep the fish down to two small ones. Again, welcome ~Michael __________________ All Fish are "Semi-Reef Safe"

02-26-2008, 03:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
CREEPIN Cabbage Leather Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New to...well everything! thanks guys, nice to meet ya... i have roughly like 5small fish clown being the biggest...i know i have toomany, 3 were gifts, so i couldnt turn down! but when they belly up..i wont replace them.. i was thinking 3 fish 3 inverts and 2 stars...and a gang of live coral.. what else would i need to keep that up to par? thanks alot!

02-26-2008, 03:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
CREEPIN Cabbage Leather Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New to...well everything! double post

02-26-2008, 03:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
CREEPIN Cabbage Leather Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New to...well everything! sera GmbH:Aquarium-Saltwater aquarium-*Filtration in detail. i found the website for the siporax

02-26-2008, 03:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Reef Shark Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 5,600 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New to...well everything! If you want to have large amount of coral, you will need to limit your nuber of fish. I am not meaning to burst your bubble, but one fish is ALL I would have. Also stars NEED big tanks to survive. Most reef safe stars eat tiny bits of food, and film algea. Small nano tanks just cant provide the amount of food nessecary for sea stars to survive. What types of coral do you want to keep. This determines what you need to be successful. The secrect to success with coral is keeping a low bio-load. The more fish you have the more nitrates you end up with. Many corals just cant handle the amount of nitrates that are likely to build up ina 14 gallon tank with 3 fish. Just give us more info on what you want to keep in you tank with regaurds to coral. Then we can help more. ~Michael __________________ All Fish are "Semi-Reef Safe"

02-26-2008, 03:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
zy112 Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,225 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New to...well everything! Welcome to RS! You could always take the fish back and get credit. Sounds like a good start though. __________________ Zach

02-26-2008, 03:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,547 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: New to...well everything! In a 14g tank you have room for one smallish fish or two if you can keep water quality near perfect! A general rule of thumb is 1" of ADULT fish per 5 gallons of water. Take your 14 gallon tank. Add sand and rock and you're lucky to still have 10 gallons of usable water. That limits you to one smallish fish. ANY more than that and you're only setting u for a tank crash and roller coaster of problems. (Problems = $$ and heart ache). Michael's right. Starfish are questionable in any tank but for any type of long term survival they do need a much larger tank. Are the lights stock? If so, it's a good idea to upgrade them right off the bat so you can start planning your long term tank now and work towards it. good luck and HAPPY REEFING!! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

02-26-2008, 03:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
CREEPIN Cabbage Leather Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New to...well everything! i guess i want them to be easy to take care of and preeeeeetttyy lol because of the pump i have, must be able to stand high flow... thanks guys!!

02-26-2008, 03:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
CREEPIN Cabbage Leather Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miami FL Posts: 355 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: New to...well everything! how should i go about upgrading my lights(they are stock)

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