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Cal Native · 12-28-2007, 03:40 PM

Wow! one of the very few to have luck with a Moorish Idol. Love to see more pic's.

lcstorc · 12-28-2007, 04:01 PM

beautiful

Dentoid · 12-28-2007, 04:27 PM

Wow! You have had the same tank set up since 1972? That's impressive. I bet you have a story or two. All that experience is certainly welcomed.

Paul B · 12-28-2007, 08:13 PM

Wow, that looks just like my tank.... Oh it is my tank. I guess I will let Booze post pictures for me.

He is doing such a beautiful job.
I guess you got those pictures from Reef Central.
I do have some stories but it may take years to tell them.
I started with salt when salt was invented or a little before

As for the moorish Idol, I have had many of them but I diden't figure out how to keep them until I spent a lot of time diving with them in Bora Bora.
Paul

Paul B · 12-28-2007, 08:24 PM

Booze, you forgot this one.

framerguy · 12-28-2007, 08:25 PM

Wow Paul! I feel a little ....in awe(?) that you would even talk to us. Thank you so much for joining Reef Sanctuary! Your tank is amazing. An Idol in a 100g, whodathunkit?

boozeman · 12-28-2007, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul B

...I guess you got those pictures from Reef Central.

aagghhhh ... you mentioned ''that other site''

dobejazz · 12-28-2007, 09:11 PM

Welcome to RS Paul ! Glad to have you here

JFK_Jr · 12-29-2007, 06:44 AM

Paul B · 12-29-2007, 07:23 AM

Framerguy, your enthusiasm woke me up, thank you

Paul B · 12-29-2007, 07:49 AM

Wrong message here, supposed to go to another thread, sorry

DrHank · 12-29-2007, 08:06 AM

Welcome Paul. It's great to have you with us.

zimboy · 12-29-2007, 10:05 AM

Welcome to RS! just an acronym question: RUGF = Remote UnderGravel Filter? This sound interesting. I would love a small tour of your filltration and DIY lighting setup. Obviously there is a lot to be leared from an old salt like yourself.

Paul B · 12-29-2007, 10:45 AM

Zinboy, RUGF means reverse Undergravel filter.
UG filters were invented in the fiftees for fresh water. We used them for years and they made a real mess and had to be cleaned often. When salt tanks came out in about 1972 all we had was the old UG filters we used in fresh water so we used them. There was no alternative. There was not even sand sold for salt tanks. We were limited to crushed coral or dolomite.
I have dolomite. It has been in my tank since the tank was brackish in the sixtees. I first used the UG filter like it was used in fresh water and had the same problems that we always had. It need to be cleaned often. Then I started using it in reverse by pumping water down the tubes in stead of using bubbles to bring water up. This was an improvement but it still got dirty and needed to be cleaned. I experimented for a few years and for the last 30 years or so I have been running it in reverse but very slow and with a sponge filter on the intake. I ran it for 25 years until I removed it to see what it looked like under neith it. It was not as bad as I thought it would be. It was full of tiny tubeworms and fan worms. There was no dead spots and no hydrogen sulfide. Of course it was dirty. I still run my tank this way and have bred many fish and kept corals for years. Almost all of my corals were LPS. I like them better than SPS.
I am just about the only one you will find using this system as I think I invented it. It has worked very well for me for all these years but it is of course not the only successful way to run a tank. I believe it is the best, least maintenance, longest lived system you can have, but of course that is only my opinion.
Here is an article I wrote years ago about the tank and the history of the tank in general. It appeared in either Aquarium Fish Magazine, FAMMA or Aquarium Fish Monthly, I don't remember which one.
Have a great day.
Paul
Reef Central Online Community
I don't know if I can post a link here like this. If not, moderator, please remove it

AQTCJAK · 12-29-2007, 11:28 AM

Welcome Aboard

12-28-2007, 03:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
Cal Native Serpent Star Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 202 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Hello Wow! one of the very few to have luck with a Moorish Idol. Love to see more pic's.

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Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,239 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Hello Wow! You have had the same tank set up since 1972? That's impressive. I bet you have a story or two. All that experience is certainly welcomed. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama Last edited by Dentoid : 12-28-2007 at 08:55 PM.

12-28-2007, 08:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
Paul B Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 292 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Hello Wow, that looks just like my tank.... Oh it is my tank. I guess I will let Booze post pictures for me. He is doing such a beautiful job. I guess you got those pictures from Reef Central. I do have some stories but it may take years to tell them. I started with salt when salt was invented or a little before As for the moorish Idol, I have had many of them but I diden't figure out how to keep them until I spent a lot of time diving with them in Bora Bora. Paul

12-28-2007, 08:25 PM	#21 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,326 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Hello Wow Paul! I feel a little ....in awe(?) that you would even talk to us. Thank you so much for joining Reef Sanctuary! Your tank is amazing. An Idol in a 100g, whodathunkit? __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 390gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 150g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum (\___/) This is Bunny. (=O.o=) Copy and paste him into your signature (")__(") to help him gain world domination

12-28-2007, 09:11 PM	#23 (permalink)
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12-29-2007, 07:23 AM	#25 (permalink)
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12-29-2007, 10:05 AM	#28 (permalink)
zimboy Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 296 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Hello Welcome to RS! just an acronym question: RUGF = Remote UnderGravel Filter? This sound interesting. I would love a small tour of your filltration and DIY lighting setup. Obviously there is a lot to be leared from an old salt like yourself.

12-29-2007, 10:45 AM	#29 (permalink)
Paul B Tuxedo Urchin Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 292 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Hello Zinboy, RUGF means reverse Undergravel filter. UG filters were invented in the fiftees for fresh water. We used them for years and they made a real mess and had to be cleaned often. When salt tanks came out in about 1972 all we had was the old UG filters we used in fresh water so we used them. There was no alternative. There was not even sand sold for salt tanks. We were limited to crushed coral or dolomite. I have dolomite. It has been in my tank since the tank was brackish in the sixtees. I first used the UG filter like it was used in fresh water and had the same problems that we always had. It need to be cleaned often. Then I started using it in reverse by pumping water down the tubes in stead of using bubbles to bring water up. This was an improvement but it still got dirty and needed to be cleaned. I experimented for a few years and for the last 30 years or so I have been running it in reverse but very slow and with a sponge filter on the intake. I ran it for 25 years until I removed it to see what it looked like under neith it. It was not as bad as I thought it would be. It was full of tiny tubeworms and fan worms. There was no dead spots and no hydrogen sulfide. Of course it was dirty. I still run my tank this way and have bred many fish and kept corals for years. Almost all of my corals were LPS. I like them better than SPS. I am just about the only one you will find using this system as I think I invented it. It has worked very well for me for all these years but it is of course not the only successful way to run a tank. I believe it is the best, least maintenance, longest lived system you can have, but of course that is only my opinion. Here is an article I wrote years ago about the tank and the history of the tank in general. It appeared in either Aquarium Fish Magazine, FAMMA or Aquarium Fish Monthly, I don't remember which one. Have a great day. Paul Reef Central Online Community I don't know if I can post a link here like this. If not, moderator, please remove it

12-29-2007, 11:28 AM	#30 (permalink)
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