mangroves? - Page 2

BigAl07 · 02-24-2008, 08:25 PM

I don't think a "single" will do a lot other than looking really COOL!

I've been talking with Drew fairly extensively over the last couple of weeks about groves. He said they CAN indeed be totally submerged. He said the biggest caution is making sure you can see/address the roots. Don't just bury them in your substrate and forget about them. The roots can over time swell and break the glass.

I'm planning to suspend them in my fuge in a "Grove Tray" of some sort. Going to keep them totally submerged to not have to worry about "cleaning the leaves" for a while.

Frankie · 02-24-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dentoid

So there is no benefit to growing just one in the fuge?

I get a lot from just one. It's all about me though. Doesn't do a damn thing for the tank i am afraid.

BigAl07 · 02-24-2008, 10:36 PM

that's what it's really ALL about!

I'm seriously thinking about doing a "Display Mangrove Fuge" (Drew's idea) in the future. I just like the LOOK of the mangroves.

JoJo · 02-25-2008, 07:23 PM

since they can be fully submerged, could that go into a DT

BigAl07 · 02-25-2008, 08:31 PM

I don't see why not....

JoJo · 03-01-2008, 08:03 PM

I havent found anyone who has them in their DT yet

SJS · 03-01-2008, 11:48 PM

I am starting some in my 'mangrove' fuge. I contacted Leroy at GARF who sent me 6 stalks and instructions on how to 'plant' them - he said to take a piece of styrofoam, poke a hole through it, put the stalk through it and let it float in the tank. The roots will grow but not being attached to anything wont be permanent. He also said to pinch off the top two leaves once it sprouts 4 leaves and it will branch out and be more of a bonsai effect than a stalk effect.... I'm putting that plan into action tomorrow...

burning2nd · 03-02-2008, 07:22 AM

grown in strait sand....

under 2 t5's the little nova sigle bulb things

Vindicator · 04-11-2008, 12:54 PM

I cannot see how you could get them to survive long term fully submerged. I have never heard of that working. Tell me if you have any luck with it. ALSO, has there been any real testing done on how many you need to make a difference in the tank? Or is everyone just spouting off random rumors that they have heard over time?

elliottb · 04-14-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl07

that's what it's really ALL about!

I'm seriously thinking about doing a "Display Mangrove Fuge" (Drew's idea) in the future. I just like the LOOK of the mangroves.

I dont have any recent pics, but that is my seagrass/mangrove tank.

elliottb · 04-14-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JoJo

since they can be fully submerged, could that go into a DT

Most aquarium lighting isnt the right kelvin. I have a 40g seagrass/mangrove tank and I have 6700k over that. Most DT's have 10-14k plus actinics.

When I had mangroves in my DT, they didnt survive because of the lighting variation.

And yes, you can have the mangrove submerged, but not too deep. I would not have the leaves submerged more than a few inches at most.

BigAl07 · 04-14-2008, 08:55 PM

Great GROVE! Man those are SWEET!!!

Frankie · 04-14-2008, 10:14 PM

Nice refugium Elliott! Once the leaves are clearing the water ever just a bit start to spray them with fresh water. You need to wash the leaves off of salt. Also when they start to sprout new buds they actually drink the fresh water. Since my mangrove took off i get a new set of leaves about once a month now. I only have one i have been working with and a new guy who is under water at the moment. My main one is about two feet tall. This it it in a 75 gallon.

elliottb · 04-14-2008, 11:14 PM

Thanks for the advice. I have never heard to spray them with freshwater, but it makes perfect sense....its like the natural rain.

JoJo · 04-15-2008, 07:51 AM

thanks fo rthe pics Frankie, are the groves bedded in sand or floating? i ask because they sit in the eggcrate.

02-24-2008, 08:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mangroves? I don't think a "single" will do a lot other than looking really COOL! I've been talking with Drew fairly extensively over the last couple of weeks about groves. He said they CAN indeed be totally submerged. He said the biggest caution is making sure you can see/address the roots. Don't just bury them in your substrate and forget about them. The roots can over time swell and break the glass. I'm planning to suspend them in my fuge in a "Grove Tray" of some sort. Going to keep them totally submerged to not have to worry about "cleaning the leaves" for a while. __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mangroves? that's what it's really ALL about! I'm seriously thinking about doing a "Display Mangrove Fuge" (Drew's idea) in the future. I just like the LOOK of the mangroves. __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mangroves? I don't see why not.... __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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SJS Achilles Tang Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SO CAL - Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 822 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mangroves? I am starting some in my 'mangrove' fuge. I contacted Leroy at GARF who sent me 6 stalks and instructions on how to 'plant' them - he said to take a piece of styrofoam, poke a hole through it, put the stalk through it and let it float in the tank. The roots will grow but not being attached to anything wont be permanent. He also said to pinch off the top two leaves once it sprouts 4 leaves and it will branch out and be more of a bonsai effect than a stalk effect.... I'm putting that plan into action tomorrow... __________________ Steph 300 gallon dt, 90 gallon fuge, 35 gallon fuge, 35 gallon sump, 4 Ecotech Vortechs, T-5 lights

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Vindicator Tubeworm Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 37 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: mangroves? I cannot see how you could get them to survive long term fully submerged. I have never heard of that working. Tell me if you have any luck with it. ALSO, has there been any real testing done on how many you need to make a difference in the tank? Or is everyone just spouting off random rumors that they have heard over time?

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 10,613 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mangroves? Great GROVE! Man those are SWEET!!! __________________ Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

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Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 7,099 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: mangroves? Nice refugium Elliott! Once the leaves are clearing the water ever just a bit start to spray them with fresh water. You need to wash the leaves off of salt. Also when they start to sprout new buds they actually drink the fresh water. Since my mangrove took off i get a new set of leaves about once a month now. I only have one i have been working with and a new guy who is under water at the moment. My main one is about two feet tall. This it it in a 75 gallon. __________________ Visit my aquarium -->New Horizons By Frankie Bruce: Today's meeting is Step 5: Bring a fish friend. Everyone brought a fish friend? DIY=DO IT YOURSELF! If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

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