Shrimp, Cleaners or ?

woolfe · 10-12-2008, 11:15 PM

About a month/six weeks ago I noticed a TON of baby shrimp in my refugium. My two cleaners hang out near the PH that pumps up to it. Is it possible for them to have released the eggs, and the eggs to have hatched unharmed once they were in there? I've been feeding them cyclops and some micro food that I had. They are growing but I can't tell (because their sooo small) if their cleaners or not. Everything I've read says that raising cleaners has never been done or done with very little success. These guys are doing great! I'll try to take pics tomorrow, the lights are out right now. I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience with this. If their not cleaners, where did they come from? I haven't added anything new to the tank for quite a while so it's not possible they came in on anything alse. Also about 2 weeks before I noticed them my cleaners disappeared. I do have a little lobster in my reef that I suspect (no evidence) is eating my fish one by one. I'm in the process of making a trap to catch him. I think he/she must have gotten them.

barrythedamsel · 10-12-2008, 11:59 PM

sounds like copepods

woolfe · 10-13-2008, 12:06 AM

they are definately not pods. Unless there are pods I've never seen before that look exactally like little tiny shrimp.

seafansar · 10-13-2008, 01:01 AM

My cleaner shrimp have spawned in my tank. They release the live larvae not eggs. Mine lived for about 24 hours before they all died. It would be really cool if yours are indeed baby cleaners. They take a long time to grow up though. That's one of the problems people trying to breed them have. If they aren't cleaners, maybe mysid shrimp. I know a guy who has mysid shrimp that seasonally have population booms in his tank for some reason.

seafansar · 10-13-2008, 01:02 AM

Are they floating in the water or on the substrate or glass? Cleaner shrimp larvae would float.

cbrownfish · 10-13-2008, 08:56 AM

Most likely Mysids IMO. Very good to have in your system!

prow · 10-13-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cbrownfish

Most likely Mysids IMO. Very good to have in your system!

yup, that is what i am thinking.....

woolfe · 10-13-2008, 09:55 AM

I never saw them floating. They swim all over the place. I'm going to see if I can get a pic now.

woolfe · 10-13-2008, 10:37 AM

ok this is the best shot I can get right now. I don't know where I put my macro lenses and don't have time to look right now. I have to be at work in an hour and still need to jump in the shower.

If they are mysis, how big do they get?

michael_cb_125 · 10-13-2008, 12:27 PM

I cant really tell from the pictures, but IMO they are probably Mysids.
~Michael

bratyboy2 · 10-13-2008, 05:59 PM

mysid shrimp for sure in my opinion

woolfe · 10-13-2008, 09:45 PM

Crap! I wanted them to be cleaners.

LOL

woolfe · 10-29-2008, 09:31 AM

I pulled out a couple and got better pictures. Do these shots change any opinions?

SeaMunky · 10-29-2008, 10:41 AM

wow good shots...they almost do resemble tiny cleaners.lol..but I will leave it to the bigger peeps here

cbrownfish · 10-29-2008, 01:12 PM

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10-12-2008, 11:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
woolfe Sea Pen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 331 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Shrimp, Cleaners or ? About a month/six weeks ago I noticed a TON of baby shrimp in my refugium. My two cleaners hang out near the PH that pumps up to it. Is it possible for them to have released the eggs, and the eggs to have hatched unharmed once they were in there? I've been feeding them cyclops and some micro food that I had. They are growing but I can't tell (because their sooo small) if their cleaners or not. Everything I've read says that raising cleaners has never been done or done with very little success. These guys are doing great! I'll try to take pics tomorrow, the lights are out right now. I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience with this. If their not cleaners, where did they come from? I haven't added anything new to the tank for quite a while so it's not possible they came in on anything alse. Also about 2 weeks before I noticed them my cleaners disappeared. I do have a little lobster in my reef that I suspect (no evidence) is eating my fish one by one. I'm in the process of making a trap to catch him. I think he/she must have gotten them. __________________ Wendy 90 gal reef w/ a 29 gal seahorse tank connected. 30 gal. nano w/ Maroons

10-12-2008, 11:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
barrythedamsel Tubeworm Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 36 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? sounds like copepods

10-13-2008, 12:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
woolfe Sea Pen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 331 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? they are definately not pods. Unless there are pods I've never seen before that look exactally like little tiny shrimp. __________________ Wendy 90 gal reef w/ a 29 gal seahorse tank connected. 30 gal. nano w/ Maroons

10-13-2008, 01:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
seafansar Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 1,191 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? My cleaner shrimp have spawned in my tank. They release the live larvae not eggs. Mine lived for about 24 hours before they all died. It would be really cool if yours are indeed baby cleaners. They take a long time to grow up though. That's one of the problems people trying to breed them have. If they aren't cleaners, maybe mysid shrimp. I know a guy who has mysid shrimp that seasonally have population booms in his tank for some reason. __________________ -Sara SW since Jan. '08 150 gallon SPS reef 20 gallon BTA/clown tank 90 gallon bowfront mixed reef 45 gallon cube 150 tank thread 45 cube thread My Reefnook

10-13-2008, 01:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
seafansar Elegance coral Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Deltona, FL Posts: 1,191 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? Are they floating in the water or on the substrate or glass? Cleaner shrimp larvae would float. __________________ -Sara SW since Jan. '08 150 gallon SPS reef 20 gallon BTA/clown tank 90 gallon bowfront mixed reef 45 gallon cube 150 tank thread 45 cube thread My Reefnook

10-13-2008, 08:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
cbrownfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? Most likely Mysids IMO. Very good to have in your system! __________________ *Confucius Say: "best way to save face, is to keep lower part of face shut".* CURRENT SET UP -- 90 gallon display, 30 gallon refugium, 6 gallon pod breeder, 100 gallon sump (complete with frag rack), 2X250 MH 14K DE HQI, Vortech MP40w and Koralia #4 for flow, 2X Tunze 9010 Skimmers, Sequence Dart return, 2X Ranco Controllers w/Titanium Heaters, 150 lb LR (90 in display, 60 in sump), 5" DSB, Mixed reef - Softies, LPS, SPS, Clams.

10-13-2008, 09:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
woolfe Sea Pen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 331 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? I never saw them floating. They swim all over the place. I'm going to see if I can get a pic now. __________________ Wendy 90 gal reef w/ a 29 gal seahorse tank connected. 30 gal. nano w/ Maroons

10-13-2008, 12:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
michael_cb_125 Reef Shark Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 5,600 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? I cant really tell from the pictures, but IMO they are probably Mysids. ~Michael __________________ All Fish are "Semi-Reef Safe"

10-13-2008, 09:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
woolfe Sea Pen Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 331 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? Crap! I wanted them to be cleaners. LOL __________________ Wendy 90 gal reef w/ a 29 gal seahorse tank connected. 30 gal. nano w/ Maroons

10-29-2008, 10:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
SeaMunky Scopas Tang Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 470 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? wow good shots...they almost do resemble tiny cleaners.lol..but I will leave it to the bigger peeps here __________________ My Banggai Breeding Thread : http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-got-eggs.html Member http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...f-holic-3.html

10-29-2008, 01:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
cbrownfish Reef Lobster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,633 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Shrimp, Cleaners or ? M Y S I D S Aquarium Possums - Mysids in the Aquarium by Ronald L. Shimek, Ph.D. - Reefkeeping.com __________________ *Confucius Say: "best way to save face, is to keep lower part of face shut".* CURRENT SET UP -- 90 gallon display, 30 gallon refugium, 6 gallon pod breeder, 100 gallon sump (complete with frag rack), 2X250 MH 14K DE HQI, Vortech MP40w and Koralia #4 for flow, 2X Tunze 9010 Skimmers, Sequence Dart return, 2X Ranco Controllers w/Titanium Heaters, 150 lb LR (90 in display, 60 in sump), 5" DSB, Mixed reef - Softies, LPS, SPS, Clams.

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