Here I go The Spotted Manderin - Page 3

jski711 · 09-23-2008, 03:38 PM

Wow, seems like your onto something here!!! I guess this is more possible than what previously people had thought. if i may ask what other fish have you successfully bred? thanks and Great thread!!

Jake

bratyboy2 · 09-23-2008, 04:10 PM

yeah really this is amazing to actually see a hobbyist getting this far with such a hard fish to even keep for a long time let alone get to eat anything else!!! if we could give trophies on this site i totally would give you one!

my only question is what day is metsmorphisis? are you going to get your babies to eat flake and brine and all the other prepared foods?

congrats yet again!!!!

jski711 · 09-23-2008, 04:39 PM

You really want to stay away from brine shrimp unless ur using it to train onto other foods. Brine has very little nutritional value. Im sure he will be training all other foods.

Jake

bratyboy2 · 09-23-2008, 04:45 PM

so i take it mysid shrimp is way better then the brine? do you think you can get them to eat fresh foods like from the markets? if grated?

jski711 · 09-23-2008, 04:54 PM

Sure look at the ingrediants in rods food. He puts all sorts of good stuff like that in his food. Yes mysid is MUCH better!

bratyboy2 · 09-23-2008, 05:06 PM

yay maybe that will help keep my next manderin alive longer then!!!! yay

surfzone · 09-23-2008, 06:44 PM

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Wow, seems like your onto something here!!! I guess this is more possible than what previously people had thought. if i may ask what other fish have you successfully bred? thanks and Great thread!!

Jake

Honestly out side of freshwater this is the first marine species that i have had any luck with. my cardinals swallow the eggs and my clowns seem to be on a much longer love strike than the mandarins went on

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my only question is what day is metsmorphisis? are you going to get your babies to eat flake and brine and all the other prepared foods?

Metamorphosis hits around day 16 to day 30 depending on feed according to Matthew Wittenrich

jski711 · 09-23-2008, 07:39 PM

Well I'd say congrats on what you've already accomplished!! I'm just trying to get my S. Splendidus to start spawning for me. What are you feeding mandarins? Some info on tank conditions might be helpful to me. Thanks and great job!!!

Jake

surfzone · 09-23-2008, 08:55 PM

I have a 120 reef with two 6 x6.5 bins full of live rock rubble hidden in the rock work for pods to reproduce. I had the male first and added the female a few months later. The female is noticably smaller than the male and this helps in pairing the two. I also noticed that both fish where taking frozen brine and mysid shrimp so i put a baby food jar in the tank and put frozen foods in there for the mandarins to eat spawning occured about a month after the introduction of the female (July)and i didn't really try to raise these fish until this month. I don't feel like i'm doing anything out of teh ordenary when it comes to keeping these fish other than the fact that it's a large system and i make sure that they get fed.

bratyboy2 · 09-24-2008, 01:14 AM

im jealous....anyone else? lol

surfzone · 09-24-2008, 03:54 PM

Day 9 and everyone is looking fat still i hope i get settlement by the 1st but it could be longer.

prow · 09-24-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jski711

I guess this is more possible than what previously people had thought.
Jake

its has been know you can bred them. its just the cost to do so prevents competing against the easily found/caught ones. to pay for the costs involed in breeding them the price would quadruped++...you as the customer are much more likely to buy the much cheaper wild caught ones.

that doesnt take anything away from surfzone's skills........i really hope they reach fish hood. if they do i want to get inline right now to buy one from ya

you can inflate the cost some to help support your efforts

jski711 · 09-24-2008, 04:51 PM

Well maybe some people but not me. I would gladly pay the price for a captive raised fish anyday of the week. I have no experiance breeding fish but I know how much work is involved. All the fish I do buy I try and get captive bred. The sooner people in this hobby realize the importance of captive bred fish the better off we and our beautiful marine life will be.

Jake

Varga · 09-24-2008, 04:59 PM

awesome job man. this also gives you a chance to train them to eat dead foods at a young age.

surfzone · 09-24-2008, 07:09 PM

I hope i canget to fishood it will be much simpler to wean them to prepared foods young than it would be when they are adults. The color on the juvinal fish take a few weeks to come in after they settle

Check out this thread on MOFIB about the Green Mandarin Breeding. It's become my Bible for my Spotteds.

Marine Ornamental Fish & Invert Breeders Association :: View topic - BC2008 - Mandarin - Witt - I'm in the game!

09-23-2008, 03:38 PM	#31 (permalink)
jski711 Torch coral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NW Burbs of Chicago Posts: 571 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Here I go The Spotted Manderin Wow, seems like your onto something here!!! I guess this is more possible than what previously people had thought. if i may ask what other fish have you successfully bred? thanks and Great thread!! Jake

09-23-2008, 04:39 PM	#33 (permalink)
jski711 Torch coral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NW Burbs of Chicago Posts: 571 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Here I go The Spotted Manderin You really want to stay away from brine shrimp unless ur using it to train onto other foods. Brine has very little nutritional value. Im sure he will be training all other foods. Jake

09-23-2008, 04:54 PM	#35 (permalink)
jski711 Torch coral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NW Burbs of Chicago Posts: 571 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Here I go The Spotted Manderin Sure look at the ingrediants in rods food. He puts all sorts of good stuff like that in his food. Yes mysid is MUCH better!

09-23-2008, 07:39 PM	#38 (permalink)
jski711 Torch coral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NW Burbs of Chicago Posts: 571 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Here I go The Spotted Manderin Well I'd say congrats on what you've already accomplished!! I'm just trying to get my S. Splendidus to start spawning for me. What are you feeding mandarins? Some info on tank conditions might be helpful to me. Thanks and great job!!! Jake

09-23-2008, 08:55 PM	#39 (permalink)
surfzone Sea Pen Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Charleston, S. Carolina Posts: 341 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Here I go The Spotted Manderin I have a 120 reef with two 6 x6.5 bins full of live rock rubble hidden in the rock work for pods to reproduce. I had the male first and added the female a few months later. The female is noticably smaller than the male and this helps in pairing the two. I also noticed that both fish where taking frozen brine and mysid shrimp so i put a baby food jar in the tank and put frozen foods in there for the mandarins to eat spawning occured about a month after the introduction of the female (July)and i didn't really try to raise these fish until this month. I don't feel like i'm doing anything out of teh ordenary when it comes to keeping these fish other than the fact that it's a large system and i make sure that they get fed. __________________ My Tank and its Happenings Surfzone's 120 Cube - Reef Sanctuaryhttp://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-120-cube.html

09-24-2008, 03:54 PM	#41 (permalink)
surfzone Sea Pen Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Charleston, S. Carolina Posts: 341 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Here I go The Spotted Manderin Day 9 and everyone is looking fat still i hope i get settlement by the 1st but it could be longer. __________________ My Tank and its Happenings Surfzone's 120 Cube - Reef Sanctuaryhttp://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-120-cube.html

09-24-2008, 04:51 PM	#43 (permalink)
jski711 Torch coral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: NW Burbs of Chicago Posts: 571 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Here I go The Spotted Manderin Well maybe some people but not me. I would gladly pay the price for a captive raised fish anyday of the week. I have no experiance breeding fish but I know how much work is involved. All the fish I do buy I try and get captive bred. The sooner people in this hobby realize the importance of captive bred fish the better off we and our beautiful marine life will be. Jake

09-24-2008, 04:59 PM	#44 (permalink)
Varga Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,355 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Here I go The Spotted Manderin awesome job man. this also gives you a chance to train them to eat dead foods at a young age. __________________ Varga's Cube http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...on-cube-5.html

09-24-2008, 07:09 PM	#45 (permalink)
surfzone Sea Pen Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Charleston, S. Carolina Posts: 341 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Here I go The Spotted Manderin I hope i canget to fishood it will be much simpler to wean them to prepared foods young than it would be when they are adults. The color on the juvinal fish take a few weeks to come in after they settle Check out this thread on MOFIB about the Green Mandarin Breeding. It's become my Bible for my Spotteds. Marine Ornamental Fish & Invert Breeders Association :: View topic - BC2008 - Mandarin - Witt - I'm in the game! __________________ My Tank and its Happenings Surfzone's 120 Cube - Reef Sanctuaryhttp://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...-120-cube.html

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