female ocellaris not accepting male??????

jubbers · 07-15-2007, 07:40 PM

my female ocellaris is not accepting the male ocellaris clownfish. should i get another male? or what could i do to encourage the female to accept the male? my clowns are about a year old.

sasquatch · 07-15-2007, 08:42 PM

Describe "not accepting" the courtship of clowns is a very complex thing, what are you seeing that makes you think this? how sure are you of gender and species? try a little Barry White that usually does it lol

Craig Manoukian · 07-15-2007, 08:45 PM

What is the difference in their sizes and how long have they been paired up?

lcstorc · 07-15-2007, 09:59 PM

Are you sure you even have a pair? Were they added together? How long ago? Is there real agression or are they just not hanging out together?

jubbers · 07-15-2007, 10:23 PM

they have been together for 24 days. one is larger. i do not know if i have a pair that's why i am asking if i should get another smaller one.the larger one darts at the smaller one. and the smaller one either nips at the larger ones tail fin or darts off. please get back. do i have 2 females. i think they are juvenile still they are about a year old. but i want them to be a pair. if they aren't i want to get another smaller one to be sure i acheive a pair.please reply.

sasquatch · 07-15-2007, 10:40 PM

Oh wheres Elmo? I "think" at 1 year they are what they are, could be either or both the same, there is quite an involved courtship with clowns, and even if they accept each other or tolerate they may never become a "pair", maybe Woodstock can get Elmo to give us a little chat?

jubbers · 07-15-2007, 10:51 PM

i want to receive a pair so should i get another small male. because when they mature i want a pair.

caitrina · 07-15-2007, 11:27 PM

Ocellaris clownfish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BoomerD · 07-16-2007, 12:11 AM

The larger one will turn female in time. It's just the nature of the beast. If you add a 2nd male, you will most likely just cause the death of one clownfish.
Patience young Jedi...patience.

NOTHING happens fast in this hobby EXCEPT the bad things...

Craig Manoukian · 07-16-2007, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoomerD

NOTHING happens fast in this hobby EXCEPT the bad things...

Here here! Go slow and let it grow is the mantra!

caitrina · 07-16-2007, 12:42 AM

The link I posted in here for you tells you what Boomer said. The link doesn't have a whole lot of info, but there is some to start with and as everyone else says...Go Slow...Patience is the key.

prow · 07-16-2007, 03:02 AM

give it a week if the aggression has not slowed some then maybe start thinking of trading the small one in for a smaller one

. i have a pair and they still nip at eachother sometimes. so dont expect it to go away totally but your smaller one should submit in time, that is if it is still a juvenile or a male. i am thinking its a juvenile and fighting to become dominate sex, the female, normal stuff. after it finds out its not the dominate one it will turn into a male..

Triggerjay · 07-16-2007, 07:29 AM

I have a pair, they are about 4 years old, and go everywhere in the tank together. One is small (male) and the other one is large,.... they have never spawned to my knowledge..

Jason

Snelly40 · 07-16-2007, 09:39 AM

i have had a cinnamon clown for about a year and a half, obv female by now. But i wanted to pair her up, so i went to the LFS and added a small cinnamon clown, little aggression at first, then more, then more, then i moved them to my new tank, and they just didnt click. Well i added another juvenile, actually still had part of his 2nd white stripe, and they swam right up to each other, strarted bobbing up and down and shivering, and there was still an occasional nip, but now the female even lets the male sleep in the anemone, but its been about a month...dont give up yet, but if the one clown really gets beat up u might want to take it out and try again

Craig Manoukian · 07-17-2007, 01:31 AM

3 in a 90 gallon will work, but smaller tanks add to territorial aggression with too many fish

My Maroon Golds bonded within a week, but the female was three times as large as the male.

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jubbers Neon dottyback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NE Posts: 633 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: female ocellaris not accepting male?????? they have been together for 24 days. one is larger. i do not know if i have a pair that's why i am asking if i should get another smaller one.the larger one darts at the smaller one. and the smaller one either nips at the larger ones tail fin or darts off. please get back. do i have 2 females. i think they are juvenile still they are about a year old. but i want them to be a pair. if they aren't i want to get another smaller one to be sure i acheive a pair.please reply.

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sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,981 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: female ocellaris not accepting male?????? Oh wheres Elmo? I "think" at 1 year they are what they are, could be either or both the same, there is quite an involved courtship with clowns, and even if they accept each other or tolerate they may never become a "pair", maybe Woodstock can get Elmo to give us a little chat?

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caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,700 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: female ocellaris not accepting male?????? Ocellaris clownfish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html

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BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: female ocellaris not accepting male?????? The larger one will turn female in time. It's just the nature of the beast. If you add a 2nd male, you will most likely just cause the death of one clownfish. Patience young Jedi...patience. NOTHING happens fast in this hobby EXCEPT the bad things... __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

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caitrina Golden Moray Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere in Florida Posts: 2,700 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: female ocellaris not accepting male?????? The link I posted in here for you tells you what Boomer said. The link doesn't have a whole lot of info, but there is some to start with and as everyone else says...Go Slow...Patience is the key. __________________ A reef tank is like a potato chip, you can't have just one! Chronicles Cat's Healing Gift: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ling-gift.html Cat’s 90 Gallon Toy: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...allon-toy.html 24 G Mystery Pod: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...stery-pod.html

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prow Tridacna maxima Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 4,728 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: female ocellaris not accepting male?????? give it a week if the aggression has not slowed some then maybe start thinking of trading the small one in for a smaller one . i have a pair and they still nip at eachother sometimes. so dont expect it to go away totally but your smaller one should submit in time, that is if it is still a juvenile or a male. i am thinking its a juvenile and fighting to become dominate sex, the female, normal stuff. after it finds out its not the dominate one it will turn into a male.. __________________ "He who sees things grow from their beginnings shall have the finest view of them" ........Aristotle........ "The only difference between me and a madman is that I'm not mad." - Salvador Dali my chronicle........ http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...al-system.html my clamicle..........http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...my-tank-d.html

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Triggerjay Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Springfield MO Posts: 2,071 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: female ocellaris not accepting male?????? I have a pair, they are about 4 years old, and go everywhere in the tank together. One is small (male) and the other one is large,.... they have never spawned to my knowledge.. Jason __________________ The start of my journey: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...xperience.html My current journey: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ld-thread.html My clownfish breeding log: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ne-fishes.html

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Snelly40 Manta Ray Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 3,098 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: female ocellaris not accepting male?????? i have had a cinnamon clown for about a year and a half, obv female by now. But i wanted to pair her up, so i went to the LFS and added a small cinnamon clown, little aggression at first, then more, then more, then i moved them to my new tank, and they just didnt click. Well i added another juvenile, actually still had part of his 2nd white stripe, and they swam right up to each other, strarted bobbing up and down and shivering, and there was still an occasional nip, but now the female even lets the male sleep in the anemone, but its been about a month...dont give up yet, but if the one clown really gets beat up u might want to take it out and try again __________________ Snelly's 90gal Reef-O-Rama *Member-"Crabs Are Evil" Society*

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Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 19,012 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: female ocellaris not accepting male?????? 3 in a 90 gallon will work, but smaller tanks add to territorial aggression with too many fish My Maroon Golds bonded within a week, but the female was three times as large as the male. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

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