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Old 11-04-2009, 02:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Claic's 29 Gal. First Timer Tank - Please give me advice!

Hi,

I am new to this hobby and would like to say hello to everyone on this board. Since i am a newbie I thought it would be a good idea to start my own thread up so I can ask any questions I have and show updates of my tank all in the same place.

I have an Eclipse hood with 2 T8 florescent bulbs and the filter is an Eclipse with a Bio-Wheel. I also just purchased one Power Head that you can see below in the pics.

Also, the window behind my tank will not cause any problems with it. There is a patio that is at least 10 foot long and I live on the fourth floor of my apartment complex. Also there is a huge hill right behind this building blocking the sun from getting in anymore so I should be fine.

Well this is my setup at exactly two weeks today.













My biggest question is why haven't I hit my diatom bloom that everyone says comes when going through your first cycle? I mean I should be half way there correct? So why no change execpt my Ammonia levels are increasing slightly with everything else staying zero. I just got a bottle of Purple Up and added some today so hopefully that helps to bring on the awesome coralline algae. Anyway like I said as of now I really would just like to know why I am not getting any red algae blooms or anything for that matter changing in my tank.

Also, I forgot to put a background on the back and sides of my tank. Is this still possible to do?

Thanks!
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Claic's 29 Gal. First Timer Tank - Please give me advice!

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#1 - purple up, get rid of it
i used it daily for 2 weeks, massive problems. throw it out, you already threw the money away....

#2, what have you used to start the cycle? anything? or just the die off from the LR?
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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#1 - purple up, get rid of it
i used it daily for 2 weeks, massive problems. throw it out, you already threw the money away....

#2, what have you used to start the cycle? anything? or just the die off from the LR?
I also put in some Live Sand along with the live rock. What does the purple up do to your tank?

Can I add a blue background to my tank now or is it too late?
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Claic's 29 Gal. First Timer Tank - Please give me advice!

Welcome.. I too am a newbie ... maybe just a couple of weeks ahead of you. You'll get lots of great help and advice on this forum.

I can't comment on the "purple-up". I've seen it, but I don't know anything about it.

As far as I know, you can add a background to your tank at any time. I just bought the colored film at the LFS (local fish store) and taped it on the outside of the back of the tank. There may be a better way to do this, but I was fairly happy with the result. Most of the film at the LFS is two sided. Mine is black on one side and blue on the other. I used the black side, but I'm thinking of trying the blue to see how it looks.

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Welcome.. I too am a newbie ... maybe just a couple of weeks ahead of you. You'll get lots of great help and advice on this forum.

I can't comment on the "purple-up". I've seen it, but I don't know anything about it.

As far as I know, you can add a background to your tank at any time. I just bought the colored film at the LFS (local fish store) and taped it on the outside of the back of the tank. There may be a better way to do this, but I was fairly happy with the result. Most of the film at the LFS is two sided. Mine is black on one side and blue on the other. I used the black side, but I'm thinking of trying the blue to see how it looks.

Best of luck.

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Thanks very much,

For some reason I thought the background went in the tank ha ha.

Anyway, how long has your tank been set up? Got any critters yet?
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I'm having trouble testing for everything. I don't seem to have any Nitrites or Nitrates and I barely have any ammonia. Also I can't tell through my tests what my pH is, its way to close to tell you know?

Is there a better way to test?
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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A common practice which gets the cycle process started is to add a deli shrimp to the system. This provides a source of decaying organic matter which then results in ammonia. Once the ammonia is introduced the bacteria colonies necessary for turning the ammonia into nitrites and then the nitrites into nitrates can begin to build. Once the ammonia and nitrites go to zero, the tank should be ready for livestock, following a water change of course.
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A common practice which gets the cycle process started is to add a deli shrimp to the system. This provides a source of decaying organic matter which then results in ammonia. Once the ammonia is introduced the bacteria colonies necessary for turning the ammonia into nitrites and then the nitrites into nitrates can begin to build. Once the ammonia and nitrites go to zero, the tank should be ready for livestock, following a water change of course.
Alright I actually just put two Ocean Nutrition Formula One Marine Pellets in because this is one of the things I plan on feeding my fish. Should I leave it at that or add the shrimp?

Also see the long filter tube I have in my tank? Its god awful and ugly and I would like to know if it would hurt anything if I were to cut it shorter like by a lot and just have the filter be at the top?
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Adding the marine pellets will work as well. The only thing I don't like about using fish food is most processed fish foods contain phosphates used as a preservative. Algae feeds off of phosphates and I don't like adding anything that will help algae growth. A frozen, raw deli shrimp costs next to nothing and contains no preservatives.
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Adding the marine pellets will work as well. The only thing I don't like about using fish food is most processed fish foods contain phosphates used as a preservative. Algae feeds off of phosphates and I don't like adding anything that will help algae growth. A frozen, raw deli shrimp costs next to nothing and contains no preservatives.
So should I add in the shrimp also? Another thing my ammonia levels havent changed at all everything is still at zero and its been two weeks. Is something wrong?
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i would add a deli shrimp. if you want coral you'll need to get rid of those lights and get some t5s (best option for your tank IMO). a hob protein skimmer is very beneficial (IMO) and not necessary weekly water changes (wc) should work out nicely. also what kind of water are you using? (as in RO tap distilled RO/DI
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i would add a deli shrimp. if you want coral you'll need to get rid of those lights and get some t5s (best option for your tank IMO). a hob protein skimmer is very beneficial (IMO) and not necessary weekly water changes (wc) should work out nicely. also what kind of water are you using? (as in RO tap distilled RO/DI
The water I am using is just coming fro my sink and I a mixing in Instant ocean sea salt .

Where can I get this shrimp from and how big should it be?
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The key to success in this hobby is research. If I were you I would stop everything and begin reading through the forums. You will save a lot of time and money by reading before buying. The tap water you are using will cause nothing but problems.
Click on yungreefer2410 "my learning experience" two post above for a starter.
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The key to success in this hobby is research. If I were you I would stop everything and begin reading through the forums. You will save a lot of time and money by reading before buying. The tap water you are using will cause nothing but problems.
Click on yungreefer2410 "my learning experience" two post above for a starter.
I couldn't find the thread above you were talking about and I am a little confused as to why my water is going to not be ok? I also mixed in the AquaSafe solution to make the tap water alright is that not enough? I tap water isn't good then what should I be using?
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