Chaetos n Mangroves?

Mavjoy · 08-20-2008, 12:48 AM

Did i spell those right? What are the benefits of these two plants? Are they good in a refuge? Lights on? off? I have LR rubble in my refuge and wondering if these two are better and can be combine with my LR rubble.

Varga · 08-20-2008, 01:28 AM

Chaeto is the plant of choice for most refugiums. it does well under 24/7 lighting. they just eat nutrients that other wise would lead to algae issues. also offer a home for tiny creatures like pods and mysis shrimp

Mangroves Do not like 24/7 lighting, they need night time. they do very little for your tank but are fun to grow

Mavjoy · 08-20-2008, 02:13 AM

i see....mangroves are just for show? chaetos are better then but need lighting.
thanks for the info.

Mavjoy · 08-20-2008, 03:37 AM

I decided to put a Mini mite light above my fuge and took out my filter pad so the light can go through. Total of 18 watts(1 actinic and 1 daylight), i have LR rubble and planning to add some chaeto, is this too much light? Planning to leave the light on overnight(7-8 hours).

Varga · 08-20-2008, 04:08 AM

that should work, some people even have halides!!!!!!! I got mine under shop lights from lowe's

BigAl07 · 08-20-2008, 10:01 AM

Chaeto is a GREAT refugium Macro-Algae and normally is VERY hardy. Give it just about any light and don't forget to tumble/roll/turn it so that the bottom of the roll gets light too. It's a MUST have item for any refugium.

Mavjoy · 08-20-2008, 11:42 AM

Thanks for all the feedback BigAl and Co. (the location of pumps too) I really appreciate it. I'm stopping by my LFS to get some chaetos today and hopefully they have some.

sambrinar · 08-20-2008, 02:25 PM

I believe mangroves can turn sexual and put the nitrates etc they pull out back into the tank. they are neat looking though

Varga · 08-20-2008, 02:47 PM

mangroves go sexual????!!! never heard that before....

turn chaeto? how often should I be doing that?

BigAl07 · 08-20-2008, 03:11 PM

Brenda are you sure about that/ I've never heard that about Mangroves but I've NOT heard everything yet...

sambrinar · 08-20-2008, 11:57 PM

It was in one of my thread, hang on I will find it, that is what scared me away from it. hang on I'll be back.......

BigJay · 08-21-2008, 12:01 AM

man what a bunch of conflicting information on mangroves. I thought mangroves were one of the best filter mediums available. Only that they take a little more care and more space then most people are willing to dedicate to them.
Don't have time to pull a bunch of links but this is from reefcleaners.org .

ReefCleaners.org - Natural Nitrate Reduction

sambrinar · 08-21-2008, 12:28 AM

What is the advantage of having mangroves in a reef tank?

Mangroves take the nutrients necessary for their growth from the aquarium water. This means that we have a means of exporting phosphates and nitrates. Macro algae do the same, but they easily set those nutrients free when they are eaten by fish or die and dissolve. With mangroves this is different, at least if the aquarist succeeds in preventing the mangrove leaves from falling into the water and dissolving there. While many mangrove species export excess salt by depositing it on the surface of their leaves for the rain to wash away, some mangrove species deposit excess salt inside of their oldest leaves, which then will turn yellow and drop down. This is a natural process, but in the reef tank we just have to make sure that the leaves will not dissolve in the aquarium water and release nutrients back into the aquarium water.

Mangroves in the Reef Aquarium

OK, I was wrong, anyway I can't find it. I think what I was thinking was the leaves droping in the tank. they DON'T go sexual. anyway the link above is great info on it. I was having such a hard time with algae, I think that I though I didn't need anything to make it worse so I stayed away.

Sorry about the confusion

, it's just the leaves you have to was off and removed. I sware I saw that somewhere. If I find it eventually I'll post it, but considering how hard I searched the web, it must be wrong info.

Mavjoy · 08-21-2008, 12:31 AM

I finally got some chaetos today for $5 a handful! Found a new LFS by my place and they had tons of it. Do you have to rinse it before you put in the refuge? Anyways, its too late, i already put it. Hehe.

Varga · 08-21-2008, 12:33 AM

no need to rinse, you are good to go

it probobly came with some baby mysis shrimp and a bunch of pods

08-20-2008, 12:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mavjoy Plate Coral Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: san jose ca. Posts: 799 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Chaetos n Mangroves? Did i spell those right? What are the benefits of these two plants? Are they good in a refuge? Lights on? off? I have LR rubble in my refuge and wondering if these two are better and can be combine with my LR rubble.

08-20-2008, 01:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
Varga Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,350 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? Chaeto is the plant of choice for most refugiums. it does well under 24/7 lighting. they just eat nutrients that other wise would lead to algae issues. also offer a home for tiny creatures like pods and mysis shrimp Mangroves Do not like 24/7 lighting, they need night time. they do very little for your tank but are fun to grow __________________ Varga's Cube http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...on-cube-5.html

08-20-2008, 02:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mavjoy Plate Coral Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: san jose ca. Posts: 799 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? i see....mangroves are just for show? chaetos are better then but need lighting. thanks for the info.

08-20-2008, 03:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mavjoy Plate Coral Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: san jose ca. Posts: 799 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? I decided to put a Mini mite light above my fuge and took out my filter pad so the light can go through. Total of 18 watts(1 actinic and 1 daylight), i have LR rubble and planning to add some chaeto, is this too much light? Planning to leave the light on overnight(7-8 hours).

08-20-2008, 04:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
Varga Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,350 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? that should work, some people even have halides!!!!!!! I got mine under shop lights from lowe's __________________ Varga's Cube http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...on-cube-5.html

08-20-2008, 10:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,298 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? Chaeto is a GREAT refugium Macro-Algae and normally is VERY hardy. Give it just about any light and don't forget to tumble/roll/turn it so that the bottom of the roll gets light too. It's a MUST have item for any refugium. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

08-20-2008, 11:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mavjoy Plate Coral Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: san jose ca. Posts: 799 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? Thanks for all the feedback BigAl and Co. (the location of pumps too) I really appreciate it. I'm stopping by my LFS to get some chaetos today and hopefully they have some.

08-20-2008, 02:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
sambrinar recovering overfeeder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,382 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? I believe mangroves can turn sexual and put the nitrates etc they pull out back into the tank. they are neat looking though __________________ Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music ~ George Carlin Original member of http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...eef-holic.html My addiction 75 gal glass http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ce-sanity.html

08-20-2008, 02:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Varga Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,350 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? mangroves go sexual????!!! never heard that before.... turn chaeto? how often should I be doing that? __________________ Varga's Cube http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...on-cube-5.html

08-20-2008, 03:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
BigAl07 Do I look as lost as I am Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 21,298 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? Brenda are you sure about that/ I've never heard that about Mangroves but I've NOT heard everything yet... __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ *Live Rock Rubble will do the SAME thing as Bio-Balls and is NOT a suitable replacement for BIO-BALLS in a Reef System! It's ALL gotta go!!* Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...currentNO3-((%WC.01)currentNO3)=finalNO3 (thanks Luukosian) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Gone but not forgotten BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

08-20-2008, 11:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
sambrinar recovering overfeeder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,382 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? It was in one of my thread, hang on I will find it, that is what scared me away from it. hang on I'll be back....... __________________ Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music ~ George Carlin Original member of http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...eef-holic.html My addiction 75 gal glass http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ce-sanity.html

08-21-2008, 12:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
BigJay Golden Moray Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,531 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? man what a bunch of conflicting information on mangroves. I thought mangroves were one of the best filter mediums available. Only that they take a little more care and more space then most people are willing to dedicate to them. Don't have time to pull a bunch of links but this is from reefcleaners.org . ReefCleaners.org - Natural Nitrate Reduction

08-21-2008, 12:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
sambrinar recovering overfeeder Join Date: May 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 6,382 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? What is the advantage of having mangroves in a reef tank? Mangroves take the nutrients necessary for their growth from the aquarium water. This means that we have a means of exporting phosphates and nitrates. Macro algae do the same, but they easily set those nutrients free when they are eaten by fish or die and dissolve. With mangroves this is different, at least if the aquarist succeeds in preventing the mangrove leaves from falling into the water and dissolving there. While many mangrove species export excess salt by depositing it on the surface of their leaves for the rain to wash away, some mangrove species deposit excess salt inside of their oldest leaves, which then will turn yellow and drop down. This is a natural process, but in the reef tank we just have to make sure that the leaves will not dissolve in the aquarium water and release nutrients back into the aquarium water. Mangroves in the Reef Aquarium OK, I was wrong, anyway I can't find it. I think what I was thinking was the leaves droping in the tank. they DON'T go sexual. anyway the link above is great info on it. I was having such a hard time with algae, I think that I though I didn't need anything to make it worse so I stayed away. Sorry about the confusion , it's just the leaves you have to was off and removed. I sware I saw that somewhere. If I find it eventually I'll post it, but considering how hard I searched the web, it must be wrong info. __________________ Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music ~ George Carlin Original member of http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...eef-holic.html My addiction 75 gal glass http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...ce-sanity.html

08-21-2008, 12:31 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mavjoy Plate Coral Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: san jose ca. Posts: 799 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? I finally got some chaetos today for $5 a handful! Found a new LFS by my place and they had tons of it. Do you have to rinse it before you put in the refuge? Anyways, its too late, i already put it. Hehe.

08-21-2008, 12:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
Varga Manta Ray Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,350 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Chaetos n Mangroves? no need to rinse, you are good to go it probobly came with some baby mysis shrimp and a bunch of pods __________________ Varga's Cube http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...on-cube-5.html

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