First Reef Tank first disaster - Page 2

Frankie · 04-22-2008, 11:48 PM

Looks like your getting a handle on this. Great advice everyone so far. RC calm down, lets not fly an airplane into this thread. RS is all about slow teaching also

Rcpilot · 04-23-2008, 12:37 AM

The message is sound. You just don't like the delivery.

Frankie · 04-23-2008, 07:57 AM

Exactly! There use to be a guy MontanaReefer. Tons of great reefing knowledge....

Craig Manoukian · 04-23-2008, 12:09 PM

Bummer that you suffered the losses and it's good your learning the ways of the force, go slow and let it grow. Keep us posted on how things improve over the next 6 to 8 weeks.

mps9506 · 04-24-2008, 10:31 PM

Glad you guys are on top of it

I'm slackin.

Emperor559 · 05-02-2008, 11:13 PM

Well the frogspawn has now croaked too.

fishnu · 05-02-2008, 11:31 PM

Sorry for your challenges. I'm sure you'll come back from it.

Craig Manoukian · 05-03-2008, 12:55 AM

Way bummer!

Emperor559 · 05-18-2008, 02:23 PM

Well it's been three weeks since my loss. Just wanted to give an update. Done one 30% water change and 2 10% water changes. Levels are stable. Snails are doing fine so far and the zoo's are growing a little. Cyano seems to be taking over the gravel to some degree. Still plan on doing weekly water changes so I can get the cyano under control. Haven't dosed anything at all per everyones recommendation. Bubble algae is taking over one of my rocks and little white serpent stars are everywhere. Pods are real active too. Doing a water change tonight so I will post my tests in a day or so. Thanks for the help again.

SJS · 05-18-2008, 02:35 PM

How's your lighting schedule?? I got rid of my cyano by primarily cutting back on the light for a few days. It's probably the easiest of the many ways to battle cyano and sometimes can make a great improvement. Also make sure those areas have good flow.
Also - bubble algae - I have some on a rock that I bought with xenia on it - another reason to quarantine everything - I took the entire rock out of my tank and picked the bubbles off...
Sounds like things are progressing realy well. There will be other challenges ahead, but you know where to come for advice!!

Tru2nr · 05-18-2008, 02:38 PM

sounds like things are turning around for you and im glad to hear that what is your ph i don't know if this was an oversight by some or whatnot but ur ph was below 8.0 which might have effected the frogspawn a bit the biggest thing to remember is the smaller the tank the harder it is when it comes to saltwater because if you accidently does a little too much of something theres no water to really dilute it in a 29 as there would be in say a 100gallon. your alk needs to be up just a bit but with the right ph raising agent that alk will come up with it as well.....and trust me i understand your struggles im not going to even get into what i delt with in my first reef tank which was a 10g with not a whole lot of knowledge and no patience...heck i still don't have patience and at times it gets me nowhere so best thing to do is not really get upset with the hobby keep us posted. also what kind of lights are you using and what is your photoperiod are you using timers? as it may play a role in the algae problems

Emperor559 · 05-18-2008, 03:50 PM

The photo period is actinics on at 10 whites on at 12 whites of at 8 and actinics off at 10. You think i should cut that back. The lights are pc's 36 watts each. Standard bio-cube bulbs. I have some halimeda starting to grow that I don't want to upset. Also the zoo's mushrooms and starpolyps are in there still will they mind it too much. I realize they are hardy but I just want to be sure. The ph got up to 8.1 and alk got to 10 last time I tested. The bubble algae rock I plan on taking out and cleaning with my next water change hopefully tonight. I have some grape caulerpa growing too that I might just leave for now but we'll see. I know it can get out of hand real quick too.

sasquatch · 05-18-2008, 04:23 PM

Well that all sounds healthy to me, another 5 or 6 months and you should be in the clear, we would like to see some pics in a Chronicle, this would give you a nice benchmark for later (hint hint)

lcstorc · 05-18-2008, 05:56 PM

Welccome to RS! Sounds like things are turning around.
My question at this point would be what is feeding the cyano and bubble algae? They both need nutrients to survive. Have you tested yoir water change water for nitrates and phosphates? Your tank may read at 0 but that is because the algae is eating it all.
Just something to think about.

vdituri · 05-19-2008, 03:03 PM

Can you post a picture of the frogspawn?

Sounds like you are back onto the right track.
Waterchange definitely.

04-22-2008, 11:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,105 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Looks like your getting a handle on this. Great advice everyone so far. RC calm down, lets not fly an airplane into this thread. RS is all about slow teaching also __________________ Click here to visit my thread: New Horizons Text Is a Poor Form Of Communication! If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

04-23-2008, 12:37 AM	#17 (permalink)
Rcpilot Has been struck by the ban stick Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Arvada, CO. Posts: 297 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster The message is sound. You just don't like the delivery.

04-23-2008, 07:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
Frankie Angel Girl's Daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 8,105 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Exactly! There use to be a guy MontanaReefer. Tons of great reefing knowledge.... __________________ Click here to visit my thread: New Horizons Text Is a Poor Form Of Communication! If we ignore the environment maybe it will just go away....

04-23-2008, 12:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,248 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Bummer that you suffered the losses and it's good your learning the ways of the force, go slow and let it grow. Keep us posted on how things improve over the next 6 to 8 weeks. __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

04-24-2008, 10:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
mps9506 They misunderestimated me Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 7,436 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Glad you guys are on top of it I'm slackin. __________________ Mike "The Bandwith Bandit" Help Build Reefpedia Premium Membership Available! Support Reef Sanctuary Sponsors

05-02-2008, 11:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
Emperor559 Bryozoan Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 43 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Well the frogspawn has now croaked too.

05-02-2008, 11:31 PM	#22 (permalink)
fishnu Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 998 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Sorry for your challenges. I'm sure you'll come back from it. __________________ *I'd rather be good slow than bad fast.* Fishnu, Lord of Fishes Mantis Shrimp Club My Tank Thread The Wisdom of Fishnu - Mistakes on the path. 75 Gal Refurbished and Refinished Dutch Aquariums System Tank drilled with 2 1.5" bulkheads and 30 Gal Sump / Refugium Combo; 90 Lbs Fiji LR; ASM G2; OR6500 Pump; 2 Koralia Nanos; 2 150W HQI 2 96W Actinics; Gamma 25w UV; Kent Maxxima Hi S 60GPD RO/DI. Amphiprion percula (OMEN); Sphaeramia nematoptera (CODY); stenopus hispidus (PIMP THE SHRIMP); Selected hermits and snails. Euphyllia divisa, Euphyllia glabrescens, Pink Acanthastrea (Lord?), Zoas, selected mushrooms (Rhodactis, Actinodiscus, Sarcophyton ...). Looking for mermaid.

05-03-2008, 12:55 AM	#23 (permalink)
Craig Manoukian Regular Guy Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Marina Del Ray, CA Posts: 18,248 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Way bummer! __________________ Currently tankless. 20 Gallon mini reef with mated pair of Maroon Clowns given to Rougiem! 80 gallon reef given to Rougiem/Wooster HS.

05-18-2008, 02:23 PM	#24 (permalink)
Emperor559 Bryozoan Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 43 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Well it's been three weeks since my loss. Just wanted to give an update. Done one 30% water change and 2 10% water changes. Levels are stable. Snails are doing fine so far and the zoo's are growing a little. Cyano seems to be taking over the gravel to some degree. Still plan on doing weekly water changes so I can get the cyano under control. Haven't dosed anything at all per everyones recommendation. Bubble algae is taking over one of my rocks and little white serpent stars are everywhere. Pods are real active too. Doing a water change tonight so I will post my tests in a day or so. Thanks for the help again.

05-18-2008, 02:35 PM	#25 (permalink)
SJS Achilles Tang Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SO CAL - Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 826 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster How's your lighting schedule?? I got rid of my cyano by primarily cutting back on the light for a few days. It's probably the easiest of the many ways to battle cyano and sometimes can make a great improvement. Also make sure those areas have good flow. Also - bubble algae - I have some on a rock that I bought with xenia on it - another reason to quarantine everything - I took the entire rock out of my tank and picked the bubbles off... Sounds like things are progressing realy well. There will be other challenges ahead, but you know where to come for advice!! __________________ Steph 300 gallon dt, 90 gallon fuge, 35 gallon fuge, 35 gallon sump, 4 Ecotech Vortechs, T-5 lights

05-18-2008, 02:38 PM	#26 (permalink)
Tru2nr Elegance coral Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,169 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster sounds like things are turning around for you and im glad to hear that what is your ph i don't know if this was an oversight by some or whatnot but ur ph was below 8.0 which might have effected the frogspawn a bit the biggest thing to remember is the smaller the tank the harder it is when it comes to saltwater because if you accidently does a little too much of something theres no water to really dilute it in a 29 as there would be in say a 100gallon. your alk needs to be up just a bit but with the right ph raising agent that alk will come up with it as well.....and trust me i understand your struggles im not going to even get into what i delt with in my first reef tank which was a 10g with not a whole lot of knowledge and no patience...heck i still don't have patience and at times it gets me nowhere so best thing to do is not really get upset with the hobby keep us posted. also what kind of lights are you using and what is your photoperiod are you using timers? as it may play a role in the algae problems __________________ My 55g Chronical of addiction... Mistakes Have been made in the past.....still trying to clean up from them in the present....mistakes will be made in the future.....so what do we do?...... we party until we make another mistake!!!! WARNING: Corals in Tank, Add Crabs at own risk

05-18-2008, 03:50 PM	#27 (permalink)
Emperor559 Bryozoan Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 43 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster The photo period is actinics on at 10 whites on at 12 whites of at 8 and actinics off at 10. You think i should cut that back. The lights are pc's 36 watts each. Standard bio-cube bulbs. I have some halimeda starting to grow that I don't want to upset. Also the zoo's mushrooms and starpolyps are in there still will they mind it too much. I realize they are hardy but I just want to be sure. The ph got up to 8.1 and alk got to 10 last time I tested. The bubble algae rock I plan on taking out and cleaning with my next water change hopefully tonight. I have some grape caulerpa growing too that I might just leave for now but we'll see. I know it can get out of hand real quick too.

05-18-2008, 04:23 PM	#28 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Well that all sounds healthy to me, another 5 or 6 months and you should be in the clear, we would like to see some pics in a Chronicle, this would give you a nice benchmark for later (hint hint) __________________ castawayreefers.com

05-18-2008, 05:56 PM	#29 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,008 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Welccome to RS! Sounds like things are turning around. My question at this point would be what is feeding the cyano and bubble algae? They both need nutrients to survive. Have you tested yoir water change water for nitrates and phosphates? Your tank may read at 0 but that is because the algae is eating it all. Just something to think about. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

05-19-2008, 03:03 PM	#30 (permalink)
vdituri Excellent Guesser :D Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 5,730 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: First Reef Tank first disaster Can you post a picture of the frogspawn? Sounds like you are back onto the right track. Waterchange definitely. __________________ Victor ----- People come into our lives for a reason, a season or a lifetime. When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be. Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship to an end. What we must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to move on.

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