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Old 03-04-2008, 08:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I would like to reopen the debate about using table shrimp or other fish scraps to enhance or speed up the cycle.In another thread where this was discussed I asked for someone to put a few links in about the subject and why people should do this,I didnt get any.So today I did a little research and googled tank cycling.To my suprise there must be hundreds of "how too"s" on the subject.I have to admit that after reading 12 of them I was quite bored.I did find one article that recomended using it when cycling the rock outside the tank,as in a tub before putting the rock in the tank.It said not to do this if cycling the rock in the tank.Ten made no mention of it at all.Here are some samples.
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I would say that the shrimp cycle theory is pure myth.The problem with it is that it has been a myth for so long that it gets creedance from longevity,not from basis in fact.If this was such a great thing to do for a tank and its cycle I feel it would be more widely known and mentioned in every article concerning the cycle.If anyone has any evidence aricles,data anything I would love to read it.

hey you found your own proof. this is a quote from your first link
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Ammonia: Ammonia (NH3) initially enters the system via biological waste. These wastes may come from fish poop or dead organisms which are decaying in the tank. These wastes mineralize into the compound ammonia. Ammonia is a very toxic compound. Bacteria which colonize rock and sand surfaces utilize ammonia as food and convert it into a new compound called nitrite. Ammonia should always measure zero in a fully cycled tank.
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LOL I just thought you made the original comment.
I wouldn't recommend it either. Last time I cycled a tank I did it with frozen mush that had gotten freezer burn.
Same thing. Decaying matter.
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I'm gonna steal that Scott.
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LOL I just thought you made the original comment.
I wouldn't recommend it either. Last time I cycled a tank I did it with frozen mush that had gotten freezer burn.
Same thing. Decaying matter.
Wish I had a NEW tank ready to cycle... I need to... never mind

I think I may have made a comment like that... imagine that
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It actually looks exactly like a guy I knew right after high school. Honest. He lived in his VW van with his dog named dog. His legal name was Rebelious Omegan One. The odd thing about the story is that it was in the mid 80s not the mid 60s.
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It actually looks exactly like a guy I knew right after high school. Honest. He lived in his VW van with his dog named dog. His legal name was Rebelious Omegan One. The odd thing about the story is that it was in the mid 80s not the mid 60s.
Sorry, I hung out with interresting people.
the 80's ROCKED! Those were the DAYS!
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It was actually PaulB who made the comment, he pee's on lots of stuff lol
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the 80's ROCKED! Those were the DAYS!
yeah the whole Mondana lacy bra wearing thing all teh girls did rocked! but then again that was the time when those that should not wear spandex did
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Leave it to SAS to know the origin of the pee comment. I was to lazy to look.

LOL I was just looking at old pics the other day. What did we think we were wearing? Come on Legg Warmers?
Wow I feel old.
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I think the 80's clothes are/were HOTTTTT!!
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i forgot, what was this thread about???
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