Reef Sanctuary
Become a Sponsor   Our Sponsors  

Welcome to the Reef Sanctuary forums.

We're a beginner-friendly Reef Aquarium community featuring saltwater fish tank discussion, reef aquarium supply reviews, free photo gallery and more!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to many of our features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! Want to check the place out first? Take a look at our Beginner's Guide for a quick tour of all the features we have to offer the marine aquarium hobbyist. If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

Go Back   Reef Sanctuary > Let's Get Acquainted > Just starting out (SW Beginners)
User Name
Password
Home Forums Photo Gallery Chat Product Reviews Live Coral Frags Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Just starting out (SW Beginners) New to the salt water hobby? Post your questions here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-26-2007, 09:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
ltipton
Tunicate
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4
Aquariums

Right now I'm trying to decide on which aquarium and stand to purchase. I'm completely new to this so I don't want things to get too complicated at first, so I want to start out with a few fish and some easy to care for corals. I do want the option to eventually get sps coral and clams, without having to replace everything.

I've been looking at the predrilled 75 gallon All Glass aquarium. Do you think this is an aquarium I will be happy with long term or is the another one that would be better? I don't really feel ready to get a custom drilled tank, since I'm a newbie.

Lisa
ltipton is offline   Reply With Quote
ReefSanctuary Sponsor
Old 12-26-2007, 09:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
ragvette
Ricordea
 
ragvette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lake Villa, IL
Posts: 183
Re: Aquariums

75gal is a great starter tank. I started with a 75gal tank when I get into reef aquariums. A built-in overflow makes things even better. The 65gal I have now has a built-in overflow and it's great.

You may want to take a look at a 90gal, it's basically the same width and length but it's a little taller/deeper. The only disadvantage to the 90gal is more of your arm is going to get wet.
ragvette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 08:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
boozeman
The CodFather ~
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: new york
Posts: 8,800

My ReefSpace
Add yours!
Re: Aquariums

there are a lot of nice 90's on RS seems like a very popular size
__________________
...and when I'm old and wise
little things mean little to me
like autumn winds they'll blow right through me
and someday, in the mist of time
when they ask you if you knew me
remember that you were a friend of mine
boozeman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 09:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
lcstorc
Sunshine Reefer
 
lcstorc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Cocoa Fl
Posts: 20,778

My ReefSpace
Add yours!
Re: Aquariums

Welcome to RS!

I love my Oceanic 90g Tech Tank. Plus it comes with Starfire glass which is super clear.
If you are planning tp start with the easy stuff first you will want to think about the lights you will eventually need for the clams and sps you plan eventually. I would say the same about a protein skimmer.
These are two important parts of the reef that people try to skimp on and pay for it later.
__________________
Peace
LYNN

You can't change the past but you can change how you view it.

A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash.

Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure
Lynn's 20g clown tank
Lynn's 90g of sunshine

Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.
In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08
lcstorc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 10:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
tbittner
Watch this Ma!
 
tbittner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 5,562

My ReefSpace
Add yours!
Re: Aquariums

A larger tank isn't any more work to take care of but it will add to the startup cost. You'll need a good bit more live rock for one thing. In the long run, I really believe you'll be happier with a bigger tank though.

Oh yeah! Welcome to RS!
__________________
Terry

150g predator tank full of killers. Soon to be upgraded to a 360g.

450g reef

300g sump.
tbittner is offline   Reply With Quote
ReefSanctuary Sponsor
Old 12-27-2007, 10:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
BigAl07
Reef Addict (hopeless)
 
BigAl07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Waynesville, North Carolina
Posts: 12,661

My ReefSpace
Add yours!
Re: Aquariums

Yeah I really like my 90g tank. Honestly I think "If" I were to do it again I would probably opt to move up to the 120 which is the same except slightly deeper front to back. It was literally only a few dollars more than my 90. The good thing about the 75/90/120 is they are all the same 4' width which makes buying lights, covers and stands easy to do.

Be sure and plan "long term" for the tank. Like Lynn suggested go ahead and get the lights and filtration system you "might" need so that you don't have to replace (gets VERY expensive) later on. It's worth waiting and saving a little bit longer up front than buying everything twice (or THREE times like I did with my lights).

Good luck and Happy Reefing
__________________
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º>

Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change.
Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%)
This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%.

Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!

Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here)
Big Al's 10g
Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked
BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle
Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef
BigAl07 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 10:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
wonderloss
Frequent lurker
 
wonderloss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 456
Re: Aquariums

A larger tank means higher startup cost, and higher maintenance cost. You need more light, more water movement (either larger or more pumps/powerheads), and more water for water changes.

However, larger tanks mean more options. Larger tanks allow you to keep more or larger fish. There is more room for corals. Also, a deeper tank means greater variety in light level from bottom to top.

You should definitely get a built-in overflow. I also second the advice to plan your equipment with your longterm stocking plan in mind.
__________________
Rick
My 75 gallon

Quote:
Originally Posted by BEELZEBOB
moral of the story, dont wiggle things at cane spiders
wonderloss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 10:15 AM   #8 (permalink)
framerguy
Manta Ray
 
framerguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Mount Airy, Ga
Posts: 3,651

My ReefSpace
Add yours!
Re: Aquariums

Welcome to RS!

I'm with Terry on the bigger the easier. If you have the space for it go with at least the 90 or a 120. I have a 75g now and WISH WISH WISH I had gone larger to begin with! There's just so much more you can do (and more corals to buy!)
__________________
___________________________________
Greg
All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire

"Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy)

Still Workin' on it! 375gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc...

chronicles-akwareum

framerguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 10:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
Octoman
Majano Slayer
 
Octoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Savannah, GA
Posts: 1,652
Re: Aquariums

I fully agree that you should go as big as your budget allows. Just make sure you plan for the added live rock, lighting, skimmer, etc... as mentioned above. But, also take into consideration whether or not you are going to have to move the tank. I rent and move around a lot, so I decided to stick with a 55 that will be easier to move in a couple years...
__________________
Mark

My tank thread...
Octoman's 55 gallons of euphoria

Tank build...
55 Construction
Octoman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 12:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
ltipton
Tunicate
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4
Re: Aquariums

I have been debating with myself about what size to get. My husband has a 90 gallon FOWLR. He thinks I should get a small set up. (He started with a 55.) Something like a 55 gallon kit from walmart or a Red Sea Max. My concern is that I won't be happy with the smaller setup and then will just end up rebuying everything.

Lisa
ltipton is offline   Reply With Quote
ReefSanctuary Sponsor
Old 12-27-2007, 01:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
lcstorc
Sunshine Reefer
 
lcstorc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Cocoa Fl
Posts: 20,778

My ReefSpace
Add yours!
Re: Aquariums

I would stay away from the all in one systems. You always want to upgrade something at some time.
__________________
Peace
LYNN

You can't change the past but you can change how you view it.

A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash.

Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure
Lynn's 20g clown tank
Lynn's 90g of sunshine

Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back.
In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08
lcstorc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 01:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
jupiter
Bryozoan
 
jupiter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 54
Re: Aquariums

Quote:
Originally Posted by ltipton View Post
I have been debating with myself about what size to get. My husband has a 90 gallon FOWLR. He thinks I should get a small set up. (He started with a 55.) Something like a 55 gallon kit from walmart or a Red Sea Max. My concern is that I won't be happy with the smaller setup and then will just end up rebuying everything.

Lisa
You probably won't like the 55 because it is too narrow to keep a lot of the good stuff. I'm repeating a lot of what others have said but one thing you should consider is lighting. MH lamps should be placed 2 feet apart. So a 4' tank will need two, a 6' tank will need 3, but a 5' tank needs, hmm, 2? 3? I'd stay with even sized tanks rather than 3' or 5'.

You want a tank that is no more than 24" deep to accommodate a 250 W MH lamp.

You want a wide tank. Wider tanks give you more options wrt corals; maybe 18".

So I would recommend a tank that is close to 48" x 18" x 24". Good sizes are the 90, 75 and the 120. Since the difference is just height, I'd go with the 90 if you have the money.

If you want bigger, remember the MH rule and get a tank 2' wider but no more than 24" deep.

Something else to think about, you WILL upgrade. Everyone does So just get a tank that will make you happy now. I was never happy until I bought a 5' 110 gallon and that kept me satisfied for 4 years. 4 years is like an eternity in reef-keeping years. The lighting issue was a pain though - either too bright or too dim depending on the number of lamps.

BTW, this is just "my guide". It's the way I choose tanks so it's isn't a "reef-keeping rule" or something
Also I used MH in this post because I think that is what most reef keepers aim for wrt lighting.
__________________
jupiter
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jupiter View Post
2) I am arrogant and don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Witfull View Post
ive known Jupiter for a long time...

#2 applies~

Last edited by jupiter : 12-27-2007 at 01:32 PM. Reason: missed a tank
jupiter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2007, 03:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
BigAl07
Reef Addict (hopeless)
 
BigAl07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Waynesville, North Carolina
Posts: 12,661

My ReefSpace
Add yours!
Re: Aquariums

Excellent advice jupiter. Very good points. I just want to say 48" x 24" x 24" is a GREAT size tank and it looks well proportioned from all sides. That's a 120 by the way *S*
__________________
><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º>

Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change.
Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%)
This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%.

Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!

Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here)
Big Al's 10g
Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked
BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle
Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef
BigAl07 is online now   Reply With Quote
ReefSanctuary Sponsor
Reply

  Reef Sanctuary > Let's Get Acquainted > Just starting out (SW Beginners)



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8
©2003-2007 Centropyge Productions LLC
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=


Page generated in 0.20221 seconds with 11 queries

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158