Sump Question

Rep. Day · 09-19-2007, 07:33 PM

OK....I have a 55 gal. with no sump. I am about to buy a 110 gal that is pre-drilled for overflows. How do I go about setting up a sump, what all do I need, etc...? I have no idea how to get one set up. Any suggestions out there?

Thanks as always,
Dave

sasquatch · 09-19-2007, 07:47 PM

can you use the 55? that would do for a sump and a fuge

lcstorc · 09-19-2007, 07:48 PM

Well pre-drilled is step one. Next you need a tank to use for the sump. The bigger the better.
Then check out our DIY section for various plans and melevsreef.com.
Lots of plans both places and it is an easy diy as long as you plan carefully.

framerguy · 09-19-2007, 08:26 PM

Yeah, your 55 is your sump. Partition off an area for the fuge with plexi, maybe 1/3. the rest is used for baffles, skimmer, filter sock, etc. See above for sites to check.

DrHank · 09-19-2007, 09:20 PM

Agree except for the plexi. Use glass and GE Silicone I to mount the baffles.

BigAl07 · 09-19-2007, 09:55 PM

Doc is right about that. Glass tank = Glass baffles acrylic tank = acrylic baffles. Some people never have any problems with differing materials but on the other hand some people have had their sump/fuge mysteriously shatter. This comes from the fact that glass and acrylic expand/contract differently and the baffles being in the middle of a sheet of glass can put un-due stress right where it can't be dealt with. Result = Cracked/Broken glass and water water EVERYWHERE!

Allen

kinghokus420 · 09-19-2007, 11:45 PM

this is a 45g that is on my 135. it works great! fuge/return/skimmer/inlet. the short baffle is to direct more bubbles to the surface so i dont get too many micro bubbles in the display.

goldenmean · 09-20-2007, 12:35 AM

Hey Dave
Check out this site about sumps.
Everything you ever wanted to know . . . . . Melevsreef.com | Acrylic Sumps & Refugiums

Rep. Day · 09-20-2007, 07:36 AM

Thank you everyone....VERY helpful.

Dave

Rep. Day · 09-21-2007, 01:37 PM

OK....I am missing something that I am sure is pretty obvious. If the electric goes out, what keeps all of the water from draining from the main tank? I am assuming the outlet is close to the top? If that is the case, does that mean the sump is only about half full so it could contain the water that might flow to it in a power outage?

Also, does the size of pump control how fast the water leaves the main tank or is that gravity/siphon (sp?)? I know it would control how fast it is pumped back in the main tank from the sump, but how is the rate of flow from the main tank to the sump controlled....so outgoing water won't run faster then it is pumping back in?

I am sorry for the dumb question, I am just having a hard time getting this one.

Thanks,
Dave

09-19-2007, 07:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rep. Day Midas Blenny Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sump Question OK....I have a 55 gal. with no sump. I am about to buy a 110 gal that is pre-drilled for overflows. How do I go about setting up a sump, what all do I need, etc...? I have no idea how to get one set up. Any suggestions out there? Thanks as always, Dave __________________ 55 gal. Remora Pro Skimmer w/Mag 350 pump Magnum 350 Canister Filter 200 w heater Maxi Jet 1200 Power Head (rotating) Maxi Jet 900 Power Head (rotating) Temp. stable at 79.5 Salt stable at 1.023 75lb Live Rock, 1 Banded Shrimp, 3 Yellow Tailed Damsiels, 2 O. Clowns, numerous crabs and snails, 1 sandsifter starfish. Looking for a bigger tank. Pretty new at this.

09-19-2007, 07:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,917 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question can you use the 55? that would do for a sump and a fuge __________________ castawayreefers.com

09-19-2007, 07:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,889 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question Well pre-drilled is step one. Next you need a tank to use for the sump. The bigger the better. Then check out our DIY section for various plans and melevsreef.com. Lots of plans both places and it is an easy diy as long as you plan carefully. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

09-19-2007, 08:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
framerguy Manta Ray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mount Airy, Ga Posts: 3,660 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question Yeah, your 55 is your sump. Partition off an area for the fuge with plexi, maybe 1/3. the rest is used for baffles, skimmer, filter sock, etc. See above for sites to check. __________________ ___________________________________ Greg All time fav quote: "Now and then it's good to pause in our pursuit of happiness and just be happy."-Guillaume Apollinaire "Being happy can be as easy as deciding to be!"-Greg Kimsey (framerguy) Still Workin' on it! 375gDT built in wall, Gargantuan DIY Beckett Skimmer, 100g sump, Sequence Hammerhead closed loop, 75 gallon seagrass/mineral mud refugium, 55 gallon crushed coral/live rock refugium, 30 gallon DSB/ cheatomorpha refugium, algae turf scrubber, DIY calcium reactor, DIY kalkwasser mixer, DIY light system w/4x 250MH & 4x54w T5, etc, etc, etc... chronicles-akwareum

09-19-2007, 09:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
DrHank Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 2,284 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sump Question Agree except for the plexi. Use glass and GE Silicone I to mount the baffles. __________________ Doc Dr Hank's 210 Build: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nks-tanks.html

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BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 12,797 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question Doc is right about that. Glass tank = Glass baffles acrylic tank = acrylic baffles. Some people never have any problems with differing materials but on the other hand some people have had their sump/fuge mysteriously shatter. This comes from the fact that glass and acrylic expand/contract differently and the baffles being in the middle of a sheet of glass can put un-due stress right where it can't be dealt with. Result = Cracked/Broken glass and water water EVERYWHERE! Allen __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Nitrate (NO3) reduction is directly proportional to percentage of Water Change. Allen's home-made formula...(-NO3=WC%) This means if you change 50% of your total water volume (That's EVERYTHING) you'll get a net reduction of (NO3) somewhere around 50%. Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!! Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube Now in STORAGE and Dry-Docked BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef

09-19-2007, 11:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
kinghokus420 Scopas Tang Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: paradise ca.(northern) Posts: 444 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sump Question this is a 45g that is on my 135. it works great! fuge/return/skimmer/inlet. the short baffle is to direct more bubbles to the surface so i dont get too many micro bubbles in the display. __________________ josh Chico Reef Club chicoreefclub.org

09-20-2007, 12:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
goldenmean Beautiful Katamari Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,250 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sump Question Hey Dave Check out this site about sumps. Everything you ever wanted to know . . . . . Melevsreef.com \| Acrylic Sumps & Refugiums __________________ A 55g link in the GoldenChain My 2nd-QT-Wrasse My Second Quarantine Tank 2 (+) Year Retrospective of a 12g Nano Jeff What You Think Upon Grows... Have a Smooth Day!

09-20-2007, 07:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Rep. Day Midas Blenny Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sump Question Thank you everyone....VERY helpful. Dave __________________ 55 gal. Remora Pro Skimmer w/Mag 350 pump Magnum 350 Canister Filter 200 w heater Maxi Jet 1200 Power Head (rotating) Maxi Jet 900 Power Head (rotating) Temp. stable at 79.5 Salt stable at 1.023 75lb Live Rock, 1 Banded Shrimp, 3 Yellow Tailed Damsiels, 2 O. Clowns, numerous crabs and snails, 1 sandsifter starfish. Looking for a bigger tank. Pretty new at this.

09-21-2007, 01:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rep. Day Midas Blenny Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sump Question OK....I am missing something that I am sure is pretty obvious. If the electric goes out, what keeps all of the water from draining from the main tank? I am assuming the outlet is close to the top? If that is the case, does that mean the sump is only about half full so it could contain the water that might flow to it in a power outage? Also, does the size of pump control how fast the water leaves the main tank or is that gravity/siphon (sp?)? I know it would control how fast it is pumped back in the main tank from the sump, but how is the rate of flow from the main tank to the sump controlled....so outgoing water won't run faster then it is pumping back in? I am sorry for the dumb question, I am just having a hard time getting this one. Thanks, Dave __________________ 55 gal. Remora Pro Skimmer w/Mag 350 pump Magnum 350 Canister Filter 200 w heater Maxi Jet 1200 Power Head (rotating) Maxi Jet 900 Power Head (rotating) Temp. stable at 79.5 Salt stable at 1.023 75lb Live Rock, 1 Banded Shrimp, 3 Yellow Tailed Damsiels, 2 O. Clowns, numerous crabs and snails, 1 sandsifter starfish. Looking for a bigger tank. Pretty new at this.

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