Coral Beauty Question

Rep. Day · 09-04-2007, 07:59 AM

Well...now I can say I have had my first loss, sigh.

Question, yesterday my Coral Beauty seemed fine, doing what it always did, picking at the LR like crazy and swimming about.

This morning, it was dead. Water levels are all good, any ideas of what could have happened?

Dave

lcstorc · 09-04-2007, 08:10 AM

Sorry for the loss.
How long had she been in the tank?
Could have been cyanide poisoning but usually they become listless first with that.
If your params are good I have no other ideas.
Sorry.

Dentoid · 09-04-2007, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rep. Day

Well...now I can say I have had my first loss, sigh.

Question, yesterday my Coral Beauty seemed fine, doing what it always did, picking at the LR like crazy and swimming about.

This morning, it was dead. Water levels are all good, any ideas of what could have happened?

Dave

Dave, I'm sorry to hear of your loss, it's always hard to understand why fish just up and die. This is always hard to answer because it could be a multitude of things. Again, sorry for the loss of your little buddy!

Rep. Day · 09-04-2007, 08:31 AM

She had been in the tank about a month, probably a little longer. I know with freshwater, like you said, sometimes they just up and die. I didn't know if there was something specific I should have been watching for with this fish or not. Sounds like just one of those things.

Thanks,
Dave

BigAl07 · 09-04-2007, 08:35 AM

Sorry to hear about that Dave. My heart goes out to you. It doesn't really get any better after the first one. We develope a very special bond to each of our wet pets.

One thing I have learned over years of having wet-pets is that what may have seemed normal initially could have held some clues. Once you see things happen here and there you'll learn to pick up subtle signs of stress and problems. Did you notice any "gasping" or tendencies to stay near the top of the water? Sometimes this action can go unrecognized but can be an indication to some issues. I'm not saying that's what happened but sometimes it's small things that we over look that can signal a problem.

Good luck and hang in there. Unfortunately this is all part of the circle of life.

Sincerely,
Allen

Rep. Day · 09-04-2007, 07:47 PM

well, since I had such good luck, I ordered over the weekend a AURIGA BUTTERFLYFISH, but since I lost the Coral Beauty, I am now worried. The Butterflyfish is coming, I have no control over that at this point. My water is testing fine, is there anything I need to be watching for?

Thanks for all of your help.

Dave

P.S. I use mail order because of a lack of LFS, there are almost none and I have had a great experience with this one in the past.

Melanie · 09-04-2007, 07:51 PM

To save you some anxiety, you might consider starting a QT. I have a small 10 gal. that I keep new fish in for a min. of 2 weeks, more if they don't look healthy and eat well.

lcstorc · 09-04-2007, 07:52 PM

Best of luck with the new fish. If your parameters are in line then you are doing what you can.

Rep. Day · 09-04-2007, 07:54 PM

Melaine,

I will probably start that soon....actually, very soon. However, this fish is already ordered, so if anyone has some advice, I would appreciate it.

Yea, now I am learning...and I am going to do a QT. Even slow folks learn....lol.

Thanks,
Dave

Rep. Day · 09-04-2007, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcstorc

Best of luck with the new fish. If your parameters are in line then you are doing what you can.

Thank you! I appreciate it.

Dave

Dentoid · 09-04-2007, 07:55 PM

Dave this is a beautiful fish. I take it you are aware of its eating habits. They tend to eat invertebrates that we try to keep in the aquarium. Such as feather duster worms, coral polyps etc. They will also eat aiptsia, so if you have any of these pests, this butterfly is a good one. You may not be very successful with corals though. You should supplement its diet with Nori and frozen meaty foods.

Rep. Day · 09-04-2007, 07:59 PM

I have no corals, not that good yet. I was planning on suppleminting its diet with with frozen meaty foods.

Is there anything else I need to be aware of.

You know, I don't mind loosing the money as much as I do the beautiful fish. That is what saddened me about the Coral Beauty, what a wonderful fish and I loved watching it. Just don't want to make a habbit of it.

Thanks again to everyone.

Dave

Dentoid · 09-04-2007, 08:15 PM

I hear ya! It's never about the money. It's always disheartening to lose a life, even if it is a fish. Your tank is still new, give it some time. Some fish deaths are outside of our control. Remember, their are collectors, handlers and distributors that all manage these specimens before they get to us.

Reef tanks are like fine wines, they mellow and get better with age! The time will come when your tanks systems all harmonize and your tank will be spectacular.

Rep. Day · 09-04-2007, 08:16 PM

Thank you...very much.

Dave

DrHank · 09-04-2007, 10:06 PM

Dave, the key is getting it to eat. Everything else comes later. Have a variety of meaty foods (frozen is usually the best. I keep krill, mysis shrimp, and Ocean plankton cubes in the freezer. You may also want to get some brine shrimp and brine shrimp eggs (so you can hatch live food if you need to). These fish pick at the rocks in their natural environment, primarily for invertebrates, but also for vegetation. You may also want to have some Nori and a clip on hand.

Good luck!

09-04-2007, 07:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rep. Day Midas Blenny Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	Coral Beauty Question Well...now I can say I have had my first loss, sigh. Question, yesterday my Coral Beauty seemed fine, doing what it always did, picking at the LR like crazy and swimming about. This morning, it was dead. Water levels are all good, any ideas of what could have happened? Dave __________________ 55 gal. Remora Pro Skimmer w/Mag 350 pump Magnum 350 Canister Filter 200 w heater Maxi Jet 1200 Power Head (rotating) Maxi Jet 900 Power Head (rotating) Temp. stable at 79.5 Salt stable at 1.023 75lb Live Rock, 1 Banded Shrimp, 3 Yellow Tailed Damsiels, 2 O. Clowns, numerous crabs and snails, 1 sandsifter starfish. Looking for a bigger tank. Pretty new at this.

09-04-2007, 08:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 19,905 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Coral Beauty Question Sorry for the loss. How long had she been in the tank? Could have been cyanide poisoning but usually they become listless first with that. If your params are good I have no other ideas. Sorry. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

09-04-2007, 08:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rep. Day Midas Blenny Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Coral Beauty Question She had been in the tank about a month, probably a little longer. I know with freshwater, like you said, sometimes they just up and die. I didn't know if there was something specific I should have been watching for with this fish or not. Sounds like just one of those things. Thanks, Dave __________________ 55 gal. Remora Pro Skimmer w/Mag 350 pump Magnum 350 Canister Filter 200 w heater Maxi Jet 1200 Power Head (rotating) Maxi Jet 900 Power Head (rotating) Temp. stable at 79.5 Salt stable at 1.023 75lb Live Rock, 1 Banded Shrimp, 3 Yellow Tailed Damsiels, 2 O. Clowns, numerous crabs and snails, 1 sandsifter starfish. Looking for a bigger tank. Pretty new at this.

09-04-2007, 08:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
BigAl07 Reef Addict (hopeless) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Waynesville, North Carolina Posts: 11,448 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Coral Beauty Question Sorry to hear about that Dave. My heart goes out to you. It doesn't really get any better after the first one. We develope a very special bond to each of our wet pets. One thing I have learned over years of having wet-pets is that what may have seemed normal initially could have held some clues. Once you see things happen here and there you'll learn to pick up subtle signs of stress and problems. Did you notice any "gasping" or tendencies to stay near the top of the water? Sometimes this action can go unrecognized but can be an indication to some issues. I'm not saying that's what happened but sometimes it's small things that we over look that can signal a problem. Good luck and hang in there. Unfortunately this is all part of the circle of life. Sincerely, Allen __________________ ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. >((((º> Allen Allen's testimonial . . ."Let Me help you help YOURSELF" (Click Here) with a SW set up there is one basic fundamental rule that we ALL should follow *When in doubt... wait it out. This means take it slow and let the tank "develop" and don't rush it. Time is your friend Ask me about how to increase your REEF budget without going without FOOD!!* Big Al's 10g Julie's (BigAl's Gal) 6g NanoCube BigAl's Slow 90g Tank Chronicle Allens OFFICE 12g Nano-Reef Reef Balls & Cakes Debt Free & Change your Family Tree!!

09-04-2007, 07:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rep. Day Midas Blenny Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Coral Beauty Question well, since I had such good luck, I ordered over the weekend a AURIGA BUTTERFLYFISH, but since I lost the Coral Beauty, I am now worried. The Butterflyfish is coming, I have no control over that at this point. My water is testing fine, is there anything I need to be watching for? Thanks for all of your help. Dave P.S. I use mail order because of a lack of LFS, there are almost none and I have had a great experience with this one in the past. __________________ 55 gal. Remora Pro Skimmer w/Mag 350 pump Magnum 350 Canister Filter 200 w heater Maxi Jet 1200 Power Head (rotating) Maxi Jet 900 Power Head (rotating) Temp. stable at 79.5 Salt stable at 1.023 75lb Live Rock, 1 Banded Shrimp, 3 Yellow Tailed Damsiels, 2 O. Clowns, numerous crabs and snails, 1 sandsifter starfish. Looking for a bigger tank. Pretty new at this.

09-04-2007, 07:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Melanie Golden Moray Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 2,120 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Coral Beauty Question To save you some anxiety, you might consider starting a QT. I have a small 10 gal. that I keep new fish in for a min. of 2 weeks, more if they don't look healthy and eat well. __________________ My Reef Journey Latest Recap My Videos My Flickr Photos Pres. of Dork Club I love ScubaDrew and North East Coral! Read why HERE...

09-04-2007, 07:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 19,905 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Coral Beauty Question Best of luck with the new fish. If your parameters are in line then you are doing what you can. __________________ Peace LYNN You can't change the past but you can change how you view it. A reef tank is like a racecar. The faster you go the harder you crash. Lynn and Franks saltwater adventure Lynn's 20g clown tank Lynn's 90g of sunshine Every 60 seconds you spend upset is a minute of happiness you'll never get back. In Loving Memory Of Z 01/22/07 - 08/19/08

09-04-2007, 07:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rep. Day Midas Blenny Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Coral Beauty Question Melaine, I will probably start that soon....actually, very soon. However, this fish is already ordered, so if anyone has some advice, I would appreciate it. Yea, now I am learning...and I am going to do a QT. Even slow folks learn....lol. Thanks, Dave __________________ 55 gal. Remora Pro Skimmer w/Mag 350 pump Magnum 350 Canister Filter 200 w heater Maxi Jet 1200 Power Head (rotating) Maxi Jet 900 Power Head (rotating) Temp. stable at 79.5 Salt stable at 1.023 75lb Live Rock, 1 Banded Shrimp, 3 Yellow Tailed Damsiels, 2 O. Clowns, numerous crabs and snails, 1 sandsifter starfish. Looking for a bigger tank. Pretty new at this.

09-04-2007, 07:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,240 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Coral Beauty Question Dave this is a beautiful fish. I take it you are aware of its eating habits. They tend to eat invertebrates that we try to keep in the aquarium. Such as feather duster worms, coral polyps etc. They will also eat aiptsia, so if you have any of these pests, this butterfly is a good one. You may not be very successful with corals though. You should supplement its diet with Nori and frozen meaty foods. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

09-04-2007, 07:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Rep. Day Midas Blenny Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Coral Beauty Question I have no corals, not that good yet. I was planning on suppleminting its diet with with frozen meaty foods. Is there anything else I need to be aware of. You know, I don't mind loosing the money as much as I do the beautiful fish. That is what saddened me about the Coral Beauty, what a wonderful fish and I loved watching it. Just don't want to make a habbit of it. Thanks again to everyone. Dave __________________ 55 gal. Remora Pro Skimmer w/Mag 350 pump Magnum 350 Canister Filter 200 w heater Maxi Jet 1200 Power Head (rotating) Maxi Jet 900 Power Head (rotating) Temp. stable at 79.5 Salt stable at 1.023 75lb Live Rock, 1 Banded Shrimp, 3 Yellow Tailed Damsiels, 2 O. Clowns, numerous crabs and snails, 1 sandsifter starfish. Looking for a bigger tank. Pretty new at this.

09-04-2007, 08:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dentoid Over Achiever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 10,240 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Coral Beauty Question I hear ya! It's never about the money. It's always disheartening to lose a life, even if it is a fish. Your tank is still new, give it some time. Some fish deaths are outside of our control. Remember, their are collectors, handlers and distributors that all manage these specimens before they get to us. Reef tanks are like fine wines, they mellow and get better with age! The time will come when your tanks systems all harmonize and your tank will be spectacular. __________________ Scott Dentoid's Reeforama

09-04-2007, 08:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
Rep. Day Midas Blenny Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 120 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Coral Beauty Question Thank you...very much. Dave __________________ 55 gal. Remora Pro Skimmer w/Mag 350 pump Magnum 350 Canister Filter 200 w heater Maxi Jet 1200 Power Head (rotating) Maxi Jet 900 Power Head (rotating) Temp. stable at 79.5 Salt stable at 1.023 75lb Live Rock, 1 Banded Shrimp, 3 Yellow Tailed Damsiels, 2 O. Clowns, numerous crabs and snails, 1 sandsifter starfish. Looking for a bigger tank. Pretty new at this.

09-04-2007, 10:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
DrHank Golden Moray Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Crestview, FL Posts: 2,284 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Coral Beauty Question Dave, the key is getting it to eat. Everything else comes later. Have a variety of meaty foods (frozen is usually the best. I keep krill, mysis shrimp, and Ocean plankton cubes in the freezer. You may also want to get some brine shrimp and brine shrimp eggs (so you can hatch live food if you need to). These fish pick at the rocks in their natural environment, primarily for invertebrates, but also for vegetation. You may also want to have some Nori and a clip on hand. Good luck! __________________ Doc Dr Hank's 210 Build: http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/...nks-tanks.html

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