Check List - What is missing ?

inet-projects · 12-27-2006, 04:11 PM

Guys,

Apologies I live in Germany and I have been yearning for a Reef since I left England 10 Years ago, I managed to find a resonably priced shop today, and nearly understood what I am about to buy.

My take is to get the tank up and running Live Sand & Live Rock and then test etc to the correct levels.

Equipment Starter Check list. (All in Metric)

160x60x60 Tank drilled in 2 back corners

Stand for the above custom built to allow Skimmer to fit inside 160x60x80

Filter Sump 70/40/50

Thermometer

6x Ehiem Compact 1000 Pumps

1 x Newatt NJ 1700 for pump circulation

Heater

1x 150 Seaclone Protein Skimmer

HQI ALU Lighting System

PVC Plumming for the above.

Live Reef Sand Need to purchase this somewhere else

Live Rock, need to purchase this somewhere else.

What I am I missing in this shopping list to get me started ?

Thanks

Dave

BoomerD · 12-27-2006, 04:28 PM

Trying to convert that into US measure is way too much work for me now, so I'll just say that the Sea Clone skimmer is not a good one. Being in Germany, you have MUCH BETTER choices available to you. H&S and Deltec are the first two that come to mind...
DEFINITELY get a better skimmer. Your tank will thank you for it.

Gibeon · 12-27-2006, 04:33 PM

BoomerD, If those are centimeters, it's a 150 Gallon tank (give or take). (52"x24"x24")

Inet - Don't forget an RO/DI filter system for water change and top-off water.

inet-projects · 12-27-2006, 04:35 PM

BoomerD

Thanks, I had been looking at some of the remarks said about the Seaclone range.

Regards

Dave

inet-projects · 12-27-2006, 05:18 PM

Gibeon,

Thanks for that, but I understood that depends on the water quality in your area, I will check with the local shop he should be able to advise what the quality is like here in Munich.

Thanks

Dave

cheeks69 · 12-27-2006, 06:03 PM

Welcome to RS Dave !

Quote:

6x Ehiem Compact 1000 Pumps

1 x Newatt NJ 1700 for pump circulation

How many lts. per hour are both of these pumps ? I would recommend the Tunze stream for ciculation.

Quote:

HQI ALU Lighting System

How many HQI bulbs and what is the wattage does it have actinic lights for dusk/dawn effect ?

Quote:

it's a 150 Gallon tank (give or take). (52"x24"x24")

63x24x31

This is a tall tank I recommend at least 2-250w HQI's

sasquatch · 12-27-2006, 10:28 PM

Hi Dave and welcome to RS, live rock from several sources to ensure diversity, suger sand will be live the same day you add rock (save your money for a bubbleking LOL) we love foreign films so send us some pics, happy hunting Steve

BoomerD · 12-27-2006, 11:22 PM

Looks like we're using different calculators around here...I get 62.99X23.62X23.62. NOT allowing for wall thickness, that works out to 154.54 gallons.

So...2X250 watt MH would do a pretty good job, with a nicely lit center, and slightly dimmer ends. Nice for some of the corals that prefer less light.

Gibeon · 12-27-2006, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoomerD

Looks like we're using different calculators around here...I get 62.99X23.62X23.62.

Psst, BoomerD, it looks like we both need reading glasses... that last number it seems is eighty, not sixty. I could have sworn it was a 60...until I checked the 3rd time

inet-projects · 12-28-2006, 01:09 AM

Guys,

For confirmation the Tank Size is 160 x 60 x 60 cm which is 63x23.6x23.6 in inches.

I make that about 155 Gallons.

Regards

Dave

BoomerD · 12-28-2006, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibeon

Psst, BoomerD, it looks like we both need reading glasses... that last number it seems is eighty, not sixty. I could have sworn it was a 60...until I checked the 3rd time

Quote:

160x60x60 Tank drilled in 2 back corners

/me thinks Gib is looking at the stand dimensions...

inet-projects · 12-28-2006, 04:08 AM

Books back out again.....

The RO Units seem to have alot of wastage yet a couple of pre filters with the DI seem to do te trick and have no wastage.

Any comments on this ?

Regards

Dave

BoomerD · 12-28-2006, 04:48 AM

RO units DO waste a lot of water. Depending on the unit, the ratio can be 3:1 or 6:1 (waste

roduct water) If your water is good enough, (low in TDS, low in nitrates, phosphates, no nasty chemicals) then DI CAN work for you. You also have the option of the Kold-Steril units.
http://www.poly-bio-marine.com/
Basically, a chemical/mechanical filtration unit, that uses Poly Bio-Marine's Poly filters as it's media. Several of the local reefers use it with varying degrees of success, but many of them have made the switch to RO/DI because they get better water, inspite of the waste.

12-27-2006, 04:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
inet-projects Tunicate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11 View Gallery Karma Komment	Check List - What is missing ? Guys, Apologies I live in Germany and I have been yearning for a Reef since I left England 10 Years ago, I managed to find a resonably priced shop today, and nearly understood what I am about to buy. My take is to get the tank up and running Live Sand & Live Rock and then test etc to the correct levels. Equipment Starter Check list. (All in Metric) 160x60x60 Tank drilled in 2 back corners Stand for the above custom built to allow Skimmer to fit inside 160x60x80 Filter Sump 70/40/50 Thermometer 6x Ehiem Compact 1000 Pumps 1 x Newatt NJ 1700 for pump circulation Heater 1x 150 Seaclone Protein Skimmer HQI ALU Lighting System PVC Plumming for the above. Live Reef Sand Need to purchase this somewhere else Live Rock, need to purchase this somewhere else. What I am I missing in this shopping list to get me started ? Thanks Dave

12-27-2006, 04:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Check List - What is missing ? Trying to convert that into US measure is way too much work for me now, so I'll just say that the Sea Clone skimmer is not a good one. Being in Germany, you have MUCH BETTER choices available to you. H&S and Deltec are the first two that come to mind... DEFINITELY get a better skimmer. Your tank will thank you for it. __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

12-27-2006, 04:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gibeon Serpent Star Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 215 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Check List - What is missing ? BoomerD, If those are centimeters, it's a 150 Gallon tank (give or take). (52"x24"x24") Inet - Don't forget an RO/DI filter system for water change and top-off water.

12-27-2006, 04:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
inet-projects Tunicate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Check List - What is missing ? BoomerD Thanks, I had been looking at some of the remarks said about the Seaclone range. Regards Dave

12-27-2006, 05:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
inet-projects Tunicate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Check List - What is missing ? Gibeon, Thanks for that, but I understood that depends on the water quality in your area, I will check with the local shop he should be able to advise what the quality is like here in Munich. Thanks Dave

12-27-2006, 10:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
sasquatch Brunt of all Jokes~ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the very farthest west coast of canada Posts: 8,993 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Check List - What is missing ? Hi Dave and welcome to RS, live rock from several sources to ensure diversity, suger sand will be live the same day you add rock (save your money for a bubbleking LOL) we love foreign films so send us some pics, happy hunting Steve

12-27-2006, 11:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Check List - What is missing ? Looks like we're using different calculators around here...I get 62.99X23.62X23.62. NOT allowing for wall thickness, that works out to 154.54 gallons. So...2X250 watt MH would do a pretty good job, with a nicely lit center, and slightly dimmer ends. Nice for some of the corals that prefer less light. __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

12-28-2006, 01:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
inet-projects Tunicate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Check List - What is missing ? Guys, For confirmation the Tank Size is 160 x 60 x 60 cm which is 63x23.6x23.6 in inches. I make that about 155 Gallons. Regards Dave

12-28-2006, 04:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
inet-projects Tunicate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11 View Gallery Karma Komment	Ro/di Books back out again..... The RO Units seem to have alot of wastage yet a couple of pre filters with the DI seem to do te trick and have no wastage. Any comments on this ? Regards Dave

12-28-2006, 04:48 AM	#13 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,638 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Check List - What is missing ? RO units DO waste a lot of water. Depending on the unit, the ratio can be 3:1 or 6:1 (wasteroduct water) If your water is good enough, (low in TDS, low in nitrates, phosphates, no nasty chemicals) then DI CAN work for you. You also have the option of the Kold-Steril units. http://www.poly-bio-marine.com/ Basically, a chemical/mechanical filtration unit, that uses Poly Bio-Marine's Poly filters as it's media. Several of the local reefers use it with varying degrees of success, but many of them have made the switch to RO/DI because they get better water, inspite of the waste. __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

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