Sand and Crushed Coral

SmokeOneLV · 04-10-2006, 01:27 AM

Is it possible to use both LS and CC? one on each end of the tanks?

BoomerD · 04-10-2006, 04:56 AM

I suppose so, but I gotta ask why? Over time, any place where it meets, the sand will filter to the bottom, and the CC will end up on top. Crushed coral tends to trap lots of detritus, and makes your tank harder to keep clean. PLUS, if you have a true deep sand bed, (over 4" deep) it can help to reduce nitrates in your tank...Crushed coral won't do that.

SmokeOneLV · 04-10-2006, 07:25 AM

only reason i ask is because i just put this CC in, and hate to throw away $70 and spend $70 more, but if thats what i have to do thats what im going to do. Was just thinking that might look cool. I wanted to make a wall of live rock to hold back the CC on one small end of the tank and have most of the tank a nice sand bed. Keep the advice coming Since i still have no light im in no real big rush. Thanks

SmokeOneLV · 04-10-2006, 07:28 AM

One more question, How Fine of sand should i look to get? and need suggestions on how deep. Thanks

Woodstock · 04-10-2006, 08:22 AM

SmokeOne... if you want to keep the cc, be prepared to vacuum it thoroughly! It will trap detritus and could create nitrAtes galore if not kept clean. I would remove it....

As far as sand, I prefer the fine sugar sized aragonite.

KimPossible · 04-10-2006, 10:17 AM

SmokeOne, you are probably going to end up taking the CC out of your tank at some point. If it is easier to do it now...I would. Chalk the $70 up to a learning experience. psssst...I am currently removing my cc at 3-4 cups per waterchange. The incompatability of CC in a SW tank caught up to me even with a rigorous cleaning schedule.

ooooohhhh well.

Dragon Wrasse · 04-10-2006, 10:42 AM

Ditto on the sugar sized Aragonite.....

KeyserSoze · 04-10-2006, 11:22 AM

I'm another one of the CC that wish they didn't club. If cost is a factor, alot have mentioned Home Depot playsand.

lcstorc · 04-10-2006, 12:11 PM

Wow. That may be part of my nitrate problem. Right now I have about half and half live sand and CC.
KimPossible, how are you removing yours? Or do you just have the cc so you can just scoop it out?
Thanks for the help.

KimPossible · 04-10-2006, 12:14 PM

Just CC, so I scoop it out with a cup.

lcstorc · 04-10-2006, 12:16 PM

I would hate to lose all the live sand. I'll have to figure out a way to try to sift through a bit at a time and get rid of it slowly.
Yet another project.

Thanks

KimPossible · 04-10-2006, 12:18 PM

Sift?....in your tank? OOooofffff.... I would not recommend, where are all the nasties gonna go?

Woodstock · 04-10-2006, 01:11 PM

"Sift" out of tank or you'll end up with nasty soup water.

lcstorc · 04-10-2006, 04:04 PM

I was actually thinking of pulling out some of the mix into a container (probably during a water change) sifting the mix, let it settle and then add the sand back into the tank.
If anyone has a better idea I am open to suggestions.
I figured this wouldn't be any worse than adding new sand. Would it?
Thanks for the help.
Lynn

KimPossible · 04-10-2006, 05:03 PM

That sound good

I would use saltwater while sifting so you dont kill any benificial bacteria.

04-10-2006, 01:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
SmokeOneLV Tubeworm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 30 View Gallery Karma Komment	Sand and Crushed Coral Is it possible to use both LS and CC? one on each end of the tanks?

04-10-2006, 04:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
BoomerD Reef Shark Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 5,637 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral I suppose so, but I gotta ask why? Over time, any place where it meets, the sand will filter to the bottom, and the CC will end up on top. Crushed coral tends to trap lots of detritus, and makes your tank harder to keep clean. PLUS, if you have a true deep sand bed, (over 4" deep) it can help to reduce nitrates in your tank...Crushed coral won't do that. __________________ Intelligence is not knowing all the answers, but knowing where and how to find them! www.google.com

04-10-2006, 07:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
SmokeOneLV Tubeworm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 30 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral only reason i ask is because i just put this CC in, and hate to throw away $70 and spend $70 more, but if thats what i have to do thats what im going to do. Was just thinking that might look cool. I wanted to make a wall of live rock to hold back the CC on one small end of the tank and have most of the tank a nice sand bed. Keep the advice coming Since i still have no light im in no real big rush. Thanks

04-10-2006, 07:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
SmokeOneLV Tubeworm Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 30 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral One more question, How Fine of sand should i look to get? and need suggestions on how deep. Thanks

04-10-2006, 08:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,260 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral SmokeOne... if you want to keep the cc, be prepared to vacuum it thoroughly! It will trap detritus and could create nitrAtes galore if not kept clean. I would remove it.... As far as sand, I prefer the fine sugar sized aragonite. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My QT/Hospital Tank* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

04-10-2006, 10:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
KimPossible Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 2,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral SmokeOne, you are probably going to end up taking the CC out of your tank at some point. If it is easier to do it now...I would. Chalk the $70 up to a learning experience. psssst...I am currently removing my cc at 3-4 cups per waterchange. The incompatability of CC in a SW tank caught up to me even with a rigorous cleaning schedule. ooooohhhh well. __________________ Kim ~My environment is a product of myself~

04-10-2006, 10:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dragon Wrasse Harlequin Tuskfish Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 991 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral Ditto on the sugar sized Aragonite..... __________________ *Member "Crabs Are Evil" Society* "A wise man learns more from a foolish question, then a fool learns from a wise answer" - Bruce Lee _____________________________ 75 gal SeaClear II Reef Tank (softy tank) - Coralife 125 Super Skimmer - Little Giant 2-MDQX-SC - Angstrom 2537 UV 15W - HOB Refugium - Eheim Pro 2228 - Red Sea Wave Maker w/Maxi-Jet 600 (X4) - 100 lbs Live Sand (DSB) - 100 lbs Live Rock - 260W PC lighting - 470nm lunar lights (X15) - AquaController II Custom 75 gal Starphire glass tank (SPS/LPS tank) - Custom 24 gal Refugium - Tuzne Wave box - JBJ Chiller - 390W PC lighting - 175W MH (X2) - Knop Cal. Reactor - AquaController 3 Pro - Aqua C Skimmer - Phosban Reactor - 18W Turbo-twist UV sterilizer - Sump - Sony Computer 5 gal Nano Hospital Tank - Eheim 2213 - Red Sea Prizm Skimmer - Live sand - Live Rock - Built in Refugium - 36W PC lighting

04-10-2006, 11:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
KeyserSoze Midas Blenny Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 111 View Gallery Karma Komment	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral I'm another one of the CC that wish they didn't club. If cost is a factor, alot have mentioned Home Depot playsand.

04-10-2006, 12:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,003 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral Wow. That may be part of my nitrate problem. Right now I have about half and half live sand and CC. KimPossible, how are you removing yours? Or do you just have the cc so you can just scoop it out? Thanks for the help.

04-10-2006, 12:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
KimPossible Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 2,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral Just CC, so I scoop it out with a cup. __________________ Kim ~My environment is a product of myself~

04-10-2006, 12:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,003 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral I would hate to lose all the live sand. I'll have to figure out a way to try to sift through a bit at a time and get rid of it slowly. Yet another project. Thanks

04-10-2006, 12:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
KimPossible Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 2,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral Sift?....in your tank? OOooofffff.... I would not recommend, where are all the nasties gonna go? __________________ Kim ~My environment is a product of myself~

04-10-2006, 01:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Woodstock The Wand Geek was here. ;) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23,260 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral "Sift" out of tank or you'll end up with nasty soup water. __________________ ~Doni Marie~ *GOT ICH???* *My QT/Hospital Tank* ~120 Reef Chronicle ~ *~Breeding Picasso Clownfish~* "Energy and persistence conquer all things." Benjamin Franklin __________________________________________________ ______________________________________________ 120 mixed reef, dual Reeflux 10k 250 MHs, dual Geiseman Actinic T5s,Neptune AC III, ASM g3, 2x Korallia #3, Mag 9.5 return

04-10-2006, 04:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
lcstorc Sunshine Reefer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cocoa Fl Posts: 20,003 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral I was actually thinking of pulling out some of the mix into a container (probably during a water change) sifting the mix, let it settle and then add the sand back into the tank. If anyone has a better idea I am open to suggestions. I figured this wouldn't be any worse than adding new sand. Would it? Thanks for the help. Lynn

04-10-2006, 05:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
KimPossible Golden Moray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 2,549 View Gallery Karma Komment Add yours!	Re: Sand and Crushed Coral That sound good I would use saltwater while sifting so you dont kill any benificial bacteria. __________________ Kim ~My environment is a product of myself~

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